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Craps bowlers letting it slip a bit. A bit tired maybe. Probably waiting for the morning to have a go while fresh. WI batters could make a mistake at some point this afternoon as well. Thats what the craps are hoping at the moment.

Carter's Choice wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:21 am Just checked back in after a nap. Missed all 6 wickets this innings

Corey Anderson has signed a three year contract in the US. He’s had a horrible run of injuries but with our current depth it would be a hard road back even if he did regain full fitness.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/bla ... sa-cricket

Carter's Choice wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:21 am Just checked back in after a nap. Missed all 6 wickets this innings

Well played!

Day 4 (hopefully not the whole day though)

Mostly fine with a little bit of cloud around. Faint westerly - perfect for golf and cricket.

Do we go to Number 1 in the rankings with a win here?
Would seem strange after Oz dicked us last year

Enzedder wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:42 pm Day 4 (hopefully not the whole day though)

Mostly fine with a little bit of cloud around. Faint westerly - perfect for golf and cricket.

How long until play resumes?

Carter's Choice wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:45 pm

Enzedder wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:42 pm Day 4 (hopefully not the whole day though)

Mostly fine with a little bit of cloud around. Faint westerly - perfect for golf and cricket.

How long until play resumes?

In a couple of minutes.

This link still working well (mute button is bottom right and needs to be toggled)

https://en.webcric.com/watch-new-zealan ... eaming.htm

Enzedder wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:42 pm Day 4 (hopefully not the whole day though)

Mostly fine with a little bit of cloud around. Faint westerly - perfect for golf and cricket.

Do we go to Number 1 in the rankings with a win here?

Code: Select all

POS	TEAM	         MATCHES	POINTS	RATING
1         Australia       26	3,028	116
2	 New Zealand	   21	2,406	115
3	 India	        27	3,085	114
4	 England	  41	4,326	106
5	 Sri Lanka	 27	2,454	91

Would seem strange after Oz dicked us last year

We have a mental block vs Australia but have been pretty consistent other than that. Our results in the sub-continent lately are pretty favourable compared to Australia’s from memory.

Jb1981 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:15 pm

Enzedder wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:42 pm Day 4 (hopefully not the whole day though)

Mostly fine with a little bit of cloud around. Faint westerly - perfect for golf and cricket.

Do we go to Number 1 in the rankings with a win here?

Code: Select all

POS	TEAM	         MATCHES	POINTS	RATING
1         Australia       26	3,028	116
2	 New Zealand	   21	2,406	115
3	 India	        27	3,085	114
4	 England	  41	4,326	106
5	 Sri Lanka	 27	2,454	91

Would seem strange after Oz dicked us last year

We have a mental block vs Australia but have been pretty consistent other than that. Our results in the sub-continent lately are pretty favourable compared to Australia’s from memory.

Do we have a mental block against Australia, or a skills deficit against world class pace bowling on fast, bouncy wickets?

I think a mental block plays a part. We may have a skill problem in those conditions but I think that is exacerbated by feeling bullied (little brother syndrome).

Finally - Joseph commits suicide. Great innings of 86 off 125 balls

And now we get Blackwood as well for 104.

247/8

And Wagner also gets the last (he has 4) for a win by an innings and 137

Bugger -- a sleep-in is good but I missed this morning's play.

Well done, BCs.

That'll do.

Very good partnership by Blackwood and Joseph in a lost cause.

Wonder if Conway will get a start at the Basin.

Rather see Conway in before Henry "useless" Nicholls. Would like to see him come in at 4 before Roscoe.

obelixtim wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 1:48 am Rather see Conway in before Henry "useless" Nicholls. Would like to see him come in at 4 before Roscoe.

You also wanted Southee dropped before he ripped through the West Indies top order, so maybe sit this one out. Moving one of our best ever batsmen out of his best for a debutant is on another level again.

mrbrownstone wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:35 am

obelixtim wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 1:48 am Rather see Conway in before Henry "useless" Nicholls. Would like to see him come in at 4 before Roscoe.

You also wanted Southee dropped before he ripped through the West Indies top order, so maybe sit this one out. Moving one of our best ever batsmen out of his best for a debutant is on another level again.

Henry Nicholls is far from "one of our best ever batsmen". He did nothing in this game, and has failed multiple times. Reminds me of Craig McMillion. Flat track bully who fails far more often than he produces. And Southee gets a good day now and again when the pitch is in his favour. I'll give him credit for this game.

And I think Conway could become a great player, he certainly deserves a chance.

obelixtim wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:47 am

mrbrownstone wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:35 am

obelixtim wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 1:48 am Rather see Conway in before Henry "useless" Nicholls. Would like to see him come in at 4 before Roscoe.

You also wanted Southee dropped before he ripped through the West Indies top order, so maybe sit this one out. Moving one of our best ever batsmen out of his best for a debutant is on another level again.

Henry Nicholls is far from "one of our best ever batsmen". He did nothing in this game, and has failed multiple times. Reminds me of Craig McMillion. Flat track bully who fails far more often than he produces. And Southee gets a good day now and again when the pitch is in his favour. I'll give him credit for this game.

And I think Conway could become a great player, he certainly deserves a chance.

