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Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:20 pm
by KingBlairhorn
Wtf Russell

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:21 pm
by charltom
Forgot to say. I couldn;t understand why Jonny Gray was pinged for offside in the first half. Did Dickson just think "how did he get there so fast?" He never seems to have the same thought about the off-sider Italian backline.

Finn is definitely Italy's MotM so far BTW.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:21 pm
by Slick
KingBlairhorn wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:20 pm Wtf Russell
Looks lost without Seone

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:21 pm
by Punter15
Punter15 wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 2:47 pm Finn being a bit Finn today
As I was saying

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:21 pm
by S/Lt_Phillips
Here we go. Ah well, was fun while it lasted

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:22 pm
by Slick
Kinghorn has been superb under the high ones today

Would like to see him run with a bit more purpose from the back though

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:22 pm
by Blackmac
We really never fail to disappoint in these styles of games. Absolute shitshow from the half backs so far.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:27 pm
by Slick
That turnover was a joke

I’m not sure if it’s the team not trusting McDowall or if it’s him losing concentration but he keeps popping up in really odd positions and ending up out of position

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:27 pm
by Begbie
The predictable bed shitting. Fuckin tedious.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:30 pm
by KingBlairhorn
Keep the heid lads, 25 mins to go here and Italy, despite the popular narrative, are not shit.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:38 pm
by Blackmac
KingBlairhorn wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:30 pm Keep the heid lads, 25 mins to go here and Italy, despite the popular narrative, are not shit.
Right. Screw the nut and put this to bed.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:39 pm
by KingBlairhorn
Got to love a Darcy Graham clean break.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:42 pm
by charltom
Slick wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:22 pm Kinghorn has been superb under the high ones today
He really has.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:42 pm
by robmatic
Kinghorn has been great under the high ball.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:43 pm
by KingBlairhorn
charltom wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:42 pm
Slick wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:22 pm Kinghorn has been superb under the high ones today
He really has.
He’s such a big man, and so athletic. Combined that with good technique and he should be very hard to beat.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:43 pm
by KingBlairhorn
By my count that try puts jones level with Chris Paterson.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:51 pm
by Blackmac
Christ. It's like we were playing touch for that initial Italian attack. Just fell off tackle after tackle.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 3:55 pm
by KingBlairhorn
During our worst period Scotland seemed often to suffer from thinking they couldn’t win. This team seem to suffer from thinking they’ve already won.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 4:00 pm
by Slick
Jordan has been very good since he came on.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 4:03 pm
by KingBlairhorn
A bit shoogly at times but it was a 12 point 5 tries to one victory. And the 1 was a stupid freebee. Italy didn’t look like scoring to me until the final 10 minutes, and we still kept them out. Job done for me.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 4:07 pm
by Blackmac
Zander, Cherry, Darge, Jones, Graham and Kinghorn outstanding. Gray, Duhan and Gilchrist decent.
Horne and Jordan a huge improvement over White and Stafford. Good to see Dempsey back.
Russell just had one of those games.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 4:08 pm
by S/Lt_Phillips
Slick wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 4:00 pm Jordan has been very good since he came on.
I'd be happy to see him start next week. McDowall was solid in defence in the first half, but didn't seem to add much in attack - Jordan offers more for me

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 4:10 pm
by Slick
KingBlairhorn wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 4:03 pm A bit shoogly at times but it was a 12 point 5 tries to one victory. And the 1 was a stupid freebee. Italy didn’t look like scoring to me until the final 10 minutes, and we still kept them out. Job done for me.
Very obviously missed Seone and Finn had an off day. Forwards did well against a very decent pack. It all got very Scottish for a while but a win and move on

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 4:11 pm
by charltom
S/Lt_Phillips wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 4:08 pm
Slick wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 4:00 pm Jordan has been very good since he came on.
I'd be happy to see him start next week. McDowall was solid in defence in the first half, but didn't seem to add much in attack - Jordan offers more for me
Definitely. With Hutch on the bench perhaps.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 4:11 pm
by Slick
S/Lt_Phillips wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 4:08 pm
Slick wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 4:00 pm Jordan has been very good since he came on.
I'd be happy to see him start next week. McDowall was solid in defence in the first half, but didn't seem to add much in attack - Jordan offers more for me
McDowall just looked a bit lost. Not sure if it was just not clicking with Finn or this is just too much of a step up. I think probably a bit of both

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 4:14 pm
by Yr Alban
FFS Scotland, this is why I have trust issues!

I haven’t watched it yet, but how Scotland is it to make a start like that and then fall off and let the opposition back into the game?

At the end of the day, solid BP win. Italy really aren’t whipping boys any more - lest we forget, last season they beat us, beat Wales away, drew with France in Paris (missing a kick for the win at the death) and lost to England by 3.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 4:46 pm
by clydecloggie
Italy are a proper side, do not judge this result by the same yardstick we've used for Italy games in the past. apart from the first 15 after the break, that was a mature performance in both defence and attack.

