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fishfoodie wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 9:11 pm I know I'm just an interested observer, & in no way an expert, but bloody hell, the number of terrifying incidents on VASAviation is off the charts

There are a couple of obvious trends:

1) After COVID, an absolute shitload of senior pilots decided to just chuck it in & go off to smell the roses. The consequence was that the Airlines in the US, who are just parasites, & don't do anything for themselves, had a massive shortage of pilots, & the FAA dropped the requirements to push more students thru the sausage machine, to make them meet the qualification to apply to become airline pilot, with hundreds of of souls now in their hands. The result ?; a lot of fatal accidents, where you had a student, & an, "instructor pilot", who was actually just a student with more experience, but needed more flying hours to qualify for the big game ! There are a number of these cataloged on Youtube, & they share a pattern of someone who isn't mature/experienced enough to fly on their own, let alone be an instructor, but has hours, as if hours was that magical thing that made one !

2) The pressure on the system in the US is off the scale. I don't know if the exodus in ATC was the same as Pilots, but I can't see why it wouldn't have been, but I must say in fairness that the incidents I've seen seem to be overwhelmingly down to pilots, & ATC & Pilots have to work in concert, with both sides trusting the other to listen, & not just go off on their own to meet the schedule. The number of incidents where aircraft have just cruised on past their stop lines & casually crossed underneath, or just in front of landing aircraft in the last 6 months in the US is terrifying, & then you have one like this, where a Pilot just flat out ignored the ATC telling him to go-round, because he had another aircraft on final approach, & the fucker just continued



Imagine the death toll from two aircraft colliding over Phillie !

Someone needs to explain to the FAA that they work for the American Public, & not the Aircraft Manufactures, & not the Airlines, & not the Airports, but only for the passengers on those aircraft, & if an of them die, then their relatives will be able to sue the employees of the FAA for wrongful death.

Boeing and NASA executives fought in tense meetings over how to bring home the two astronauts stranded at the International Space Station in the days after announcing the pair was stuck in space, according to The New York Post.

The outlet reported Friday that sources at both Boeing and NASA confirmed the high-level meetings between the two organizations descended into arguments and yelling over whether to bring the astronauts home on the troubled Boeing Starliner that brought them to the ISS on its first crewed mission.

"It was heated," a NASA executive familiar with the talks told the Post. "Boeing was convinced that the Starliner was in good enough condition to bring the astronauts home, and NASA disagreed. Strongly disagreed. The thinking around here was that Boeing was being wildly irresponsible."

NASA astronauts Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams were flown to space on Boeing's Starliner on June 5 for a mission that was initially supposed to last about eight days, but Starliner experienced helium leaks and thruster issues that prompted NASA and Boeing to investigate the issues for weeks.

Ultimately, NASA decided Saturday to tap Elon Musk's SpaceX — Boeing's main space rival — to shuttle the astronauts home early next year on a SpaceX Crew-9 Dragon mission. Starliner will make an uncrewed return.

"Boeing wasn’t happy" with that decision, the NASA executive told the Post. "And they made that perfectly clear to us. But what’s the headline if there’s a catastrophic failure? It’s not ‘Boeing killed two astronauts,’ it’s ‘NASA killed two astronauts.’ So no, it’s better safe than sorry."
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Biffer wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 7:58 pm Of course when it comes to ‘wildly irresponsible’ about human space flight, Musk has his own issues. This Polaris Dawn mission is something NASA would never fly. The level of risk in that mission is way too high for a manned mission. They’re basically experimenting with radiation on live humans.

fishfoodie wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 8:04 pm

Biffer wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 7:58 pm Of course when it comes to ‘wildly irresponsible’ about human space flight, Musk has his own issues. This Polaris Dawn mission is something NASA would never fly. The level of risk in that mission is way too high for a manned mission. They’re basically experimenting with radiation on live humans.

Although they're not exactly who'd I'd have, NASA will be the, "Adults in the room", when it comes to certifying any of Space Karens craft as human rated, & we'll be waiting a very, very long time before that happens, if ever !

One of the lesser know abortions of the traitors administration was his pick for NASA, on her last day in office, unilaterally picking the SpaceX proposal for the return to the moon, despite it being the 3rd of three proposals !!!!

Wanna guest where she left NASA to go work ?

Biffer wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 9:38 pm

fishfoodie wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 8:04 pm

Biffer wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 7:58 pm Of course when it comes to ‘wildly irresponsible’ about human space flight, Musk has his own issues. This Polaris Dawn mission is something NASA would never fly. The level of risk in that mission is way too high for a manned mission. They’re basically experimenting with radiation on live humans.

Although they're not exactly who'd I'd have, NASA will be the, "Adults in the room", when it comes to certifying any of Space Karens craft as human rated, & we'll be waiting a very, very long time before that happens, if ever !

One of the lesser know abortions of the traitors administration was his pick for NASA, on her last day in office, unilaterally picking the SpaceX proposal for the return to the moon, despite it being the 3rd of three proposals !!!!

Wanna guest where she left NASA to go work ?

They’re already human flight rated, they take people to ISS.

But the Polaris Dawn shit is different level.

fishfoodie wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 9:56 pm

Biffer wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 9:38 pm

fishfoodie wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 8:04 pm

Although they're not exactly who'd I'd have, NASA will be the, "Adults in the room", when it comes to certifying any of Space Karens craft as human rated, & we'll be waiting a very, very long time before that happens, if ever !

One of the lesser know abortions of the traitors administration was his pick for NASA, on her last day in office, unilaterally picking the SpaceX proposal for the return to the moon, despite it being the 3rd of three proposals !!!!

Wanna guest where she left NASA to go work ?

They’re already human flight rated, they take people to ISS.

But the Polaris Dawn shit is different level.

Yeah the Dragon is, but it isn't going to the Moon, or anywhere further than ISS, or basically anywhere where radiation long term is something Karen can handwave away like it doesn't exist.

For someone who pretends to be a tech dude, Karen doesn't do maths, & any simple mathematic analysis shits all over his, "plans" when it comes to going further than NEO.

Sandstorm wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 7:54 am Surely next-generation genetic modification will allow mammals to have offspring in low-gravity environments? If you drop the ethical standard then anything is possible.

Biffer wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 8:03 am

Sandstorm wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 7:54 am Surely next-generation genetic modification will allow mammals to have offspring in low-gravity environments? If you drop the ethical standard then anything is possible.

So it's not possible then, at the moment? And there's no clear idea if it ever will be?

petej wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 8:23 am

Biffer wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 8:03 am

Sandstorm wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 7:54 am Surely next-generation genetic modification will allow mammals to have offspring in low-gravity environments? If you drop the ethical standard then anything is possible.

So it's not possible then, at the moment? And there's no clear idea if it ever will be?

Have we done reproduction experiments on rats and mice in low gravity environments?

petej wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 8:23 am

Biffer wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 8:03 am

Sandstorm wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 7:54 am Surely next-generation genetic modification will allow mammals to have offspring in low-gravity environments? If you drop the ethical standard then anything is possible.

So it's not possible then, at the moment? And there's no clear idea if it ever will be?

Have we done reproduction experiments on rats and mice in low gravity environments?