NPR

ScarfaceClaw wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:04 pm NZ wilting like a thin bit of cheese under the grill.

Rinkals wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:12 pm Rob Key was a bit disparaging about the NZ attack in the first England innings, and though I thought he was being very unfair at the time, it really does seem that they don't have the bowlers to take twenty wickets.

England really should have won this but I don't see NZ getting into this good a position again. I can easily see England winning the rest of the games this series.

ScarfaceClaw wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:10 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:56 am Anyway, good article about the nonsense that is English cricket: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/ ... es-cricket

Also mentions how the first thing Silverwood did with Archer was make him bowl 42 overs in an innings, and under Silverwood he's averaging 43 with the ball...

He’s got a good point about the vagueness and half hearted approach in this series. While NZ are number one in the rankings they are nowhere near the best team in the world. What sort of statement would it have been for England if they walked out with an absolute swagger and treated NZ with disdain. Smash them at every turn and walk out of the series pointing at Aus saying you’re next.

Instead they’ve not really pushed anything. As the article says, it’s a warm up match/net session approach.

Certain Navigator wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:06 pm

ScarfaceClaw wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:10 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:56 am Anyway, good article about the nonsense that is English cricket: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/ ... es-cricket

Also mentions how the first thing Silverwood did with Archer was make him bowl 42 overs in an innings, and under Silverwood he's averaging 43 with the ball...

He’s got a good point about the vagueness and half hearted approach in this series. While NZ are number one in the rankings they are nowhere near the best team in the world. What sort of statement would it have been for England if they walked out with an absolute swagger and treated NZ with disdain. Smash them at every turn and walk out of the series pointing at Aus saying you’re next.

Instead they’ve not really pushed anything. As the article says, it’s a warm up match/net session approach.

So what is the "best team"? Can't be Oz (beaten by India at home). Can't be India (smashed by NZ away). Certainly not England (currently being smashed at home by the NZ B team).

Certain Navigator wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:02 pm

Rinkals wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:12 pm Rob Key was a bit disparaging about the NZ attack in the first England innings, and though I thought he was being very unfair at the time, it really does seem that they don't have the bowlers to take twenty wickets.

England really should have won this but I don't see NZ getting into this good a position again. I can easily see England winning the rest of the games this series.

Not one of the great predictions...

ScarfaceClaw wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:06 pm

Certain Navigator wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:06 pm

ScarfaceClaw wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:10 pm

He’s got a good point about the vagueness and half hearted approach in this series. While NZ are number one in the rankings they are nowhere near the best team in the world. What sort of statement would it have been for England if they walked out with an absolute swagger and treated NZ with disdain. Smash them at every turn and walk out of the series pointing at Aus saying you’re next.

Instead they’ve not really pushed anything. As the article says, it’s a warm up match/net session approach.

So what is the "best team"? Can't be Oz (beaten by India at home). Can't be India (smashed by NZ away). Certainly not England (currently being smashed at home by the NZ B team).

I’d have India, Australia, England and Sefrica all ahead of NZ as world test teams.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 7:25 am

?? England and SA are in a sorry state.

ScarfaceClaw wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:06 pm

Certain Navigator wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:06 pm

ScarfaceClaw wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:10 pm

He’s got a good point about the vagueness and half hearted approach in this series. While NZ are number one in the rankings they are nowhere near the best team in the world. What sort of statement would it have been for England if they walked out with an absolute swagger and treated NZ with disdain. Smash them at every turn and walk out of the series pointing at Aus saying you’re next.

Instead they’ve not really pushed anything. As the article says, it’s a warm up match/net session approach.

So what is the "best team"? Can't be Oz (beaten by India at home). Can't be India (smashed by NZ away). Certainly not England (currently being smashed at home by the NZ B team).

I’d have India, Australia, England and Sefrica all ahead of NZ as world test teams.

Certain Navigator wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:02 pm

Rinkals wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:12 pm Rob Key was a bit disparaging about the NZ attack in the first England innings, and though I thought he was being very unfair at the time, it really does seem that they don't have the bowlers to take twenty wickets.

England really should have won this but I don't see NZ getting into this good a position again. I can easily see England winning the rest of the games this series.

Not one of the great predictions...

Gumboot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:03 am These small chases can sometimes be tricky...

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:08 am NZ will get it in about 5 overs.

ScarfaceClaw wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:12 am England should give everyone an over bowling. Open with Bracey.

Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:07 am So what do we reckon - coast home with maybe 1 falling. Or NZ to give us a ride being 20 for 5 after 20 overs.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:15 am

ScarfaceClaw wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:12 am England should give everyone an over bowling. Open with Bracey.

They don't want to shame him any further by having someone else be a better keeper.

ScarfaceClaw wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:19 am

Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:07 am So what do we reckon - coast home with maybe 1 falling. Or NZ to give us a ride being 20 for 5 after 20 overs.

There’s the one down. FFS NZ.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:15 am

ScarfaceClaw wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:12 am England should give everyone an over bowling. Open with Bracey.

They don't want to shame him any further by having someone else be a better keeper.

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:38 am I think we may have left our bowlers with just a bit too much to do...