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Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 3:58 pm
by tabascoboy
PornDog wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 2:23 pm
The train could just be a happy coincidence though.
Yes albeit one helluva fortunate coincidence - although rail traffic might be frequent enough to make it fair odds
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 4:24 pm
by fishfoodie
tabascoboy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 3:58 pm
PornDog wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 2:23 pm
The train could just be a happy coincidence though.
Yes albeit one helluva fortunate coincidence - although rail traffic might be frequent enough to make it fair odds
Trains also run to a schedule, but even then, your timing is going to have to be very good, when the you're moving a say 100kph, & the train could be going at the same speed .
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 6:20 pm
by PornDog
tabascoboy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 3:58 pm
PornDog wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 2:23 pm
The train could just be a happy coincidence though.
Yes albeit one helluva fortunate coincidence -
although rail traffic might be frequent enough to make it fair odds
that and add in a bit of observation and you could certainly work it to increase the odds slightly in your favour, but I'm not convinced it goes anything beyond that
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 6:23 pm
by Raggs
Surely the railway would have been the primary target? Isn't that how a lot of logistics are getting into/through Ukraine.
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 6:27 pm
by PornDog
Raggs wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 6:23 pm
Surely the railway would have been the primary target? Isn't that how a lot of logistics are getting into/through Ukraine.
Probably the preferred target, but you have to take your opportunities as they come.
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 8:13 pm
by tabascoboy
Russian Milbloggers in trouble
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 9:08 pm
by fishfoodie
This is really significant, & just shows what a load of horseshit putain is spouting, when he says he'll launch no more strikes.
The Kalibr is probably their best cruise missile, & comes in multiple versions for Land, Sea, & Air, but they are now all so depleted, that they are having to use the most expensive, & rarest of them to blowup playgrounds, & electrical substations, & generally terrorise civilians.
The Orcs expended hundreds of millions of dollars or ordinance, to kill a couple of dozen civilians, & temporarily turn off power to many others; all because putain, was embarrassed with his bridge getting blown up !
The Orcs, right now, have almost zero ability to carry out precision strikes, apart from what they can reach with slow, suicide drones. They've also probably shot so many rounds from their tube artillery, that until they replace the barrels, they'll be lucky to drop a shell within a hundred meters of where they aim, & the only way to hit something, it to fire 10x the rounds you have & hope for the best. So they've no counter-battery, no deep strike, & precision attack of note.
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 9:26 pm
by Wyndham Upalot
Calculon wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 7:18 am
Wyndham Upalot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 8:54 pm
This weekend, albeit not officially recorded, substantial ordinance plus a/d will be delivered. Plain terms, not a leveller but, numerically a significant force multiplier.
Has Ukraine received atacms?
Imminent
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 3:57 pm
by Uncle fester
Super photo.
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 8:18 pm
by tabascoboy
Russia mobilized Jihadis?
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 8:36 pm
by SilentBob
Just shows how f'd up everything is that this is good news
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 8:49 pm
by fishfoodie
Well when your life expectancy is measured in days ....
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2022 12:38 am
by Niegs
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2022 1:52 pm
by TB63
65,000 killed...for what?..
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2022 4:41 pm
by tabascoboy
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:08 pm
by Niegs
tabascoboy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 8:18 pm
Russia mobilized Jihadis?
No guarantee that this is true but one account I read suggested there was a spat over an officer calling this a holy war and then insulting Islam. Melee between two groups of mobiks ensues. Later, they shot him (and others) during a live fire exercise as revenge for the slight / fight.
Whatever the truth, it's yet another bizarre incident in this madness!
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:04 pm
by tabascoboy
Karma? Would be just that if it's one of the bombers they've been using to launch missiles into UA
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:21 pm
by fishfoodie
Remember what I said about their tube artillary being shot to shit ?
although I'm not sure about the commanders solution to the problem
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 6:14 pm
by Niegs
Another large-scale exchange of prisoners was carried out today. Emotional and truly special - we freed 108 women from captivity.
Mothers and daughters were in captivity, and their relatives were waiting for them.
37 evacuees from Azovstal, 11 officers, 85 privates and sergeants.
Now all the girls will undergo a medical examination and rehabilitation. They will hug their relatives, their children, recover. Thank you for the excellent work of the Coordinating Staff on the Treatment of Prisoners of War and everyone involved.
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:29 pm
by Uncle fester
Might need a separate thread for tasty Ukrainian soldiers.
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:34 pm
by Uncle fester
Good that on the Iranian drones.
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:43 pm
by fishfoodie
Get the Israelis to setup Iron Dome systems around Kyiv, & other major cities.
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 5:43 pm
by tabascoboy
Still seems to be pretty much radio silence about current operations from either side, Russian's still attacking Bakhmut and getting nowhere. Their plane that dive bombed their own city the other day and killed at least 13
was confirmed to be an SU-34. Headlines still revolving mainly around indiscriminate drone and missile attack on cities from Russia while they expect shit to go down around Kherson.
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:53 pm
by Uncle fester
Ukraine better win this war before the republicans get back in.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... dApp_Other
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:23 pm
by tabascoboy
Rumours ( as ever, rumours ) that the Security Council of Russia could introduce nationwide Martial Law at a meeting tomorrow. Think they may be concerned about the effect the loss of control of Kherson city might have, and some ambiguous announcements about making "hard decisions". Let's hope they don't do something utterly stupid - Defence Secretary Ben Wallace is in Washington to discuss "shared security concerns".
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:38 pm
by Uncle fester
Nuke on Dnieper dam maybe?
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:54 pm
by fishfoodie
I believe that dam supplies all the water to Crimea, so I doubt that'll happen; but the Orcs must know that it represents a target for the Ukranians, & they might continue their scorched earth attacks, & blow it ?