Those 15 minutes need to go when the Irish come next week, though.

Jordan for McDowall would make sense to me; the way Jordan played as a second distributor and kicker worked really well I thought.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 4:52 pm
by I like neeps
Actually quite a positive performance. Finn was shocking throughout but we cut Italy to shreds anyway. Defence was superb.

Discipline, awful.

McDowell isn't a test player, Jordan must start. Cherry, the backrow, Jones, Kinghorn and White superb.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 4:58 pm
by KingBlairhorn
I like neeps wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 4:52 pm

McDowell isn't a test player,
I don’t disagree with your conclusion (Jordan to start next week) but I do disagree with this. McDowall has shown his class plenty times before. He wasn’t great but he was playing outside White and Russell, both of whom were well below their usual standards. It was a tough gig.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:06 pm
by I like neeps
KingBlairhorn wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 4:58 pm
I like neeps wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 4:52 pm

McDowell isn't a test player,
I don’t disagree with your conclusion (Jordan to start next week) but I do disagree with this. McDowall has shown his class plenty times before. He wasn’t great but he was playing outside White and Russell, both of whom were well below their usual standards. It was a tough gig.
Not at test level he hasn't, good club player, not a test match animal. Not a dynamic enough carrier, sharp skills but not quite international class skills.

White played well, his kicking was superb. His service was fine baring one shocker.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:37 pm
by Blackmac
I like neeps wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 4:52 pm Actually quite a positive performance. Finn was shocking throughout but we cut Italy to shreds anyway. Defence was superb.

Discipline, awful.

McDowell isn't a test player, Jordan must start. Cherry, the backrow, Jones, Kinghorn and White superb.
I thought White had his poorest game. Kicking was poor and threw a number of slack/high passes that put the receiver on the back foot.

Not sure what to make of Ritchie's performance. He barely registered with me.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:50 pm
by KingBlairhorn
I like neeps wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:06 pm
KingBlairhorn wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 4:58 pm
I like neeps wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 4:52 pm

McDowell isn't a test player,
I don’t disagree with your conclusion (Jordan to start next week) but I do disagree with this. McDowall has shown his class plenty times before. He wasn’t great but he was playing outside White and Russell, both of whom were well below their usual standards. It was a tough gig.
Not at test level he hasn't, good club player, not a test match animal. Not a dynamic enough carrier, sharp skills but not quite international class skills.

White played well, his kicking was superb. His service was fine baring one shocker.
Yes he has. He was very good against Ireland last year for instance.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:00 pm
by westport
Sione says on the Big Jim interview that he wants to be back playing in 12 weeks, others are saying it could be longer.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:43 pm
by Slick
You know already that the jammy bonus point at the end there is going to be the difference between us in the final table

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:50 pm
by Simian
Slick wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:43 pm You know already that the jammy bonus point at the end there is going to be the difference between us in the final table
yup. just said the same.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:54 pm
by Blackmac
In two oddly mediocre games I think the positive is that Shoey, Zander, Darge, Jones, Graham and Kinghorn did more to advance their Lions claim than any other player. Only impressive individual performances in the other game were Lawrence and Beirne.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:58 pm
by SaintK
Blackmac wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:54 pm In two oddly mediocre games I think the positive is that Shoey, Zander, Darge, Jones, Graham and Kinghorn did more to advance their Lions claim than any other player. Only impressive individual performances in the other game were Lawrence and Beirne.
Dan Sheehan says hi!
Great cameo off the bench on his first game back

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 7:09 pm
by Blackmac
SaintK wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:58 pm
Blackmac wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:54 pm In two oddly mediocre games I think the positive is that Shoey, Zander, Darge, Jones, Graham and Kinghorn did more to advance their Lions claim than any other player. Only impressive individual performances in the other game were Lawrence and Beirne.
Dan Sheehan says hi!
Great cameo off the bench on his first game back
Yeah, good shout. A lot of the Irish pack still in the hot seats but I think Shoey and especially Fagerson are now looking strong.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 7:29 pm
by Tichtheid
Tom Stoltman on the pitch at Murrayfield was a sense of a missed opportunity.

Give it to Big Tam, let him trundle 50m up the park, pinging tiddly wee 17 stone backrowers off like toddlers and let loose the backs

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:28 pm
by Blackmac
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 7:29 pm Tom Stoltman on the pitch at Murrayfield was a sense of a missed opportunity.

Give it to Big Tam, let him trundle 50m up the park, pinging tiddly wee 17 stone backrowers off like toddlers and let loose the backs
I said that at the time. Just tell him when the weight of the ten tacklers hanging on gets too much for him to make sure he presents the ball on the correct side.