NPR

Tichtheid wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:25 am This reminds me of the Robbie Coltrane character Mason Boyne. His wife says that she thinks the Pope is a very nice man, Boyne says, "Pope is just an anagram of the word Epop, I'll give you another four letter word beginning with E - Evil."
"I rest my case"

David in Gwent wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:28 am

Biffer wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:19 am

David in Gwent wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:08 am

The Iraq war was a catalyst and is by no means the only example.

The World was destabilied on purpose but you just don't have the guts to admit it as otherwise the world is just chaos with no meaning or purpose that you recognise.

The world has no meaning or purpose, other than that which we make for ourselves. That last statement of yours confirms what I said - you're so desperate for there to be a purpose you'll believe any old horseshit conspiracy theory. Thanks for confirming that's what you think.

Equally, you're so desperate for order that you can't even allow yourself to think any non-authoritarian thoughts.

Biffer wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:30 am

David in Gwent wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:28 am

Biffer wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:19 am

The world has no meaning or purpose, other than that which we make for ourselves. That last statement of yours confirms what I said - you're so desperate for there to be a purpose you'll believe any old horseshit conspiracy theory. Thanks for confirming that's what you think.

Equally, you're so desperate for order that you can't even allow yourself to think any non-authoritarian thoughts.

In what way am I desperate for order? You're the one who desperately believes in someone being in control.

David in Gwent wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:37 am

Biffer wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:30 am

David in Gwent wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:28 am

Equally, you're so desperate for order that you can't even allow yourself to think any non-authoritarian thoughts.

In what way am I desperate for order? You're the one who desperately believes in someone being in control.

The current order, you found the government's repsonse during Covid comforting (telling you what to do, etc), you find things like going after Net Zero equally comforting. It would blow your mind to pieces if you thought there could be any chance that there was a scam behind any of those examples. This is what I mean by order.

You need that, otherwise everything is lies and chaos.

Biffer wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:41 am

David in Gwent wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:37 am

Biffer wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:30 am

In what way am I desperate for order? You're the one who desperately believes in someone being in control.

The current order, you found the government's repsonse during Covid comforting (telling you what to do, etc), you find things like going after Net Zero equally comforting. It would blow your mind to pieces if you thought there could be any chance that there was a scam behind any of those examples. This is what I mean by order.

You need that, otherwise everything is lies and chaos.

Everything is chaos. The universe is chaotic. We are not in control and never will be. Your examples aren't exactly in line with my thoughts and are just made up - you're projecting what you reckon people who haven't 'wised up' like you think on to me.

You're the one with imaginary cabals controlling things.

David in Gwent wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:46 am

The universe is not chaotic. The Universe is run to precise mathmatical and physical laws.

David in Gwent wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:46 am

Biffer wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:41 am

David in Gwent wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:37 am

The current order, you found the government's repsonse during Covid comforting (telling you what to do, etc), you find things like going after Net Zero equally comforting. It would blow your mind to pieces if you thought there could be any chance that there was a scam behind any of those examples. This is what I mean by order.

You need that, otherwise everything is lies and chaos.

Everything is chaos. The universe is chaotic. We are not in control and never will be. Your examples aren't exactly in line with my thoughts and are just made up - you're projecting what you reckon people who haven't 'wised up' like you think on to me.

You're the one with imaginary cabals controlling things.

The universe is not chaotic. The Universe is run to precise mathmatical and physical laws.

It's not about wising up or thinking "it's the Jews" it's about looking at the evidence presented too us.

Look at the creation of the modern day financial system - built on debt - entirely created to control the masses and benefit the few - correct or not?

Biffer wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:56 am

David in Gwent wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:46 am

Biffer wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:41 am

Everything is chaos. The universe is chaotic. We are not in control and never will be. Your examples aren't exactly in line with my thoughts and are just made up - you're projecting what you reckon people who haven't 'wised up' like you think on to me.

You're the one with imaginary cabals controlling things.

The universe is not chaotic. The Universe is run to precise mathmatical and physical laws.

It's not about wising up or thinking "it's the Jews" it's about looking at the evidence presented too us.

Look at the creation of the modern day financial system - built on debt - entirely created to control the masses and benefit the few - correct or not?