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:00 pm
by Uncle fester
Apparently it'll flood the land on the Russian side, rather than the Ukrainian side. Would it make a river crossing more difficult for Ukraine I wonder?
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:07 pm
by fishfoodie
Uncle fester wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:00 pm
Apparently it'll flood the land on the Russian side, rather than the Ukrainian side. Would it make a river crossing more difficult for Ukraine I wonder?
that makes sense, but they'd be cutting the throats of all of the Orcs to the west of the Dnipro; & if the flood the low lands, the river will go down further upstream, making crossing much easier.
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:07 am
by tabascoboy
Seems more likely that when rather than if Russia withdraw from the city of Kherson, they will set up a massive conventional artillery and missile barrage to level the city with the UA troops within, this is their default "strategy" after all.
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:37 am
by laurent
tabascoboy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:07 am
Seems more likely that when rather than if Russia withdraw from the city of Kherson, they will set up a massive conventional artillery and missile barrage to level the city with the UA troops within, this is their default "strategy" after all.
They have done this on the border for months and all freed area.
Not sure there is a way out of this mess untill the current russian power structure is in place.
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:05 am
by Uncle fester
BBC News - Ukraine war: Russia begins evacuation from Kherson in south
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63311744
Could just be human shields to cover their retreat.
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:18 am
by fishfoodie
tabascoboy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:07 am
Seems more likely that when rather than if Russia withdraw from the city of Kherson, they will set up a massive conventional artillery and missile barrage to level the city with the UA troops within, this is their default "strategy" after all.
I don't see how they can hope to achieve this.
Their artillery is lucky to get a round within a couple of hundred meters of its target; so what you say, they just throw more rounds at the target; but to do that, you have to leave your guns sitting in the same spot, & run logistics to that spot, with a continuous line of trucks bring ammo.
If they do that the Ukrainians will kill them all, & blow up the ammo dumps, on the other end of those trucks journeys !
The Orcs only sustainable use of towed artillery is shoot & scoot, otherwise they die, unless they achieve air supremacy, & I don't think even Putin is that crazy.
Missiles you say, what missiles ? There's increasing evidence they're running out of any with the accuracy required, & the ones they have, they're wasting on scorched earth targets.
I think the Orcs are shortening their lines for the winter, & are trying to make it as unpleasant as possible for the civilians, maybe force Kyiv to settle.
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:44 am
by tabascoboy
fishfoodie wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:18 am
tabascoboy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:07 am
Seems more likely that when rather than if Russia withdraw from the city of Kherson, they will set up a massive conventional artillery and missile barrage to level the city with the UA troops within, this is their default "strategy" after all.
I don't see how they can hope to achieve this.
Their artillery is lucky to get a round within a couple of hundred meters of its target; so what you say, they just throw more rounds at the target; but to do that, you have to leave your guns sitting in the same spot, & run logistics to that spot, with a continuous line of trucks bring ammo.
If they do that the Ukrainians will kill them all, & blow up the ammo dumps, on the other end of those trucks journeys !
The Orcs only sustainable use of towed artillery is shoot & scoot, otherwise they die, unless they achieve air supremacy, & I don't think even Putin is that crazy.
Missiles you say, what missiles ? There's increasing evidence they're running out of any with the accuracy required, & the ones they have, they're wasting on scorched earth targets.
I think the Orcs are shortening their lines for the winter, & are trying to make it as unpleasant as possible for the civilians, maybe force Kyiv to settle.
As Uncle Fester said, you have to factor in using human shields - plus what Russia hopes to do and what they actually are capable of are different things. They show little capability of changing tactics and agreed they are running out of options anyway as they keep using up resources they can't quickly replace thanks to logistical problems.
Reckon they don't care too much for accuracy as we keep seeing, just send suicide drones and non precision missiles/rockets to terrorise with the unpredictability of landings simply adding to the general fear factor. UA will slowly be getting more air defence, which will help of course and hopefully without too much delay. The immediate priority for RU is to try and make access to Crimea for UA forces too costly and difficult.
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:56 pm
by tabascoboy
tabascoboy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:23 pm
Rumours ( as ever, rumours ) that the Security Council of Russia could introduce nationwide Martial Law at a meeting tomorrow. Think they may be concerned about the effect the loss of control of Kherson city might have, and some ambiguous announcements about making "hard decisions". Let's hope they don't do something utterly stupid - Defence Secretary Ben Wallace is in Washington to discuss "shared security concerns".
Well it just turned out to be Martial Law for the illegally annexed territories
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:14 pm
by Uncle fester
tabascoboy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:56 pm
tabascoboy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:23 pm
Rumours ( as ever, rumours ) that the Security Council of Russia could introduce nationwide Martial Law at a meeting tomorrow. Think they may be concerned about the effect the loss of control of Kherson city might have, and some ambiguous announcements about making "hard decisions". Let's hope they don't do something utterly stupid - Defence Secretary Ben Wallace is in Washington to discuss "shared security concerns".
Well it just turned out to be Martial Law for the illegally annexed territories
"The people have spoken" "The people will no longer be allowed speak"
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 5:33 pm
by fishfoodie
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 6:12 pm
by Niegs
I love those classic art imagined depictions of a bunch of soldiers standing around or fighting or mourning.
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:02 pm
by tabascoboy
And they still have the brass neck to try and pin Mariupol destruction on Ukraine...
Re: What's going on in Ukraine?
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:18 am
by tabascoboy
News blackout continues, but rumours abound that life in occupied Kherson north of the river and northern Zaporizhzhia is getting uncomfortable for the invaders