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Very weak tackle attempts around the guard. Particularly through/under Sykes IIRC.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2024 3:48 pm
My recollection of that second half was that there were big gaping holes rather than missed tackles - to me that's a failure of the system. Benetton scored a couple from pick and drives, which are really difficult to defend against without losing players to yellow cards - it's just the way it's refereed, it seems to be the only part of the park where offside at a ruck is actually monitored.
Agreed - standing too tall for a big man, needed to get lower to match hight of Creevy. However Creevy is a world class operator at that distance and has beaten better defenses than Embra's close up and probably better for us than giving away a yellow card penalty try?Big D wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2024 10:34 pmVery weak tackle attempts around the guard. Particularly through/under Sykes IIRC.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2024 3:48 pm
My recollection of that second half was that there were big gaping holes rather than missed tackles - to me that's a failure of the system. Benetton scored a couple from pick and drives, which are really difficult to defend against without losing players to yellow cards - it's just the way it's refereed, it seems to be the only part of the park where offside at a ruck is actually monitored.
dpedin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2024 10:45 amAgreed - standing too tall for a big man, needed to get lower to match hight of Creevy. However Creevy is a world class operator at that distance and has beaten better defenses than Embra's close up and probably better for us than giving away a yellow card penalty try?Big D wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2024 10:34 pmVery weak tackle attempts around the guard. Particularly through/under Sykes IIRC.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2024 3:48 pm
My recollection of that second half was that there were big gaping holes rather than missed tackles - to me that's a failure of the system. Benetton scored a couple from pick and drives, which are really difficult to defend against without losing players to yellow cards - it's just the way it's refereed, it seems to be the only part of the park where offside at a ruck is actually monitored.
Yeah both are true, but I do think it is an area to be better in as it wouldn't need a world class effort to beat their attempts at a tackle last week.dpedin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2024 10:45 amAgreed - standing too tall for a big man, needed to get lower to match hight of Creevy. However Creevy is a world class operator at that distance and has beaten better defenses than Embra's close up and probably better for us than giving away a yellow card penalty try?Big D wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2024 10:34 pmVery weak tackle attempts around the guard. Particularly through/under Sykes IIRC.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2024 3:48 pm
My recollection of that second half was that there were big gaping holes rather than missed tackles - to me that's a failure of the system. Benetton scored a couple from pick and drives, which are really difficult to defend against without losing players to yellow cards - it's just the way it's refereed, it seems to be the only part of the park where offside at a ruck is actually monitored.
Face? Poor sod just cannot catch a break.Dogbert wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2024 1:16 pm URC 2024 Champions team for Sale for Saturday.
After the 'B' team win against Scarlets last Friday, Franco goes fully loaded for Sale.
Only real surprise is Jare starting, rather than Samuel ( the cupboard is a bit bare with Gray now in Japan , and JP du Preez , and Williamson on the injury list - though I hear both should be back shortly , Gregor Brown , who also can provide cover at lock - also on the injury list.
Ollie Smith now officially of the injured list , and was the 24th man last Friday, so would not be surprised to see him on the team list - possibly for the 1872 games.
1 Jamie Bhatti (109)
2 Gregor Hiddleston (15)
3 Zander Fagerson (154)
4 Jare Oguntibeju (1)
5 Scott Cummings (131)
6 Matt Fagerson (117)
7 Rory Darge (53)
8 Henco Venter (26)
9 George Horne (124)
10 Tom Jordan (56)
11 Kyle Rowe (23)
12 Sione Tuipulotu (C) (60)
13 Huw Jones (74)
14 Sebastian Cancelliere (43)
15 Josh McKay (55)
Replacements
16 Johnny Matthews (80)
17 Rory Sutherland (4)
18 Sam Talakai (6)
19 Alex Samuel (21)
20 Ally Miller (30)
21 Jack Mann (2)
22 Jamie Dobie (74)
23 Duncan Weir (153)
Unavailable for selection: Gregor Brown (chest), Facundo Cordero (hamstring), Jack Dempsey (shoulder), Euan Ferrie (foot), Adam Hastings (face), Nathan McBeth (calf), JP du Preez (knee), Kyle Steyn (leg), Sione Vailanu (knee), Murphy Walker (neck), Max Williamson (hand).
