NPR

ASMO wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:44 pm Wales will take a lot more from that than Scotland will...as mentioned earlier, this 6N is a 1 horse race...spacker fight for the minor places

sefton wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:45 pm The hope will have killed C69, well that and 6 pies and pork scratching at HT.

Tattie wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:49 pm Wow. Russell, our captain, admitting that they thought the game was won at 27-0, can Scotland get any more amateur hour?

We will get demolished in Dublin.

Big D wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:41 pm What an embarrassment of a second half.

Townsend either refuses to (very unlikely) or can't reign in the significant discipline problem. He has to clamp down on it. If it means sacking Tandy and getting a new defensive system in place or dropping players then so be it. Enough is enough

Tattie wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:49 pm Wow. Russell, our captain, admitting that they thought the game was won at 27-0, can Scotland get any more amateur hour?

We will get demolished in Dublin.

Slick wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:54 pm

Big D wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:41 pm What an embarrassment of a second half.

Townsend either refuses to (very unlikely) or can't reign in the significant discipline problem. He has to clamp down on it. If it means sacking Tandy and getting a new defensive system in place or dropping players then so be it. Enough is enough

Finns comments quite revealing, I think heads will roll. Turner was especially idiotic today.

Big D wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:44 pm

SaintK wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:41 pm My Scots wife saying they could still blow it
But then she does every match they’re in the lead

Yeah it's in our blood to be worried.

Just had someone on another board telling me Russell has had only 2 good moments and could cost us the game.

GrahamWa wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:55 pm

Tattie wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:49 pm Wow. Russell, our captain, admitting that they thought the game was won at 27-0, can Scotland get any more amateur hour?

We will get demolished in Dublin.

He thought there the was complacency and that can be the only reason. But he called out players for not listening to the messages of not going into rucks and challenging and they need to be reviewing what they were doing. I thought he was very good in the post match.

Nice for finally talking about accountability. And we've won with the roof closed so fuck 'em.

ASMO wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:47 pm

sefton wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:45 pm The hope will have killed C69, well that and 6 pies and pork scratching at HT.

His skin on certain parts will be red raw

Yr Alban wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:43 pm Wow. Well, at least we’re not wondering how on earth we managed to lose from 27-0 up. That would have been… hard to take. But we shat the bed in Cardiff YET AGAIN, and we have a soft centre that teams like Ireland will (do) expose relentlessly. We can play some excellent rugby, but if we fall to pieces when things don’t go our way then we’ll never win anything. (Not that that was ever likely after last night’s game).

First win since 2002 at our last remaining bogey ground. Should feel delighted, but sort of don’t. A truly good team doesn’t flirt with losing from that sort of position. They put a boot on the opposition’s throat and keep it there.

C69 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:56 pm

Yr Alban wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:43 pm Wow. Well, at least we’re not wondering how on earth we managed to lose from 27-0 up. That would have been… hard to take. But we shat the bed in Cardiff YET AGAIN, and we have a soft centre that teams like Ireland will (do) expose relentlessly. We can play some excellent rugby, but if we fall to pieces when things don’t go our way then we’ll never win anything. (Not that that was ever likely after last night’s game).

First win since 2002 at our last remaining bogey ground. Should feel delighted, but sort of don’t. A truly good team doesn’t flirt with losing from that sort of position. They put a boot on the opposition’s throat and keep it there.

You are spot on.
You are just a bit less shit than our cobbled together rabble

GrahamWa wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:55 pm

Tattie wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:49 pm Wow. Russell, our captain, admitting that they thought the game was won at 27-0, can Scotland get any more amateur hour?

We will get demolished in Dublin.

He thought there the was complacency and that can be the only reason. But he called out players for not listening to the messages of not going into rucks and challenging and they need to be reviewing what they were doing. I thought he was very good in the post match.

Nice for finally talking about accountability. And we've won with the roof closed so fuck 'em.

FalconJock wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:04 pm

GrahamWa wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:55 pm

Tattie wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:49 pm Wow. Russell, our captain, admitting that they thought the game was won at 27-0, can Scotland get any more amateur hour?

We will get demolished in Dublin.

He thought there the was complacency and that can be the only reason. But he called out players for not listening to the messages of not going into rucks and challenging and they need to be reviewing what they were doing. I thought he was very good in the post match.

Nice for finally talking about accountability. And we've won with the roof closed so fuck 'em.

I was wondering who had done the interview and what they had done with Finn.

Not sure what this means going forward but perhaps it might be dissatisfaction with just winning, and the last time I saw that attitude from a Scottish captain was David Sole. It may show an attitude shift that will take us into being more aggressive during this upcoming World Cup cycle which raises us to '90/91 levels of competitiveness.

However with this being Scotland, this is probably the highpoint of this campaign because we have a really soft undebelly

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:04 pm It would be interesting to learn if any team has won a game where the penalty count was 16-4 against with two yellow cards as part of it.
14 penalties against Scotland in a row - you'd think that would be some kind of record.

I very much doubt that we'll face that again.

For fifty minutes there was a huge gulf between the sides. For the last five it was back to that.

FalconJock wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:08 pm

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:04 pm It would be interesting to learn if any team has won a game where the penalty count was 16-4 against with two yellow cards as part of it.
14 penalties against Scotland in a row - you'd think that would be some kind of record.

I very much doubt that we'll face that again.

For fifty minutes there was a huge gulf between the sides. For the last five it was back to that.

What's annoying for me is that Wales were warned in about the 8th minute about being offside and adjusted, Scotland didn't. We are either thicker than a whale omlette or think that refs are dumber than a bag of rocks and all have shor term memory problems.

