NPR

Hugo wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 5:05 pm Chelsea spent a fortune this summer but did not prioritise their biggest area of need - goalkeeping. They only just made the deal for that big lad from France.

They had such a porous defence last season and have already let in 6 goals in less than 3 games this.

ScarfaceClaw wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 7:41 pm Update: clearly this means Arsenal will score 3 in the second half to paper over the cracks.

Slick wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:52 pm Ronaldo

Bloody hell

Have so enjoyed all the bitter, salty pieces across the media about him being past it, how he’ll upset the team, he’s not quick enough these days etc etc.

2 goals on debut

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:13 am Renaldo Is a legend.

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 8:36 pm The women's soccer isn't a bad watch. Diving and faking injury conspicuously and pleasantly absent.

Slick wrote: ↑Sun Jul 31, 2022 8:59 pm Yup, terrific stuff from England, hugely inspiring for girls across the U.K. I would think, well done.

I have to say having watched a bit of the tournament, seen how much fun the crowd were having and having really enjoyed the day we had at the women’s rugby earlier this year that women’s sport is fast becoming something i want to go and watch. Very little of the cynicism and lack of sportsmanship you see across men’s sport and played and watched how sport should be

Blackmac wrote: ↑Sun Jul 31, 2022 8:51 pm Have to say I thoroughly enjoyed the ladies football and absolutely delighted at the result, as is just about everyone I know.

Slick wrote: ↑Sun Jul 31, 2022 8:59 pm Yup, terrific stuff from England, hugely inspiring for girls across the U.K. I would think, well done.

I have to say having watched a bit of the tournament, seen how much fun the crowd were having and having really enjoyed the day we had at the women’s rugby earlier this year that women’s sport is fast becoming something i want to go and watch. Very little of the cynicism and lack of sportsmanship you see across men’s sport and played and watched how sport should be

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:10 am

Slick wrote: ↑Sun Jul 31, 2022 8:59 pm Yup, terrific stuff from England, hugely inspiring for girls across the U.K. I would think, well done.

I have to say having watched a bit of the tournament, seen how much fun the crowd were having and having really enjoyed the day we had at the women’s rugby earlier this year that women’s sport is fast becoming something i want to go and watch. Very little of the cynicism and lack of sportsmanship you see across men’s sport and played and watched how sport should be

Was quite amused / entertained by the cynicism on display in the final, tbh! Some excellent shithousery.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:10 am

Slick wrote: ↑Sun Jul 31, 2022 8:59 pm Yup, terrific stuff from England, hugely inspiring for girls across the U.K. I would think, well done.

I have to say having watched a bit of the tournament, seen how much fun the crowd were having and having really enjoyed the day we had at the women’s rugby earlier this year that women’s sport is fast becoming something i want to go and watch. Very little of the cynicism and lack of sportsmanship you see across men’s sport and played and watched how sport should be

Was quite amused / entertained by the cynicism on display in the final, tbh! Some excellent shithousery.

tc27 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 9:30 am So going my head above the parapet and say the whole 'its finally come home' theme is a bit of a reach. Winning the women's Euros is an achievement that stands in its own right but its not something that finally ends the ongoing narrative associated with the men's team.

Slick wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 9:38 am

tc27 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 9:30 am So going my head above the parapet and say the whole 'its finally come home' theme is a bit of a reach. Winning the women's Euros is an achievement that stands in its own right but its not something that finally ends the ongoing narrative associated with the men's team.

Yeah, it's bollocks. Kind of demeans their own achievement a bit by seeming a little needy when they don't need to be

Slick wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:54 am

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:10 am

Slick wrote: ↑Sun Jul 31, 2022 8:59 pm Yup, terrific stuff from England, hugely inspiring for girls across the U.K. I would think, well done.

I have to say having watched a bit of the tournament, seen how much fun the crowd were having and having really enjoyed the day we had at the women’s rugby earlier this year that women’s sport is fast becoming something i want to go and watch. Very little of the cynicism and lack of sportsmanship you see across men’s sport and played and watched how sport should be

Was quite amused / entertained by the cynicism on display in the final, tbh! Some excellent shithousery.

