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Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 11:58 am
by Slick
Tichtheid wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:04 pm Nice little segment from Darcy Graham and his uncle Scott about roots and the importance of connections, hosted by Rory Lawson who of course has his own links with the town

Enjoyed that, it's a really great part of Scottish rugby that players have such a strong connection to their homes and are pretty accessible to the rest of the rugby playing community, I hope that doesn't get lost

Interesting that he didn't include playing for Edinburgh as something he wanted to do. Playing for your home club and Scotland is the ambition for most kids it seems and maybe thats part of the issue.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 12:49 pm
by robmatic
Slick wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 11:58 am
Interesting that he didn't include playing for Edinburgh as something he wanted to do. Playing for your home club and Scotland is the ambition for most kids it seems and maybe thats part of the issue.
That doesn't surprise me for a Borders lad, but I would imagine it might be different for folk from the city. There are definitely players in the Edinburgh squad who have grown up supporting the team and attending matches.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 12:58 pm
by Tichtheid
Slick wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 11:58 am
Tichtheid wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:04 pm Nice little segment from Darcy Graham and his uncle Scott about roots and the importance of connections, hosted by Rory Lawson who of course has his own links with the town

Enjoyed that, it's a really great part of Scottish rugby that players have such a strong connection to their homes and are pretty accessible to the rest of the rugby playing community, I hope that doesn't get lost

Interesting that he didn't include playing for Edinburgh as something he wanted to do. Playing for your home club and Scotland is the ambition for most kids it seems and maybe thats part of the issue.


I think times change, fifteen years ago a 12 year old Darcy Graham probably did want to play for Hawick and Scotland, Hawick is unique in its number of international players, 61 male Scotland internationals, 13 B&I Lions, 6 women internationals.

Today's Darcys will see Glasgow being successful, the ability to watch them on tv cannot be overstated. I'd like to think Edinburgh will improve at some point and be equally attractive to young players. That's the equivalent of wanting to play for the top football teams.

I was speaking to the mother of a guy from my club who is in the academy with Edinburgh, he feels overawed at times when he trains with the likes of Darcy and Duhan. We have a player at our club who is absolutely outstanding at our level, he was telling me on Saturday that this guy in Edinburgh's academy is by far the best player he's ever played with or against - I'm trying to make the point of the difference in standard here.

Our guy has been approached to play at a higher level several times but he has turned it down, to him the important thing is to play with your mates, the guys you grow up with. Our team have mostly known each other since they were beginning to walk. We have others who have left for clubs in the premiership too, but for the most part this is a group of young men who are in it for each other. Darcy mentions this point in the video, he says he wants to come back and play with his mates. I think that is an incredibly important point of view. We have another guy in the pack who could easily play up at premiership level, but at the moment, fingers crossed, he is also enjoying the camaraderie.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 1:38 pm
by Tichtheid
Scotland v Wales, Guinness Men’s Six Nations, Saturday, 8 March 2025, kick-off 4.45pm, Scottish Gas Murrayfield, live on BBC

15. Blair Kinghorn – Toulouse (58)
14. Darcy Graham – Edinburgh Rugby (44)
13. Huw Jones – Glasgow Warriors (56)
12. Tom Jordan – Glasgow Warriors (6)
11. Duhan van der Merwe – Edinburgh Rugby (47)
10. Finn Russell – Co-Captain – Bath Rugby (85)
9. Ben White – Toulon (27)

1. Pierre Schoeman – Edinburgh Rugby (40)
2. Dave Cherry – Edinburgh Rugby (14)
3. Zander Fagerson – Glasgow Warriors (73)
4. Jonny Gray – Bordeaux Bègles (80)
5. Grant Gilchrist – Edinburgh Rugby (78)
6. Jamie Ritchie – Edinburgh Rugby (57)
7. Rory Darge – Co-Captain – Glasgow Warriors (28)
8. Jack Dempsey – Glasgow Warriors (25)

Replacements

16. Ewan Ashman – Edinburgh Rugby (25)
17. Rory Sutherland – Glasgow Warriors (39)
18. Will Hurd – Leicester Tigers (7)
19. Gregor Brown – Glasgow Warriors (7)
20. Matt Fagerson – Glasgow Warriors (53)
21. George Horne – Glasgow Warriors (35)
22. Stafford McDowall – Glasgow Warriors (11)
23. Kyle Rowe – Glasgow Warriors (11)

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:01 pm
by vball
Thoughts on going from 6/2 to a 5/3 split?