Four sentences. All of them factually wrong.

David in Gwent wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:59 am

Biffer wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:56 am

David in Gwent wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:46 am

The universe is not chaotic. The Universe is run to precise mathmatical and physical laws.

It's not about wising up or thinking "it's the Jews" it's about looking at the evidence presented too us.

Look at the creation of the modern day financial system - built on debt - entirely created to control the masses and benefit the few - correct or not?

Four sentences. All of them factually wrong.

Correct me on the 4th sentence.

Tichtheid wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:56 am

David in Gwent wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:46 am

The universe is not chaotic. The Universe is run to precise mathmatical and physical laws.

It's not, mathematical and physical laws are a human construct used to describe what we observe in terms we can understand. These laws change all the time as we observe more (Biffer will be able to say this much better than I can)

There is no outside phenomena laying down laws

David in Gwent wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:06 pm

Tichtheid wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:56 am

David in Gwent wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:46 am

The universe is not chaotic. The Universe is run to precise mathmatical and physical laws.

It's not, mathematical and physical laws are a human construct used to describe what we observe in terms we can understand. These laws change all the time as we observe more (Biffer will be able to say this much better than I can)

There is no outside phenomena laying down laws

Consciousness is also a human construct, right?

Biffer wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:03 pm

David in Gwent wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:59 am

Biffer wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:56 am

Four sentences. All of them factually wrong.

Correct me on the 4th sentence.

So you accept you're wrong on the first three?

Bottom line, the modern financial system wasn't 'created'. It came to where it is now over several hundred years. Are you suggesting the modern financial system was designed 50 years ago? Or 100? 300?

David in Gwent wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:08 pm

Biffer wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:03 pm

David in Gwent wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:59 am

Correct me on the 4th sentence.

So you accept you're wrong on the first three?

Bottom line, the modern financial system wasn't 'created'. It came to where it is now over several hundred years. Are you suggesting the modern financial system was designed 50 years ago? Or 100? 300?

I'm quite happy to have a conversation on the first two, I'd enjoy it.

Now I'd like you to talk about your view on the modern day financial system, you know, the one based on debt.

Biffer wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:08 pm

David in Gwent wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:06 pm

Tichtheid wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 11:56 am


It's not, mathematical and physical laws are a human construct used to describe what we observe in terms we can understand. These laws change all the time as we observe more (Biffer will be able to say this much better than I can)

There is no outside phenomena laying down laws

Consciousness is also a human construct, right?

We don't know what consciousness is. If you're going to pretend you do, you are, again, talking bullshit.

But hey, keep changing the topic any time someone points out you're talking shite.

Biffer wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:09 pm

David in Gwent wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:08 pm

Biffer wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:03 pm

So you accept you're wrong on the first three?

Bottom line, the modern financial system wasn't 'created'. It came to where it is now over several hundred years. Are you suggesting the modern financial system was designed 50 years ago? Or 100? 300?

I'm quite happy to have a conversation on the first two, I'd enjoy it.

Now I'd like you to talk about your view on the modern day financial system, you know, the one based on debt.

You'll need to say when you think it was created first.

David in Gwent wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:15 pm

Biffer wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:09 pm

David in Gwent wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:08 pm

I'm quite happy to have a conversation on the first two, I'd enjoy it.

Now I'd like you to talk about your view on the modern day financial system, you know, the one based on debt.

You'll need to say when you think it was created first.

The 1800's with the start of the Central Bank system.

Over to you.

Biffer wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:23 pm

David in Gwent wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:15 pm

Biffer wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:09 pm

You'll need to say when you think it was created first.

The 1800's with the start of the Central Bank system.

Over to you.

So you think something we're using now was designed in the early 1800s with some kind of idea of what the world would look like today? They knew we'd have advanced computing to create the financial tools that are used in markets now? They saw democratisation and the upsurge in property ownership 150-200 years before it happened and put in place a system to maximise the debt people took on to do it? They envisaged lending sums four or five times bigger than their salary to the working classes who were running industrial machinery in their factories? Understood that there'd be a disposable society financed by short term debt where people would want the latest electronic device so would keep themselves in hock permanently to get new, new, new all the time? Predicted the invention of the motor car and the way car financing would work to do the same?