Jare played better than Samuel last Friday. Far more impactful.Dogbert wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2024 1:16 pm URC 2024 Champions team for Sale for Saturday.
After the 'B' team win against Scarlets last Friday, Franco goes fully loaded for Sale.
Only real surprise is Jare starting, rather than Samuel ( the cupboard is a bit bare with Gray now in Japan , and JP du Preez , and Williamson on the injury list - though I hear both should be back shortly , Gregor Brown , who also can provide cover at lock - also on the injury list.
Ollie Smith now officially of the injured list , and was the 24th man last Friday, so would not be surprised to see him on the team list - possibly for the 1872 games.
1 Jamie Bhatti (109)
2 Gregor Hiddleston (15)
3 Zander Fagerson (154)
4 Jare Oguntibeju (1)
5 Scott Cummings (131)
6 Matt Fagerson (117)
7 Rory Darge (53)
8 Henco Venter (26)
9 George Horne (124)
10 Tom Jordan (56)
11 Kyle Rowe (23)
12 Sione Tuipulotu (C) (60)
13 Huw Jones (74)
14 Sebastian Cancelliere (43)
15 Josh McKay (55)
Replacements
16 Johnny Matthews (80)
17 Rory Sutherland (4)
18 Sam Talakai (6)
19 Alex Samuel (21)
20 Ally Miller (30)
21 Jack Mann (2)
22 Jamie Dobie (74)
23 Duncan Weir (153)
Unavailable for selection: Gregor Brown (chest), Facundo Cordero (hamstring), Jack Dempsey (shoulder), Euan Ferrie (foot), Adam Hastings (face), Nathan McBeth (calf), JP du Preez (knee), Kyle Steyn (leg), Sione Vailanu (knee), Murphy Walker (neck), Max Williamson (hand).
Either cheekbone or jaw. Have seen both mentioned. He’s had surgery. Will miss 6N, reportedly.inactionman wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2024 2:10 pmFace? Poor sod just cannot catch a break.Dogbert wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2024 1:16 pm URC 2024 Champions team for Sale for Saturday.
After the 'B' team win against Scarlets last Friday, Franco goes fully loaded for Sale.
Only real surprise is Jare starting, rather than Samuel ( the cupboard is a bit bare with Gray now in Japan , and JP du Preez , and Williamson on the injury list - though I hear both should be back shortly , Gregor Brown , who also can provide cover at lock - also on the injury list.
Ollie Smith now officially of the injured list , and was the 24th man last Friday, so would not be surprised to see him on the team list - possibly for the 1872 games.
1 Jamie Bhatti (109)
2 Gregor Hiddleston (15)
3 Zander Fagerson (154)
4 Jare Oguntibeju (1)
5 Scott Cummings (131)
6 Matt Fagerson (117)
7 Rory Darge (53)
8 Henco Venter (26)
9 George Horne (124)
10 Tom Jordan (56)
11 Kyle Rowe (23)
12 Sione Tuipulotu (C) (60)
13 Huw Jones (74)
14 Sebastian Cancelliere (43)
15 Josh McKay (55)
Replacements
16 Johnny Matthews (80)
17 Rory Sutherland (4)
18 Sam Talakai (6)
19 Alex Samuel (21)
20 Ally Miller (30)
21 Jack Mann (2)
22 Jamie Dobie (74)
23 Duncan Weir (153)
Unavailable for selection: Gregor Brown (chest), Facundo Cordero (hamstring), Jack Dempsey (shoulder), Euan Ferrie (foot), Adam Hastings (face), Nathan McBeth (calf), JP du Preez (knee), Kyle Steyn (leg), Sione Vailanu (knee), Murphy Walker (neck), Max Williamson (hand).
Just pulled back to within a point.SomersetJock wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2024 8:56 pm I started out watching the Edinburgh match, got frustrated and despaired at Edinburgh’s handling so turned over to watch Bath. Lasted 10 minutes, Bath are even harder to watch
Thankfully Edinburgh scored just as I got back and seem to have picked up a bit
The storm would explain their maul defence getting blown back 20metres or soinactionman wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2024 9:24 pmJust pulled back to within a point.SomersetJock wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2024 8:56 pm I started out watching the Edinburgh match, got frustrated and despaired at Edinburgh’s handling so turned over to watch Bath. Lasted 10 minutes, Bath are even harder to watch
Thankfully Edinburgh scored just as I got back and seem to have picked up a bit
You've noticed they're playing in a storm?