I believe he was referring to your suggestion that Conway be squeezed in the batting order at 4, which requires moving Taylor to 5. Taylor is already a great player who deserves more respect than being jiggled around for a newbie who could become a great player.

Kiwias wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:49 am

obelixtim wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:47 am

mrbrownstone wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:35 am

You also wanted Southee dropped before he ripped through the West Indies top order, so maybe sit this one out. Moving one of our best ever batsmen out of his best for a debutant is on another level again.

Henry Nicholls is far from "one of our best ever batsmen". He did nothing in this game, and has failed multiple times. Reminds me of Craig McMillion. Flat track bully who fails far more often than he produces. And Southee gets a good day now and again when the pitch is in his favour. I'll give him credit for this game.

And I think Conway could become a great player, he certainly deserves a chance.

I believe he was referring to your suggestion that Conway be squeezed in the batting order at 4, which requires moving Taylor to 5. Taylor is already a great player who deserves more respect than being jiggled around for a newbie who could become a great player.

That's right. I'm not against Conway getting a go, but Taylor has a lock on the 4 position until he retires.

Yep, Taylor should stay at 4.

So if Conway gets a go will it be at the expense of Latham's opening partner, or Nicholls at 5?

Blundell back to opener - Watling comes back in and Conway for Nicholls.

I wanted Conway up the order, (but not opening) because I can see him and KW spending a lot of time batting together. He seems like a very cool customer. Which is why I put him ahead of Roscoe.

Roscoe can still do a good job at 5, but he won't be around forever, so It would be a good time to give Conway a decent crack with an eye to the future.

obelixtim wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:57 am I wanted Conway up the order, (but not opening) because I can see him and KW spending a lot of time batting together. He seems like a very cool customer. Which is why I put him ahead of Roscoe.

Roscoe can still do a good job at 5, but he won't be around forever, so It would be a good time to give Conway a decent crack with an eye to the future.

Then put him at 5 and move him up the order if Taylor's form drops off over a sustained period.

Taylor shouldn’t be shifted from four. This depth is a great luxury to have in the middle order. Now, back to the age old struggle to find a second opener.

Can't see them move one of greatest ever for a debutant and nor should they.

Nicholls has the runs on the board but will need something this series to secure his spot in the future matches and he had that luxury because of the thrashing that just got dished out.

Interesting conundrum now though is what to do with the bowling attack. Won't get away with no spinner forever - that includes picking santner

Watling likely to be back for the second test, Kane to play while likely missing the first test against Pakistan.

Also all those calling for southee to be dropped will be shocked to see he has reached his highest ever ranking of 4th in the world... Wagner up to 2 well behind Cummins

Kane gone from the second test with his wife set to give birth to their first child. Obviously takes priority, and not a bad chance to give Will Young another opportunity anyway. Latham to captain.

Decent chance he still ends up as top run scorer for the series from just 1 innings anyway.

So likely we'll see: Latham (c), Blundell, Young, Taylor, Nicholls, Watling, Mitchell/Santner, Jamieson, Southee, Wagner, Boult

Batting does look a touch vulnerable with Young new, Blundell still inexperienced in the opening role, Nicholls searching for form, and Watling just back. Plenty falls on Latham and Taylor.

It is a windy but sunny day for day one. The pitch will have spent most of this week under covers so a look at that will be interesting.

Huge test without Kane. Think at one point he was on 150 odd and the rest were 200/6, hoping Taylor goes big and young is a bit more confident at the crease.

Just in case anyone's friend was asking.

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mrbrownstone wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:38 am Kane gone from the second test with his wife set to give birth to their first child. Obviously takes priority, and not a bad chance to give Will Young another opportunity anyway. Latham to captain.

Decent chance he still ends up as top run scorer for the series from just 1 innings anyway.

So likely we'll see: Latham (c), Blundell, Young, Taylor, Nicholls, Watling, Mitchell/Santner, Jamieson, Southee, Wagner, Boult

Batting does look a touch vulnerable with Young new, Blundell still inexperienced in the opening role, Nicholls searching for form, and Watling just back. Plenty falls on Latham and Taylor.

Much as you said. 78-3 now, Latham, Blundell, and Taylor gone now.

Kiwias wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:42 pm Just in case anyone's friend was asking.

http://rwc19.rf.gd/foxcricket.html

Seems to be blocked in Godzown.

My friend is getting great quality here

https://cricstream.me/new-zealand-vs-we ... e/stream-1

Windies won the toss and will be happy to have BCs 82-3 at lunch.

Kiwias wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:05 am Windies won the toss and will be happy to have BCs 82-3 at lunch.

They would have been ecstatic if they held the chance from Will Young when he was on a duck,

if u don't live in NZ , teh game is live on youtube.. official

Enzedder wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:01 am

Kiwias wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:42 pm Just in case anyone's friend was asking.

http://rwc19.rf.gd/foxcricket.html

Seems to be blocked in Godzown.

My friend is getting great quality here

https://cricstream.me/new-zealand-vs-we ... e/stream-1

My friend is eternally grateful.

stemoc wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:38 am if u don't live in NZ , teh game is live on youtube.. official

Thanks, comets.

Nicholls dropped at slip, a straight-forward chance. He has been very lucky in this innings.

EDIT: two balls later, the keeper drops at even easier chance.

Nicholls looks as if he is trying to get out