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JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:47 pm This Frawley guy is a bit shit isn't he. Shame Billy Burns wasn't available.

Leinster to fail again in Europe.

JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:50 pm Love Lowe celebrating a 50-22 kick like a WWE wrestler

It was a good kick. So good BOD almost fainted on the commentary

Savea is playing? That’s the first time I’ve heard him mentioned.

inactionman wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:51 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:50 pm Love Lowe celebrating a 50-22 kick like a WWE wrestler

It was a good kick. So good BOD almost fainted on the commentary

It was superb. I was being sincere - the actual showboating in front of the crowd amused me, he is ridiculous in many ways

The lesson from this is clear: as soon as anyone polices Ire at the breakdown, they become impotent.

JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:54 pm

inactionman wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:51 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:50 pm Love Lowe celebrating a 50-22 kick like a WWE wrestler

It was a good kick. So good BOD almost fainted on the commentary

It was superb. I was being sincere - the actual showboating in front of the crowd amused me, he is ridiculous in many ways

Ridiculous but joyous.

salanya wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:55 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:54 pm

inactionman wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:51 pm

It was a good kick. So good BOD almost fainted on the commentary

It was superb. I was being sincere - the actual showboating in front of the crowd amused me, he is ridiculous in many ways

Ridiculous but joyous.

Yes. It sometimes makes him look a fool but he really exists on a different planet to most players

I think if you stop during a carry to ask the ref about a knock on when you're ten points down with 2 minutes to go, your head is in the wrong place.

Another Frawley fuck up ends their chance anyway.

DMac POTM, but I would've given it to Jordie.

Big win for an extremely below par NZ. Ireland, bloody hell. Can only assume they'll get better from here.

That'll do.

JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:56 pm

salanya wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:55 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:54 pm

It was superb. I was being sincere - the actual showboating in front of the crowd amused me, he is ridiculous in many ways

Ridiculous but joyous.

Yes. It sometimes makes him look a fool but he really exists on a different planet to most players

Yep !

All this from a guy that everyone reckoned his ankles were shot, & Leinster were mugs for bringing him in on any contract that wasn't, no-play no-pay

Hahahahahahaha

Perofeta was flawless tonight

Has Ratima cleared the pitch yet from when he was hooked?

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:54 pm The lesson from this is clear: as soon as anyone polices Ire at the breakdown, they become impotent.

I don't think it's the breakdown penalties that cause the multiple handling errors, badly timed runs and poor passing
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oh and a misfiring lineout

Frawley might have made mistakes today, and it looks like he's trying too hard now, but he's got the creativity to make things happen in this team, and get backs involved.

Just playing meticulous isn't enough anymore, shown by tonight's game.

JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:05 pm

Paddington Bear wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:01 pm

Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:42 pm


I'm enjoying it, it's an intriguing match up

Agree with this. If I supported either side I feel it would be intense.

You must have loved watching England in the late 2000s

Feel like pure shit just want Martin Corry back

Assume The Swarm is in meltdown on Planet Jake

Ahem, what's the world rankings now?

Decent win NZ

It was always a tough match first one up for Ireland, but it just shows the current lack of depth/experience & for too often we've had great years the year following the RWC, so fuck that; this time we need to use all four years to build.

Paddington Bear wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:01 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:05 pm

Paddington Bear wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:01 pm

Agree with this. If I supported either side I feel it would be intense.

You must have loved watching England in the late 2000s

Feel like pure shit just want Martin Corry back

Maybe there's James Forrester waiting in the wings to turn everything around

Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:01 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:54 pm The lesson from this is clear: as soon as anyone polices Ire at the breakdown, they become impotent.

I don't think it's the breakdown penalties that cause the multiple handling errors, badly timed runs and poor passing
\
oh and a misfiring lineout

I agree with Torq to be honest, the rest is a symptom of not having their own way. Every time they get reffed properly they struggle.

Well done AB’s. Ireland on their way back down, confirmed

If I was Irish I would be really annoyed about 2019 now.

First half from Nick Berry was almost as bad as the first half from Ratima.

Both should go back to the lower leagues to retrain.

That's the number 1 side in the world? Is test rugby at its lowest point ever?

Anyway, Aumua was fantastic again - best thing to come out of the last 2 weeks for the ABs. Like Razor, I wasn't too keen on seeing George Bell on the field...

Bench stepped up as well. PT playing the best rugby of his career.

JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:03 pm

Paddington Bear wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:01 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:05 pm

You must have loved watching England in the late 2000s

Feel like pure shit just want Martin Corry back

Maybe there's James Forrester waiting in the wings to turn everything around

The excitement of Jamie Noon at 13.

Moral Dilemma wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:08 pm That's the number 1 side in the world? Is test rugby at its lowest point ever?

Anyway, Aumua was fantastic again - best thing to come out of the last 2 weeks for the ABs. Like Razor, I wasn't too keen on seeing George Bell on the field...

Bench stepped up as well. PT playing the best rugby of his career.

Who's this arsehole ??

Slick wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:05 pm

Tichtheid wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:01 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:54 pm The lesson from this is clear: as soon as anyone polices Ire at the breakdown, they become impotent.

I don't think it's the breakdown penalties that cause the multiple handling errors, badly timed runs and poor passing
\
oh and a misfiring lineout

I agree with Torq to be honest, the rest is a symptom of not having their own way. Every time they get reffed properly they struggle.

Well done AB’s. Ireland on their way back down, confirmed

Nah, that's a loser's point, blaming refs (which I do when Scotland lose, usually until I rewatch the game). How many people moaned their face off about Richie McCaw? He's the best I've ever seen, or the best forward anyway.