I thought you were ribbing them for the constant drops! To be honest, you could have picked half a dozen things in that first half.SomersetJock wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2024 9:41 pmThe storm would explain their maul defence getting blown back 20metres or soinactionman wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2024 9:24 pmJust pulled back to within a point.SomersetJock wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2024 8:56 pm I started out watching the Edinburgh match, got frustrated and despaired at Edinburgh’s handling so turned over to watch Bath. Lasted 10 minutes, Bath are even harder to watch
Thankfully Edinburgh scored just as I got back and seem to have picked up a bit
You've noticed they're playing in a storm?
It's true that Glasgow are a much better team at the moment but their forum goers go a bit overboard whenever Edinburgh play like a typical mid-table team.weegie01 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 07, 2024 9:51 am For some reason I can no longer post on the Glasgow Warriors forum, and my messages have not been responded to.
So I can't comment on the fact that the Gloucester Forum is quite complimentary about how a weakened Edinburgh team gave them a scare, the Glasgow forum is replete with 'how awful are Edinburgh' comments.
There's a small subset of Glasgow fans who are a bit dickish tbh.robmatic wrote: ↑Sat Dec 07, 2024 10:35 amIt's true that Glasgow are a much better team at the moment but their forum goers go a bit overboard whenever Edinburgh play like a typical mid-table team.weegie01 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 07, 2024 9:51 am For some reason I can no longer post on the Glasgow Warriors forum, and my messages have not been responded to.
So I can't comment on the fact that the Gloucester Forum is quite complimentary about how a weakened Edinburgh team gave them a scare, the Glasgow forum is replete with 'how awful are Edinburgh' comments.
I didn't see the game but playing the kids and getting a losing bonus point away from home against a full-strength opponent is a decent outcome, I would have thought.
That's strange, I can no longer get onto the shedhead forum, and not being responded to. I'll send a message to Gordon on the weeg forum to see if there is a problem with your login.weegie01 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 07, 2024 9:51 am For some reason I can no longer post on the Glasgow Warriors forum, and my messages have not been responded to.
So I can't comment on the fact that the Gloucester Forum is quite complimentary about how a weakened Edinburgh team gave them a scare, the Glasgow forum is replete with 'how awful are Edinburgh' comments.
Actually only one poster on the Glasgow forum was posting derogatory comments on the Edinburgh performance. All the rest were posting comments on how Edinburgh played OK, considering the conditions and the relatively inexperienced team., The rest of the posts were regarding how poor the Ref was last night.weegie01 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 07, 2024 9:51 am For some reason I can no longer post on the Glasgow Warriors forum, and my messages have not been responded to.
So I can't comment on the fact that the Gloucester Forum is quite complimentary about how a weakened Edinburgh team gave them a scare, the Glasgow forum is replete with 'how awful are Edinburgh' comments.
Hey, it’s not often Glasgow has something to feel superior about.Biffer wrote: ↑Sat Dec 07, 2024 10:57 amThere's a small subset of Glasgow fans who are a bit dickish tbh.robmatic wrote: ↑Sat Dec 07, 2024 10:35 amIt's true that Glasgow are a much better team at the moment but their forum goers go a bit overboard whenever Edinburgh play like a typical mid-table team.weegie01 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 07, 2024 9:51 am For some reason I can no longer post on the Glasgow Warriors forum, and my messages have not been responded to.
So I can't comment on the fact that the Gloucester Forum is quite complimentary about how a weakened Edinburgh team gave them a scare, the Glasgow forum is replete with 'how awful are Edinburgh' comments.
I didn't see the game but playing the kids and getting a losing bonus point away from home against a full-strength opponent is a decent outcome, I would have thought.
To be frank, I'd not noticed that one person had made several derogatory comments, along with a two or three others making singles. So just looking at the posts the impression was that there were many decrying Edinburgh, and few positive. I'll read more carefully in future.Dogbert wrote: ↑Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:27 pmActually only one poster on the Glasgow forum was posting derogatory comments on the Edinburgh performance. All the rest were posting comments on how Edinburgh played OK, considering the conditions and the relatively inexperienced team., The rest of the posts were regarding how poor the Ref was last night.weegie01 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 07, 2024 9:51 am For some reason I can no longer post on the Glasgow Warriors forum, and my messages have not been responded to.