Biffer wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:28 pm Waits for another goalpost shift from DAC.

David in Gwent wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:39 pm

Biffer wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:28 pm Waits for another goalpost shift from DAC.

Give a previous one?

David in Gwent wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:38 pm

Biffer wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:23 pm

David in Gwent wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:15 pm

The 1800's with the start of the Central Bank system.

Over to you.

So you think something we're using now was designed in the early 1800s with some kind of idea of what the world would look like today? They knew we'd have advanced computing to create the financial tools that are used in markets now? They saw democratisation and the upsurge in property ownership 150-200 years before it happened and put in place a system to maximise the debt people took on to do it? They envisaged lending sums four or five times bigger than their salary to the working classes who were running industrial machinery in their factories? Understood that there'd be a disposable society financed by short term debt where people would want the latest electronic device so would keep themselves in hock permanently to get new, new, new all the time? Predicted the invention of the motor car and the way car financing would work to do the same?

You asked for a starting point, I gave you one.

Is it a scam or not?

Biffer wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:40 pm

David in Gwent wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:38 pm

Biffer wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:23 pm

So you think something we're using now was designed in the early 1800s with some kind of idea of what the world would look like today? They knew we'd have advanced computing to create the financial tools that are used in markets now? They saw democratisation and the upsurge in property ownership 150-200 years before it happened and put in place a system to maximise the debt people took on to do it? They envisaged lending sums four or five times bigger than their salary to the working classes who were running industrial machinery in their factories? Understood that there'd be a disposable society financed by short term debt where people would want the latest electronic device so would keep themselves in hock permanently to get new, new, new all the time? Predicted the invention of the motor car and the way car financing would work to do the same?

You asked for a starting point, I gave you one.

Is it a scam or not?

Is what a scam? The banking system from 1800?

Or just you, trolling around and wasting people's time? That's the most obvious scam here

Alternatively you should consider the scam is these conspiracy theories you've dug yourself into. But you're so deep into them now that you'll never get out.

Biffer wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:40 pm

David in Gwent wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:39 pm

Biffer wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:28 pm Waits for another goalpost shift from DAC.

Give a previous one?

You've gone from the Iraq War to the banking system over 200 years ago.

David in Gwent wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:48 pm

Biffer wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:40 pm

David in Gwent wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:39 pm

Give a previous one?

You've gone from the Iraq War to the banking system over 200 years ago.

Comprehension really isn't your strong point is it son?

laurent wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:49 pm Whoever stole his Potato peeling utensil should give it back to him.

yermum wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:49 pm Capital formation in the late 1700s was obviously a scam. The entire funding of the Industrial Revolution was actually a long term plan by the Rothschild banking dynasty to usher in a secret cabal of shadow bankers to control the west through finance and space lasers

Sandstorm wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 1:06 pm My mate is Head of IT projects at Rothschild and he has assured me that they currently have no spare headcount to try to take control of the global Digital Currency market at this time.

Biffer wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:50 pm

David in Gwent wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:48 pm

Biffer wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:40 pm

You've gone from the Iraq War to the banking system over 200 years ago.

Comprehension really isn't your strong point is it son?

says the one who's deep into utter nonsense.

Sandstorm wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 1:06 pm My mate is Head of IT projects at Rothschild and he has assured me that they currently have no spare headcount to try to take control of the global Digital Currency market at this time.

David in Gwent wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 1:43 pm

Biffer wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:50 pm

David in Gwent wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:48 pm

Comprehension really isn't your strong point is it son?

says the one who's deep into utter nonsense.

None of what I've said is utter nonsense and is all entirely plausible.

Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 1:52 pm

David in Gwent wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 1:43 pm

Biffer wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 12:50 pm

says the one who's deep into utter nonsense.

None of what I've said is utter nonsense and is all entirely plausible.

Plausible isn't to be equated with truth in such casual, and frankly weird, manner

yermum wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 2:50 pm Just say it’s the Jews you are flirting so hard with the antisemitic tropes.

International banking conspiracies

Media control

Just needs a cultural Marxism thrown in for the full house