NPR

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 6:24 pm

Bimboh wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 6:15 pm


Maybe, I fairly sure if we’d given the care sector what would have seemed unlimited funds in March we would have saved 25,000 deaths and 300 billion quid.

Doubtful. We didn’t know how to treat elderly patients with Covid in March.

yermum wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:18 pm

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:33 pm

Boris Johnson: "There is nothing more frustrating for the vast majority, the law-abiding majority that do comply. Then the sight of a few brazenly defying the rules."

but at the same time we love freedom too much to follow the rules...

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:17 pm

eldanielfire wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:32 am

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:33 am The problem with initial testing wasn’t that PHE was sidelined it was they resisted at PHE all private sector help .... that lasted months .

PHE totally at fault .

PHE is trash, but The Government has been hugely flawed in this awarding contracts to clueless friends rather than those in the business. It's no coincidence that posters here pointed out the most COVID infected area of Australia got that way through a private contracts where other states used the public sector and didn't.

And yet private providers did fine in Germany and Switzerland.

Carter's Choice wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:16 pm Reports in the Australian media today that the UK is entering a 2nd wave. Stay safe boets

Interestingly, these reports are in the same media that has been demanding that Australian states ease restrictions for months. So I guess governments are damned either way?

Biffer wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:11 am

robmatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:26 am

CM11 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:14 am

I don't disagree.

Unfortunately we panicked people so much (rightly so) that they are fixated on numbers and aren't really factoring in the increased ability to catch cases so we get headlines like 'most cases since April!!!!!!!' without much explanation that it's not comparable.

We are not really being helped by the media.

I've known quite a few journalists and most of them are pretty clueless when it comes to numbers, unfortunately.

Also true of politicians. Last time I checked there were 5 out of 650 MPs at Westminster who had a STEM degree.

Just checked and it’s changed a fair amount, it’s twenty something now. But that’s still shockingly low.

ASMO wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:14 pm A 20k fine and some jailtime would not be excessive

Glaston wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:56 pm

ASMO wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:14 pm A 20k fine and some jailtime would not be excessive

I did think something similar but thought maybe I was being a bit mean.


I dont understand what is going on overall. Its like some people have forgotten the last 7 months and couldnt care less about the consequnces.
Looking at the younger generation here.

Wash hands, wear a mask, social distance. If you do that it, shouldnt spread .


Came across a Twitch stream of Swedish girls in Italy just totally not giving a monkeys

Yeah yeah, lol Swedish girls on Twitch

It was a random thing

Enzedder wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:34 pm Well shit - wanna poor more fear onto me?

A new study of more than one million people suggests those with a certain blood type are less at risk of contracting Covid-19 than others.

The study of 1.05 million participants over four months, published on medrxiv.org, has found people with O-type blood may be less susceptible to contracting coronavirus.

The results have not been peer reviewed.

The study is based on research results from personal genomics and biotechnology company 23andMe, which conducted the work this year. So probably means I am safe. Phew

It found people with O-type blood appear to be at a lower risk of being infected and also are less likely to have a severe case of the disease.

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:33 pm

(Btw masks are a placebo ).

Hong Kong wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:59 pm

eldanielfire wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:28 am

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:33 pm

(Btw masks are a placebo ).

So you think people wearing a mask will not spread infection only because they believe it? FFS!

Slick wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:03 pm Cathy Newman on C4 news really can be shite. Desperately trying to get 3 experts to disagree with each other but all 3 started almost every reply with “we are all agreed on this” but still she thrashed.

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:34 am

eldanielfire wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:28 am

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:33 pm

(Btw masks are a placebo ).

So you think people wearing a mask will not spread infection only because they believe it? FFS!

Erm, the meaning of placebo was cleared up a while ago. Try and keep up.

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:34 am

eldanielfire wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:28 am

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:33 pm

(Btw masks are a placebo ).

So you think people wearing a mask will not spread infection only because they believe it? FFS!

Erm, the meaning of placebo was cleared up a while ago. Try and keep up.

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:01 am Thread.

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:38 am

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:01 am Thread.

Yasy..................you win again

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:45 am

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:38 am

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:01 am Thread.

Yay..................you win again

An odd response to an alternate view.

Unless you think we will have a successful vaccine fairly soon another approach to “lockdowns” is going to have to be taken.

yermum wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:03 pm A Colleague of mine that works with a pro cycling team told me that they had less illness and stomach issues than any other three week tours.

Usually by the third week half the riders and the support staff have the shits or are coming down with illness.

She put it down to mask usage, infection control and social distancing. Obviously placebo is a powerful thing.

yermum wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:03 pm A Colleague of mine that works with a pro cycling team told me that they had less illness and stomach issues than any other three week tours.

Usually by the third week half the riders and the support staff have the shits or are coming down with illness.

She put it down to mask usage, infection control and social distancing. Obviously placebo is a powerful thing.

yermum wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:39 pm Norovirus can be spread through coughing or sneezing.

Saint wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:11 pm Even if masks were shown to do nothing other than provide a permanent reminder to do the social distancing thing they're worthwhile. The only real risk is if they provide a false sense of security - but fortunately the data shows that if both parties are wearing a mask then there's a significant reduction in transmission

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:49 pmYou prefaced your post with "Thread"
So was working on the basis that you thought the thread was done and dusted and your argument had won
No vaccine until next Spring at a guess and another lockdown at some stage this year also at a guess

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:08 pm So a friend sold some stuff on Gumtree. The guy who bought it said “I’ve got Covid, but do you mind if I pop over and collect it today?”

When she said no, he started to get abusive and threaten her. WTF.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:08 pm

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:08 pm So a friend sold some stuff on Gumtree. The guy who bought it said “I’ve got Covid, but do you mind if I pop over and collect it today?”

When she said no, he started to get abusive and threaten her. WTF.

Almost sounds like the start of a scam ?

You know:

"I've Covid, & don't want to infect you; so why don't you leave the stuff outside, & once I put it in the car, I'll come back & leave an envelope with the money in your letterbox ...."

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:24 pm

Saint wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:11 pm Even if masks were shown to do nothing other than provide a permanent reminder to do the social distancing thing they're worthwhile. The only real risk is if they provide a false sense of security - but fortunately the data shows that if both parties are wearing a mask then there's a significant reduction in transmission

The data shows nothing of the sort in practical terms. Plenty of high and early mask use where high cases have appeared.

Saint wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:20 pm

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:24 pm

Saint wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:11 pm Even if masks were shown to do nothing other than provide a permanent reminder to do the social distancing thing they're worthwhile. The only real risk is if they provide a false sense of security - but fortunately the data shows that if both parties are wearing a mask then there's a significant reduction in transmission

The data shows nothing of the sort in practical terms. Plenty of high and early mask use where high cases have appeared.

Early mask usage has come in areas where there has been high cases. You’re mistaking the cause for the high correlation

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:34 pm

Saint wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:20 pm

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:24 pm


The data shows nothing of the sort in practical terms. Plenty of high and early mask use where high cases have appeared.

Early mask usage has come in areas where there has been high cases. You’re mistaking the cause for the high correlation

I’m pointing out there’s plenty of places with early adoption and tight mask policies that are in worse places than more laissez faire approaches. If masks worked we wouldn’t see this.

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:34 pm

Saint wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:20 pm

Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:24 pm


The data shows nothing of the sort in practical terms. Plenty of high and early mask use where high cases have appeared.

Early mask usage has come in areas where there has been high cases. You’re mistaking the cause for the high correlation

I’m pointing out there’s plenty of places with early adoption and tight mask policies that are in worse places than more laissez faire approaches. If masks worked we wouldn’t see this.