Yeah, as I was writing that I was thinking about the last 10 minutes when there was at least as much shithousery as the men’s game but didn’t want to sound bitter!

OK, in the rugby at least.

Generally the footie is a hell of a lot better though and very little screaming at the ref

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 10:13 am

Slick wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:54 am

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:10 am

Was quite amused / entertained by the cynicism on display in the final, tbh! Some excellent shithousery.

Yeah, as I was writing that I was thinking about the last 10 minutes when there was at least as much shithousery as the men’s game but didn’t want to sound bitter!

OK, in the rugby at least.

Generally the footie is a hell of a lot better though and very little screaming at the ref

Yeah, it is a much more pleasant watch. The last 7 minutes was superb, especially I was like "no don't try and play it out in the corner, it's way too early for that" which shows how much I know. It was genuinely enjoyable to watch if you were a fan of the team doing it.

There was plenty of German niggle and shithousery in regular time, it felt very "professional" and very quickly told me that the Germans were prepared to do anything to win, as is right and proper in a major final.

robmatic wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 7:53 am

Blackmac wrote: ↑Sun Jul 31, 2022 8:51 pm Have to say I thoroughly enjoyed the ladies football and absolutely delighted at the result, as is just about everyone I know.

A surprising number of my 'anyone but England' Scottish friends were pleased.

tc27 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 9:30 am So going my head above the parapet and say the whole 'its finally come home' theme is a bit of a reach. Winning the women's Euros is an achievement that stands in its own right but its not something that finally ends the ongoing narrative associated with the men's team.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 10:11 am

Slick wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 9:38 am

tc27 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 9:30 am So going my head above the parapet and say the whole 'its finally come home' theme is a bit of a reach. Winning the women's Euros is an achievement that stands in its own right but its not something that finally ends the ongoing narrative associated with the men's team.

Yeah, it's bollocks. Kind of demeans their own achievement a bit by seeming a little needy when they don't need to be

Nah, you just need to put it into context. Every single one of those players is a massive fan of English football. Being part of the team that finally wins a major trophy genuinely feels like part of that whole journey to them (including the men's team) especially given their previous finals experiences. If they weren't playing, they'd be in the stands celebrating with just as much gusto. They care about football - men's, women's - and it's a great credit to them.

Are there plenty of people who won't see this as ending the hurt? Absolutely. But it is equivalent for these girls and I just can't see it as needy at all; it's a generation of players who've grown up with all the pressure and the agony of the men's failures who can't do anything about that but can for the women's game. It seems like a genuine response to me. Would also say the crowd seemed a-OK with singing the song! :-)

I don't think tc27 is wrong or anything, it's purely subjective (and it clearly won't end the narrative - it'll just put the pressure on the men's team to do the same / take heart from it), I just... don't think it's needy at all.

Slick wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:35 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 10:11 am

Slick wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 9:38 am

Yeah, it's bollocks. Kind of demeans their own achievement a bit by seeming a little needy when they don't need to be

Nah, you just need to put it into context. Every single one of those players is a massive fan of English football. Being part of the team that finally wins a major trophy genuinely feels like part of that whole journey to them (including the men's team) especially given their previous finals experiences. If they weren't playing, they'd be in the stands celebrating with just as much gusto. They care about football - men's, women's - and it's a great credit to them.

Are there plenty of people who won't see this as ending the hurt? Absolutely. But it is equivalent for these girls and I just can't see it as needy at all; it's a generation of players who've grown up with all the pressure and the agony of the men's failures who can't do anything about that but can for the women's game. It seems like a genuine response to me. Would also say the crowd seemed a-OK with singing the song! :-)

I don't think tc27 is wrong or anything, it's purely subjective (and it clearly won't end the narrative - it'll just put the pressure on the men's team to do the same / take heart from it), I just... don't think it's needy at all.

I’d just prefer it if you had a few more years of hurt really

C69 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 01, 2022 2:47 pm I think that Chloe Kelly's Brandi Chatain moment will set her up for life.
Good on her I say, great to see a supreme example sporting joy on the pitch.