Great to see Darcy Graham back. He will want to score tries for sure.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:05 pm
by Biffer
vball wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:01 pm Thoughts on going from 6/2 to a 5/3 split?

Great to see Darcy Graham back. He will want to score tries for sure.
6/2 has had no beneficial effect for us and I prefer 5/3. Unless you can do the same as SA and bring on guys who are clearly better to dominate the battle up front, I don't see the point.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:29 pm
by Jock42
vball wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:01 pm Thoughts on going from 6/2 to a 5/3 split?

Great to see Darcy Graham back. He will want to score tries for sure.
Gives me the fear, Scotland always seem to end up with players out of position or subs playing the whole game.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 3:10 pm
by SomersetJock
vball wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:01 pm Thoughts on going from 6/2 to a 5/3 split?

Great to see Darcy Graham back. He will want to score tries for sure.
With the shocking luck we seem to have it scares me every time !

I have no fears with Glasgow doing it though !

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 9:41 pm
by Punter15
Jock42 wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:29 pm
vball wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:01 pm Thoughts on going from 6/2 to a 5/3 split?

Great to see Darcy Graham back. He will want to score tries for sure.
Gives me the fear, Scotland always seem to end up with players out of position or subs playing the whole game.
Because we’re so arrogant apparently.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 9:47 pm
by Jockaline
What are the chances of me watching the Scotland game on TV without finding our the score of the Ireland game. Slim I guess.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 10:04 pm
by dkm57
Jockaline wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 9:47 pm What are the chances of me watching the Scotland game on TV without finding our the score of the Ireland game. Slim I guess.
Slim to none

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 10:04 pm
by Slick
Jockaline wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 9:47 pm What are the chances of me watching the Scotland game on TV without finding our the score of the Ireland game. Slim I guess.
Are they on the same channel? They are usually quite good at that kind of thing if the same channel

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 10:05 pm
by Slick
Anyway, I’ve changed my mind, we are going to smash them.

I like this arrogant thing

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 10:31 pm
by Jockaline
Slick wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 10:04 pm
Jockaline wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2025 9:47 pm What are the chances of me watching the Scotland game on TV without finding our the score of the Ireland game. Slim I guess.
Are they on the same channel? They are usually quite good at that kind of thing if the same channel
Not the same channel unfortunately, Scotland is on the BBC, the other STV. I guess I could watch both later in too enjoy both.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 7:42 pm
by KingBlairhorn
Good try for the U20s and Freddy Douglas. Great to see him back.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 8:06 pm
by KingBlairhorn
Wales just got their second red card (the first a 20 minute red, the second a full red). The first was clumsy, the second was dirty as fuck.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 8:08 pm
by Blackmac
I doubt there will be a more obvious red all weekend. Horrendous piece of play.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 8:20 pm
by Slick
Blackmac wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 8:08 pm I doubt there will be a more obvious red all weekend. Horrendous piece of play.
What happened?