Every single team cheats at the breakdown, without exception.

JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:03 pm

Paddington Bear wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:01 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:05 pm

You must have loved watching England in the late 2000s

Feel like pure shit just want Martin Corry back

Maybe there's James Forrester waiting in the wings to turn everything around

Somehow Sean Perry came up in conversation earlier. Good times

Enzedder wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:07 pm First half from Nick Berry was almost as bad as the first half from Ratima.

Both should go back to the lower leagues to retrain.

Ratima shouldn't make the 23 next week.

Having Martin Corry as a symbol of your low point must be nice - how many honours did he win in the game?

Scottish fans can out-shite anyone.

Moral Dilemma wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:13 pm

Enzedder wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:07 pm First half from Nick Berry was almost as bad as the first half from Ratima.

Both should go back to the lower leagues to retrain.

Ratima shouldn't make the 23 next week.

Both 9s was a bit slow.

Moral Dilemma wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:08 pm That's the number 1 side in the world?

Who cares.

Robertson interviews like a junkie overdue his next fix.

Moral Dilemma wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:08 pmAnyway, Aumua was fantastic again - best thing to come out of the last 2 weeks for the ABs. Like Razor, I wasn't too keen on seeing George Bell on the field...

Yep, Aumua's playing really well. Was sweating a bit over his lineout throwing towards the end, but needn't have worried. Apart from his first throw not being straight, he was spot on. And kudos to our jumpers for nicking a couple of Irish throws... very happy with our set piece over all, tbh.

Ratima had another untidy game, and his struggles to clear the ball were far too Christie-esque for my liking. Roigard simply has to start against France.

Gumboot wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:21 pm

Moral Dilemma wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:08 pmAnyway, Aumua was fantastic again - best thing to come out of the last 2 weeks for the ABs. Like Razor, I wasn't too keen on seeing George Bell on the field...

Yep, Aumua's playing really well. Was sweating a bit over his lineout throwing towards the end, but needn't have worried. Apart from his first throw not being straight, he was spot on. And kudos to our jumpers for nicking a couple of Irish throws... very happy with our set piece over all, tbh.

Ratima had another untidy game, and his struggles to clear the ball were far too Christie-esque for my liking. Roigard simply has to start against France.

Roigard was miles faster in clearing the ball from the ruck. He gave us so much more pace on the ball.

Thought I would try these before the journo's efforts

1. Tamaiti Williams - Very solid, good work trundling the ball of a number of times 7.5

, 2. Asafo Aumua - his best test to date? Put us on the front foot every time he took it up and defended well 8.5

, 3. Tyrel Lomax - did he play? Didn't hear any moans about him so he can't have had a bad game 7

, 4. Scott Barrett (Captain) - played his part well except he should have spent far more time in the first half talking to Berry about the Irish sealing off the mauls. 7.5

, 5. Tupou Vaa’i, - Did well in a number of areas, missed a couple of throws but defended well and gave us lots of go forward 7.5

6. Wallace Sititi - My man of the match, just ahead of Aumua. This man has ticker to burn. 9

, 7. Sam Cane - One of his better games this season. Didn't miss much and cleared the mauls well - we needed another one of him to clear the other buggers lieing all over the ball. 8,

8. Ardie Savea (Vice-Captain), He's still outperforming any other 8 in the world and did so again today 8.5

9. Cortez Ratima, - my mum said, if you have nothing good to say, say nothing. 0

10. Damian McKenzie, Got horrible ball from Ratima - always straight at him so he started flat footed. When he could run, he did well. Kicked very well. 7.5

11. Caleb Clarke, - hard to perform well outside of THAT backline but when he got the ball he ran well when always under pressure. 7

12. Jordie Barrett (Vice-Captain), - when Smilie made his kids, he went for more brawn than brain. It showed. However, he was MASSIVE in the air for more points (With sympathies having to play in a static backline. 6.5

13. Rieko Ioane, - some good, some bad but mostly OK. Good defence 7

14. Mark Tele’a, - he tried hard outside the same backline as Clarke. 7

15. Will Jordan - Dmac was better when he dropped back in cover. Couple of good runs and very good in the air 6.5

Gumboot wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:21 pm

Moral Dilemma wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:08 pmAnyway, Aumua was fantastic again - best thing to come out of the last 2 weeks for the ABs. Like Razor, I wasn't too keen on seeing George Bell on the field...

Yep, Aumua's playing really well. Was sweating a bit over his lineout throwing towards the end, but needn't have worried. Apart from his first throw not being straight, he was spot on. And kudos to our jumpers for nicking a couple of Irish throws... very happy with our set piece over all, tbh.

Ratima had another untidy game, and his struggles to clear the ball were far too Christie-esque for my liking. Roigard simply has to start against France.

I think we all had good reason to worry about Aumua's lineout throwing - but happy to eat crow on this one! He's obviously put in a huge amount of work with Corey Flynn and co.

That was no way to treat the worlds best team

Now I understand why Enzedder gets so angry about mauls. He's actually talking about rucks.

Tuipulotu has finally found his place -- a great player off the bench. He played as well tonight as he did against England. Tupo Vaa'i seemed pretty invisible for long periods.

DMac's kicking out of hand was excellent, except for the 2~3 little chip kicks.

Too low a score for Jordan, he was great under the high ball and scored the decisive try.

This backrow is really working well, with all three playing so well.

Not sure what was wrong with Ratima but he was well off his best. I would definitely start Roigard next week.

I read with interest all the comments after we scraped home against England that Ireland would blow us off the park but we played the #1 team at their homeground and won by 10. More than satisfactory.

Congrats to the Irish band for their new improved version of our horrible national anthem. The shorter the better!