So I can't comment on the fact that the Gloucester Forum is quite complimentary about how a weakened Edinburgh team gave them a scare, the Glasgow forum is replete with 'how awful are Edinburgh' comments.
Wouldn't be a massive shock to see Burke called up too at some point.Yr Alban wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2024 6:36 pmEither cheekbone or jaw. Have seen both mentioned. He’s had surgery. Will miss 6N, reportedly.inactionman wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2024 2:10 pmFace? Poor sod just cannot catch a break.Dogbert wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2024 1:16 pm URC 2024 Champions team for Sale for Saturday.
After the 'B' team win against Scarlets last Friday, Franco goes fully loaded for Sale.
Only real surprise is Jare starting, rather than Samuel ( the cupboard is a bit bare with Gray now in Japan , and JP du Preez , and Williamson on the injury list - though I hear both should be back shortly , Gregor Brown , who also can provide cover at lock - also on the injury list.
Ollie Smith now officially of the injured list , and was the 24th man last Friday, so would not be surprised to see him on the team list - possibly for the 1872 games.
1 Jamie Bhatti (109)
2 Gregor Hiddleston (15)
3 Zander Fagerson (154)
4 Jare Oguntibeju (1)
5 Scott Cummings (131)
6 Matt Fagerson (117)
7 Rory Darge (53)
8 Henco Venter (26)
9 George Horne (124)
10 Tom Jordan (56)
11 Kyle Rowe (23)
12 Sione Tuipulotu (C) (60)
13 Huw Jones (74)
14 Sebastian Cancelliere (43)
15 Josh McKay (55)
Replacements
16 Johnny Matthews (80)
17 Rory Sutherland (4)
18 Sam Talakai (6)
19 Alex Samuel (21)
20 Ally Miller (30)
21 Jack Mann (2)
22 Jamie Dobie (74)
23 Duncan Weir (153)
Unavailable for selection: Gregor Brown (chest), Facundo Cordero (hamstring), Jack Dempsey (shoulder), Euan Ferrie (foot), Adam Hastings (face), Nathan McBeth (calf), JP du Preez (knee), Kyle Steyn (leg), Sione Vailanu (knee), Murphy Walker (neck), Max Williamson (hand).
Handy that Tom Jordan is qualified now. Won’t be an issue for us providing both Russell and Jordan can stay fit. If not… that’s more of an issue.
KingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 07, 2024 9:03 pm Andy Goode desperately hoping the TMO is watching the feed with him on Comms trying to get Cummings a yellow card. It probably was a yellow card though, tbf
I saw it and looked away assuming it was yellow, was quite surprised to check back a few minutes later and not see a wee yellow square on the scoreboardKingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 07, 2024 9:03 pm Andy Goode desperately hoping the TMO is watching the feed with him on Comms trying to get Cummings a yellow card. It probably was a yellow card though, tbf
Ah, the irony. We could call up a NZ-born player with a Scottish grandparent, because we couldn’t persuade the guy with actual Scottish parents, and whose granddad was a Scottish Lion, to throw his lot in with us.Big D wrote: ↑Sat Dec 07, 2024 6:58 pmWouldn't be a massive shock to see Burke called up too at some point.
I’m not sure he’d take the call up. He’s also English qualified, playing for England is a) much more lucrative, b) means you can continue to get good EQ contracts and c) frankly gives you more chance of winning things, current form notwithstanding.Big D wrote: ↑Sat Dec 07, 2024 6:58 pmWouldn't be a massive shock to see Burke called up too at some point.
Stone cold yellow. Ref and TMO were only looking at the other Glasgow player.Slick wrote: ↑Sat Dec 07, 2024 10:32 pmI saw it and looked away assuming it was yellow, was quite surprised to check back a few minutes later and not see a wee yellow square on the scoreboardKingBlairhorn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 07, 2024 9:03 pm Andy Goode desperately hoping the TMO is watching the feed with him on Comms trying to get Cummings a yellow card. It probably was a yellow card though, tbf