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 8:39 pm
by Blackmac
Slick wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 8:20 pm
Blackmac wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 8:08 pm I doubt there will be a more obvious red all weekend. Horrendous piece of play.
What happened?
Came through on the catcher and led with his shoulder to the lads head.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 8:39 pm
by Blackmac
Making very hard work of breaking down the Wales defence.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 8:39 pm
by KingBlairhorn
Slick wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 8:20 pm
Blackmac wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 8:08 pm I doubt there will be a more obvious red all weekend. Horrendous piece of play.
What happened?
Scottish 9 kicking got hit late with a no arms tackle, no dip, shoulder straight to the head by (I think) a Welsh lock. It was a deliberate attempt at a dirty body check. Scottish 9 failed an HIA straight after.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 8:41 pm
by KingBlairhorn
Blackmac wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 8:39 pm Making very hard work of breaking down the Wales defence.
The setup is shite, the backs are far too deep.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 9:08 pm
by Blackmac
KingBlairhorn wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 8:39 pm
Slick wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 8:20 pm
Blackmac wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 8:08 pm I doubt there will be a more obvious red all weekend. Horrendous piece of play.
What happened?
Scottish 9 kicking got hit late with a no arms tackle, no dip, shoulder straight to the head by (I think) a Welsh lock. It was a deliberate attempt at a dirty body check. Scottish 9 failed an HIA straight after.
Sorry, yeah. My mistake.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 9:09 pm
by KingBlairhorn
Made hard work of that, but that should be enough now.

Douglas is a cut above.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 9:13 pm
by Blackmac
That looked nasty on MacArthur. Reckon the TMO will look at that.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 9:20 pm
by Biffer
Didn’t see all of it, but that’s a good win. Two deserved red cards for the Welsh lads and they looked to be starting all the pushing and shoving, and the ref thought that too I think given what he said near the end. Don’t like it up em captain.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 9:58 am
by dkm57
Really impressed by the lads. I started watching it prepared to switch to the Falcons/Bath if it got too gruesome. More than a few really good prospects in the Scotland squad.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 10:12 am
by Yr Alban
dkm57 wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 9:58 am Really impressed by the lads. I started watching it prepared to switch to the Falcons/Bath if it got too gruesome. More than a few really good prospects in the Scotland squad.
Good to hear. The news about our U20s is usually somewhere between dire and catastrophic, so some good news is great for once!

I’m going to miss the big game as I’m in Australia and I’ll be asleep. Probably for the best TBH.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:33 pm
by Blackmac
Odd to be disappointed by a 20 point half time lead but somehow I am.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:39 pm
by Punter15
Blackmac wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:33 pm Odd to be disappointed by a 20 point half time lead but somehow I am.
I know what you mean. The backs are firing so well that it feels like they could score almost at will.

(Yes, I know they can’t. Jesus)

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:41 pm
by S/Lt_Phillips
Blackmac wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:33 pm Odd to be disappointed by a 20 point half time lead but somehow I am.
Looked like this last year, and we all know what happened

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:46 pm
by Tichtheid
S/Lt_Phillips wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:41 pm
Blackmac wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:33 pm Odd to be disappointed by a 20 point half time lead but somehow I am.
Looked like this last year, and we all know what happened


It will be a step forward if we kick on and win this second half handsomely

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:47 pm
by KingBlairhorn
S/Lt_Phillips wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:41 pm
Blackmac wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:33 pm Odd to be disappointed by a 20 point half time lead but somehow I am.
Looked like this last year, and we all know what happened
A nice early try to settle the nerves please.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:59 pm
by Jock42
Scotland will win next week and send me into a spiral of psychosis of what should have been

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:03 pm
by Jock42
Hindsight is s great thing but would be good to bring Burke on in about 5 or 10 min

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:16 pm
by Blackmac
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:46 pm
S/Lt_Phillips wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:41 pm
Blackmac wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:33 pm Odd to be disappointed by a 20 point half time lead but somehow I am.
Looked like this last year, and we all know what happened


It will be a step forward if we kick on and win this second half handsomely
If only. Even in a win they are so bloody frustrating.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:20 pm
by Blackmac
I would have bet my house on this shit happening. The most frustrating fucking team. Their composure is disgraceful.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:23 pm
by Blackmac
That was pathetic.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:31 pm
by Big D
How complicated are we making line outs. No wonder our hookers aren't hitting their man.

Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:32 pm
by Big D
The drop off in control from Russell and White to Jordan and Horne has been massive.