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:10 pm

FalconJock wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:08 pm

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:04 pm It would be interesting to learn if any team has won a game where the penalty count was 16-4 against with two yellow cards as part of it.
14 penalties against Scotland in a row - you'd think that would be some kind of record.

I very much doubt that we'll face that again.

For fifty minutes there was a huge gulf between the sides. For the last five it was back to that.

What's annoying for me is that Wales were warned in about the 8th minute about being offside and adjusted, Scotland didn't. We are either thicker than a whale omlette or think that refs are dumber than a bag of rocks and all have shor term memory problems.

You've hit on a point that was raised throughout the second half on the Glasgow bored by several posters - the feeling there was that Wales were warned/coached and Scotland were penalised

C69 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:16 pm

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:10 pm

FalconJock wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:08 pm

What's annoying for me is that Wales were warned in about the 8th minute about being offside and adjusted, Scotland didn't. We are either thicker than a whale omlette or think that refs are dumber than a bag of rocks and all have shor term memory problems.

You've hit on a point that was raised throughout the second half on the Glasgow bored by several posters - the feeling there was that Wales were warned/coached and Scotland were penalised

FFS you lot are deluded

C69 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:16 pm

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:10 pm

FalconJock wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:08 pm

What's annoying for me is that Wales were warned in about the 8th minute about being offside and adjusted, Scotland didn't. We are either thicker than a whale omlette or think that refs are dumber than a bag of rocks and all have shor term memory problems.

You've hit on a point that was raised throughout the second half on the Glasgow bored by several posters - the feeling there was that Wales were warned/coached and Scotland were penalised

FFS you lot are deluded

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:04 pm It would be interesting to learn if any other team has won a game where the penalty count was 16-4 against with two yellow cards as part of it.
14 penalties against Scotland in a row - you'd think that would be some kind of record.

I very much doubt that we'll face that again.

For fifty minutes there was a huge gulf between the sides. For the last five it was back to that.

Big D wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:30 pm

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:04 pm It would be interesting to learn if any other team has won a game where the penalty count was 16-4 against with two yellow cards as part of it.
14 penalties against Scotland in a row - you'd think that would be some kind of record.

I very much doubt that we'll face that again.

For fifty minutes there was a huge gulf between the sides. For the last five it was back to that.

It's the same pattern. Pressure comes on, defence goes really passive, give away pens and cards.

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:36 pm

Big D wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:30 pm

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:04 pm It would be interesting to learn if any other team has won a game where the penalty count was 16-4 against with two yellow cards as part of it.
14 penalties against Scotland in a row - you'd think that would be some kind of record.

I very much doubt that we'll face that again.

For fifty minutes there was a huge gulf between the sides. For the last five it was back to that.

It's the same pattern. Pressure comes on, defence goes really passive, give away pens and cards.

You're forced into retreat, it's always more difficult to defend against a team going forward, and momentum has always been huge in rugby.

I'm not one of those who are of the opinion that referees are always in the right, no matter what we see in front of us.

It was up to us to stem the tide and we did it eventually, it took far too long and that is on us.

There were little things as well - last night Ireland wasted a lot of time running down a card, today O'Keefe kept stopping the clock. All I'm asking for in that case is for the same to be applied in both matches.

C69 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:16 pm

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:10 pm

FalconJock wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:08 pm

What's annoying for me is that Wales were warned in about the 8th minute about being offside and adjusted, Scotland didn't. We are either thicker than a whale omlette or think that refs are dumber than a bag of rocks and all have shor term memory problems.

You've hit on a point that was raised throughout the second half on the Glasgow bored by several posters - the feeling there was that Wales were warned/coached and Scotland were penalised

FFS you lot are deluded

What is more likely is what others have described, Scotland do something stupid like get a player sent off, our lineout turns to dung and we cough up more than a dozen stupid penalties - all stuff that we can control but don't

Big D wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:40 pm

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:36 pm

Big D wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:30 pm

It's the same pattern. Pressure comes on, defence goes really passive, give away pens and cards.

You're forced into retreat, it's always more difficult to defend against a team going forward, and momentum has always been huge in rugby.

I'm not one of those who are of the opinion that referees are always in the right, no matter what we see in front of us.

It was up to us to stem the tide and we did it eventually, it took far too long and that is on us.

There were little things as well - last night Ireland wasted a lot of time running down a card, today O'Keefe kept stopping the clock. All I'm asking for in that case is for the same to be applied in both matches.

Momentum is a thing, but we consistently stop moving off the line and give up ground more than any other tier 1 nation in those situations. Taking off Crosbie instead of Ritchie during the binning didn't help with that.

Some of the ref decisions probably were wrong but we were close to career staining and record breaking capitulation. That isn't normal even allowing fornsome decisions going against the team.

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:01 pm I would imagine it's the notion that Wales were coached and Scotland penalised that sparks the accusation of delusion.

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:08 pm Unusual, but not unprecedented. I'll admit to only keep half an eye on proceedings until the momentum swing, but I didn't feel like the ref was saying any more to the Welsh than he was the Scots.

Big D wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:30 pm

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:04 pm It would be interesting to learn if any other team has won a game where the penalty count was 16-4 against with two yellow cards as part of it.
14 penalties against Scotland in a row - you'd think that would be some kind of record.

I very much doubt that we'll face that again.

For fifty minutes there was a huge gulf between the sides. For the last five it was back to that.

It's the same pattern. Pressure comes on, defence goes really passive, give away pens and cards.

C69 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:12 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:08 pm Unusual, but not unprecedented. I'll admit to only keep half an eye on proceedings until the momentum swing, but I didn't feel like the ref was saying any more to the Welsh than he was the Scots.

Nah he was fair. You guys imploded against our kids