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TB63 wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 8:50 am

TheFrog wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 12:11 pm

TB63 wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 8:50 am

When I see these images, I wonder what is the actual amount of dead and seriously injured on both sides. 3 months of intense fighting must have taken its toll.

Kudos to the Ukrainian government coms department in controlling information so efficiently as well. Key in maintaining troops morale.

Jock42 wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 2:07 am Quite surprised this was allowed to air




EDIT: just seen I was beaten to it.

Russian armoured train blown up in occupied Ukraine - territorial defence

Ukrainian fighters have blown up an armoured train carrying Russian troops using an explosive device in the occupied southern city of Melitopol, the Ukrainian territorial defence force said today.

Russia's Ministry of Defence did not immediately respond to a written request for comment.

The city of Melitopol in the region of Zaporizhzhia lies in a belt of southern Ukrainian land that was occupied by Russian forces after they invaded on 24 February.

The Ukrainian territorial defence, the reservist branch of the armed forces, said an explosive device detonated directly under a carriage carrying servicemen.

Their statement, published on Facebook, did not elaborate on the extent of the damage.

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-news ... y-12541713

Russian occupation authorities announced plans to destroy the Azovstal Steel Plant and turn Mariupol into a resort city, depriving Russia of some of the most important economic benefits it hoped to reap by taking the city in the first place. Head of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR) Denis Pushilin stated that DNR authorities are planning to level Azovstal after completing its capture.[1] Azovstal was a major element of Mariupol’s economy before the war because of its unique function as a full-cycle metallurgical complex, the 10,000 jobs associated with production at the plant, the billions of dollars of foreign exchange earnings and taxes it generated, and its production output of 7,000 tons of steel, 6 million tons of iron, and 4.5 million tons of rolled metal, according to the Mariupol City Council.[2] Pushilin stated that the DNR intends to rebuild Mariupol to be a “resort city,” while admitting that 60% of the structures in Mariupol have been destroyed to the point where they cannot be rebuilt.[3] The announced plan to turn Mariupol into a center of tourism and leisure following the complete destruction of a major center of economic activity in Mariupol, is indicative of the damage that Russian troops have inflicted on themselves through the destruction of Mariupol. Russia does not need another resort town on the Black Sea. It does need the kind of hard currency that a plant like Azovstal had generated. This announcement epitomizes the kind of Pyrrhic victories Russian forces have won in Ukraine, to the extent that they have won victories at all.

https://understandingwar.org/background ... ent-may-18

Hellraiser wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 7:13 am I'm not sure if this is better or worse than digging trenches in Chornobyl.

laurent wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 5:44 am The Ukrainians are slowly retreating in the east near sloviansk this is getting worrying as the russians are destroying everything in their path.

Near Karkiv after some progress clearing the city subburbs things are stalled

South is stalled as well with minor advances by Russians

TheFrog wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 1:58 pm Are Ukraine forces at risk of being routed near Severodonetsk?

Flockwitt wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 3:57 pm

TheFrog wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 1:58 pm Are Ukraine forces at risk of being routed near Severodonetsk?

Certainly not a rout. They may have to retreat out of the salient though if they can't plug the gap in the front on the south.

TheFrog wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 6:55 pm

Flockwitt wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 3:57 pm

TheFrog wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 1:58 pm Are Ukraine forces at risk of being routed near Severodonetsk?

Certainly not a rout. They may have to retreat out of the salient though if they can't plug the gap in the front on the south.

Fingers crossed. At times I am concerned that the Ukrainians become euphoric and overstretched as they launch counter attacks.

I wish they had more missiles to hit Russians logistic routes ans bases, as well as missiles to force Russian ships out of range of their cities.

Russian firefighters have been battling a suspicious fire that broke out at the country’s aerospace institute, where many of their fighter jets have been developed.

The blaze, which broke out on Saturday, May 21, left thick black smoke in the sky over the Central Aerohydrodynamic Institute (CIA) in Zhukovsky, a facility involved in research on Russian warplanes.

The fire began at a power substation supplying the institute, 43 miles southeast of Moscow, as fears of a Ukrainian sabotage programme grow.

https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/05/21/s ... institute/

tabascoboy wrote: Sat May 21, 2022 3:46 pm Hello, hello - another suspicious fire in Rusland

Russian firefighters have been battling a suspicious fire that broke out at the country’s aerospace institute, where many of their fighter jets have been developed.

The blaze, which broke out on Saturday, May 21, left thick black smoke in the sky over the Central Aerohydrodynamic Institute (CIA) in Zhukovsky, a facility involved in research on Russian warplanes.

The fire began at a power substation supplying the institute, 43 miles southeast of Moscow, as fears of a Ukrainian sabotage programme grow.

https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/05/21/s ... institute/

tabascoboy wrote: Sun May 22, 2022 5:08 pm Russian paratrooper alleged to have been present in Bucha during the massacre identified from a photo published in an article in the NYT concerning the murder of 9 civilians. A native of Magadan in the far east of Siberia served with one of the two Air Assault Regiments charged with "cleaning up" the town. Even if he is not responsible personally, it gives hope that it's not impossible to find those who were - though getting any of them out of Russia to face war crimes charges might be.

fishfoodie wrote: Sun May 22, 2022 11:30 pm Or just do what Israel did after Munich, & say fuck the rules of civilized Nations; because we aren't dealing with a civilized Nation, & send out assassination squads, & kill the murdering/raping bastards, & worry about the legal implication,when & if anyone gives a damn !

fishfoodie wrote: Sun May 22, 2022 11:30 pm

tabascoboy wrote: Sun May 22, 2022 5:08 pm Russian paratrooper alleged to have been present in Bucha during the massacre identified from a photo published in an article in the NYT concerning the murder of 9 civilians. A native of Magadan in the far east of Siberia served with one of the two Air Assault Regiments charged with "cleaning up" the town. Even if he is not responsible personally, it gives hope that it's not impossible to find those who were - though getting any of them out of Russia to face war crimes charges might be.

Or just do what Israel did after Munich, & say fuck the rules of civilized Nations; because we aren't dealing with a civilized Nation, & send out assassination squads, & kill the murdering/raping bastards, & worry about the legal implication,when & if anyone gives a damn !

TheFrog wrote: Mon May 23, 2022 2:14 am

fishfoodie wrote: Sun May 22, 2022 11:30 pm

tabascoboy wrote: Sun May 22, 2022 5:08 pm Russian paratrooper alleged to have been present in Bucha during the massacre identified from a photo published in an article in the NYT concerning the murder of 9 civilians. A native of Magadan in the far east of Siberia served with one of the two Air Assault Regiments charged with "cleaning up" the town. Even if he is not responsible personally, it gives hope that it's not impossible to find those who were - though getting any of them out of Russia to face war crimes charges might be.

Or just do what Israel did after Munich, & say fuck the rules of civilized Nations; because we aren't dealing with a civilized Nation, & send out assassination squads, & kill the murdering/raping bastards, & worry about the legal implication,when & if anyone gives a damn !

Define a civilized nation....