A place where escape goats go to play
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Trump's ability to constantly lower the bar is amazing, many people are saying it.Raggs wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:55 pm War crimes against their own populace?
https://www.newsweek.com/portland-feder ... ssion=true
Federal troops accused of pepper spraying medical supplies in the medical tent...
This appears to actually be the poster Macrosan from PR. Never really noticed them before.Kiwias wrote: ↑Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:07 amThat was a serious post?convoluted wrote: ↑Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:31 amYep. Don't address my points. Don't confess to your brainwashed buffoonery.
But hey, have you heard the latest: Trump has unleashed his secret police Nazi gestapo stormtroopers on the civilian population . It's a forerunner to his tactic when he gets landslided by Joe somebody in an election for Congress some time apparently in the next decade in Mexico, Tacoma and Trump's going to refuse to vacate and this is just his practice run. Must be true, 'cos it's non-stop on XiNN and in the NZ media and lots and lots of seriously intelligent deep thinkers are regurgitating it so gee whizz, that surely confirms it..
Wait, I'm confused. Are those 135K Covid deaths?Line6 HXFX wrote: ↑Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:48 pm Political anarchy is actually a tactic started and used by the Kremlin and Putin. Complete nonsense all the time, keep the populace confused and the media shooting off wildly in different directions, everyday create a new and different outrage... the population switches off and gets bored of the drama..whilst they gathered all the wealth of the country and put it through the London Laundromat.
I said ten years ago Conservatism isn't a longterm vision for the country, there is no ideology there, it is all about selling everything the country owns and has invested in for generations, to their mates, out of the backseat if their car, whilst escaping to the airport.
It is a heist.
In the UK they did it by tapping into the fact that people need hatred anger and resentment to get their low paid, mean spirited behinds out of bed in the morning.
Making people hate the poor, sick (their carers) the unemployed, single mums.
And you did.
You fucking well did.
Well this is what all that resentment, hatred and anger gets you.
135 thousand unnecessary deaths.
A country on its knees.
Austerity.Sandstorm wrote: ↑Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:01 pmWait, I'm confused. Are those 135K Covid deaths?Line6 HXFX wrote: ↑Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:48 pm Political anarchy is actually a tactic started and used by the Kremlin and Putin. Complete nonsense all the time, keep the populace confused and the media shooting off wildly in different directions, everyday create a new and different outrage... the population switches off and gets bored of the drama..whilst they gathered all the wealth of the country and put it through the London Laundromat.
I said ten years ago Conservatism isn't a longterm vision for the country, there is no ideology there, it is all about selling everything the country owns and has invested in for generations, to their mates, out of the backseat if their car, whilst escaping to the airport.
It is a heist.
In the UK they did it by tapping into the fact that people need hatred anger and resentment to get their low paid, mean spirited behinds out of bed in the morning.
Making people hate the poor, sick (their carers) the unemployed, single mums.
And you did.
You fucking well did.
Well this is what all that resentment, hatred and anger gets you.
135 thousand unnecessary deaths.
A country on its knees.
Or Russian spy kills on UK soil as ordered by Putin?
Or something about Thatcher and the mines?
Yep ! Speed freaks aren't renowned for their stability.Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:34 pm Chances of Trump staying on message? Seems more likely he'll say something dafter than swallow bleach, he's hearing a lot of good people talk about drinking bleach
It will be for some people, for some of them they'd get into a lot of trouble for not following orders.
Resign if you're given an illegal order.Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:46 amIt will be for some people, for some of them they'd get into a lot of trouble for not following orders.
It's not easy to know what will be done, the balance to be struck between not wanting merely to be seen persecuting a political rival Vs going after some serious abuses will not be easy to find. And if they're going to bring cases they need to actually achieve something.
Barr looks like someone who should be in a lot of hot water along with Trump. I don't know how much lower I'd want to drop down the line of command however
Zig wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:08 amResign if you're given an illegal order.Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:46 amIt will be for some people, for some of them they'd get into a lot of trouble for not following orders.
It's not easy to know what will be done, the balance to be struck between not wanting merely to be seen persecuting a political rival Vs going after some serious abuses will not be easy to find. And if they're going to bring cases they need to actually achieve something.
Barr looks like someone who should be in a lot of hot water along with Trump. I don't know how much lower I'd want to drop down the line of command however
Plenty have.
Those who don't deserve to face the consequences of their actions.
It's all good:Ali Cadoo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 1:29 pm For those of you wondering how long it would take for people marching with guns to get themselves into trouble, a protester - who was pushing his disabled girlfriend in her wheelchair on the BLM protest in Austin on Saturday - was shot and killed by the driver of a car that pushed it's way through the march (rather than take a lengthy detour to avoid the march, it is presumed) and allegedly knocked the wheelchair. The deceased was carrying an AK47 rifle (of course... why wouldn't you?) and waved it at the driver of the car, who, apparently, also had a gun.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/26/us/austi ... index.html
'Murica.
The driver accused of shooting Foster was brought in by police for questioning, and his handgun and car were secured for evidence, police said, and another person who fired their gun at the car was brought in for questioning. Both had a concealed handgun license and were released pending further investigation.
A bad guy with a gun can get shot by a good guy with a gun, who can get shot by a good guy with a gun, who thought he was the bad guy, who got shot by a good guy with a gun who thought that was the bad guy...Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 1:59 pmIt's all good:Ali Cadoo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 1:29 pm For those of you wondering how long it would take for people marching with guns to get themselves into trouble, a protester - who was pushing his disabled girlfriend in her wheelchair on the BLM protest in Austin on Saturday - was shot and killed by the driver of a car that pushed it's way through the march (rather than take a lengthy detour to avoid the march, it is presumed) and allegedly knocked the wheelchair. The deceased was carrying an AK47 rifle (of course... why wouldn't you?) and waved it at the driver of the car, who, apparently, also had a gun.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/26/us/austi ... index.html
'Murica.
The driver accused of shooting Foster was brought in by police for questioning, and his handgun and car were secured for evidence, police said, and another person who fired their gun at the car was brought in for questioning. Both had a concealed handgun license and were released pending further investigation.
President Donald Trump's national security adviser, Robert O'Brien, has tested positive for Covid-19, according to an official familiar with what happened.
O'Brien's diagnosis marks the highest-ranking Trump administration official known to have tested positive. It's unclear when O'Brien last met with Trump. Their last public appearance together was over two weeks ago during a visit to US Southern Command in Miami on July 10.
O'Brien, one of Trump's top aides, recently returned from Europe, where he and his top deputy met with officials from the UK, France, Germany and Italy.
A senior administration official told CNN that O'Brien has been working from home since last week. A source familiar said O'Brien was last in the office last Thursday, when he abruptly left the White House.
Several National Security Council staffers told CNN that they weren't informed that O'Brien tested positive and learned of the news from media reports.
The National Security Council chief was accompanied on the trip to Europe by Secret Service agents, staffers and multiple reporters. Multiple pictures released from the trip showed O'Brien neither practicing social distancing nor wearing a mask.
As the pandemic has spread, the President has defended not wearing a mask or social distancing, with many of his top officials and White House staffers following suit, saying that it's not necessary because they are tested every day. O'Brien's positive test underscores the unique challenges of keeping the virus away from the West Wing and the President's immediate orbit.
Last week, administration officials were alerted that a cafeteria employee on White House grounds had tested positive. Kimberly Guilfoyle, the President's son's girlfriend and top campaign fundraising official, tested positive before a trip to Mt. Rushmore earlier this month. Multiple Secret Service agents and campaign staffers tested positive after becoming infected while preparing for the President's Tulsa campaign rally in June. Vice President Mike Pence's communications aide Katie Miller tested positive for coronavirus in May, and one of the President's personal valets tested positive earlier that week.
O'Brien, Trump's fourth national security adviser, has been largely out of sight during the coronavirus pandemic. CNN has previously reported that rather than helping to lead the administration's response, he has delegated responsibilities to top aides and even bypassed coronavirus task force meetings.
Trump tapped O'Brien, a former lawyer and hostage negotiator, to the post in September 2019, one week after he fired John Bolton amid disagreements on foreign policy issues.
Trump is also showing signs of ill-health. These days they'd call me ageist, but they really need an age limit of 70 at the start of any Presidential campaign going forward.Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:31 pm Biden and his people sidestepping mental health issues. I is worried.
I agree completely. It was very disappointing for all the front runners on the Democratic side to be so bloody old.Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:38 pmTrump is also showing signs of ill-health. These days they'd call me ageist, but they really need an age limit of 70 at the start of any Presidential campaign going forward.Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:31 pm Biden and his people sidestepping mental health issues. I is worried.
Of all the people wishing for the elderly to be sidelined, so disappointed by you, Fangle.Fangle wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:42 pmI agree completely. It was very disappointing for all the front runners on the Democratic side to be so bloody old.Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:38 pmTrump is also showing signs of ill-health. These days they'd call me ageist, but they really need an age limit of 70 at the start of any Presidential campaign going forward.Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:31 pm Biden and his people sidestepping mental health issues. I is worried.
I'd set that as an upper age-limit for occupying any office above local council.If someone were set to pass the threshold during their elected term, they would be ineligible to run.Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:38 pmTrump is also showing signs of ill-health. These days they'd call me ageist, but they really need an age limit of 70 at the start of any Presidential campaign going forward.Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:31 pm Biden and his people sidestepping mental health issues. I is worried.
Are you suggesting that I should run for president?
The republican base is neither a majority nor silent.Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:31 pm So I am now pretty sure that the 'silent majority' thing that trump bangs on about is not entirely the ramblings of a man who probably struggles to wipe himself after do do's.
There has been a pretty big shift in the way people are talking about Biden (admittedly - on social media).....I think the Dems are going to mess this up again.
And this is also under the cloud of Hillary entering the picture for a possible VP role and Biden and his people sidestepping mental health issues. I is worried.
And on that note - the DNC platform committee voted against Medicare 4 all (125 votes to 36) but its quoted that 88% Democrat voters are in favour of it. Many progressives are up in arms about it!Bokkom wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:31 pmThe Democratic Party has no interest in Progressives at all. That they have shown over and over again.Hugo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:17 amDoesn't this just alienate progressives whose votes are also much needed? I know he's relatively sensible and moderate for a Republican but his stance on signature progressive issues like the environment and abortion will be repellent to left wing voters. These aren't the type of endorsements that they find palatable.
Is he really that influential that he's going to bring a substantial number of republicans into the fold or sway undecided voters?
They are just not the Trump party, so to speak.
