NPR

This feels like “the tour from hell”

England miss Eddie Jones.

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:14 pm I am often critical of Dupont as in think he is overrated. Not this championship as he has been consistently very very good

You really are in LaLa land if you think Dupont is overrated.

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:14 pm England miss Eddie Jones.

That is very worrying. Was he a coach that was able to polish a collection of turds?

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:11 pm

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:08 pm England can’t buy a stroke of luck today.

10-41
61 mins

I've waited 50+ years for Eng to be the dumber side than Fra.

Hard to pick the bigger fool in that last phase or two.

Thanks for the hospital pass Ntamack

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:10 pm Farrell was never as shite as the fans thought. Borthwick blinked. I think English people are particularly guilty of picking a vessel to pour all their scorn into

Farrell is as bad as the fans thought but everything has been set up to be based around him. The terrible conditions mean it is probably the worst time to actually try to play a bit more rugby which would have been the intent with Smith. Wet conditions mean you can't shift France forwards around a bit which you really need to do (Ireland did this very well). We have basically pissed away 3 years when we needed a rebuild.

Eesh....

Oh christ

Great choice from Fickou, France have been sublime

We’ll be lucky not to ship 60 here

That was shite from Dombrant. Had an absolute age to get closer to Penaud there before it landed

10-48
73 mins

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:22 pm That was shite from Dombrant. Had an absolute age to get closer to Penaud there before it landed

I thought he dud extraordinarily well to almost get in the tap tackle.

Glorious!!!!

50 up

Steward is so f**king slow, he's a total liability in open space.

We’re a rabble. Official.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:24 pm

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:22 pm That was shite from Dombrant. Had an absolute age to get closer to Penaud there before it landed

I thought he dud extraordinarily well to almost get in the tap tackle.

It was when the ball was in the air not after. Needed to get close to him

Oh dear

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:24 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:24 pm

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:22 pm That was shite from Dombrant. Had an absolute age to get closer to Penaud there before it landed

I thought he dud extraordinarily well to almost get in the tap tackle.

It was when the ball was in the air not after. Needed to get close to him

Dombrandt has looked ponderous all game.

The French coaches were stifling laughs there

Leg. Swept.

Eddie didn't die for this!

Oxbow wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:25 pm

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:24 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:24 pm

I thought he dud extraordinarily well to almost get in the tap tackle.

It was when the ball was in the air not after. Needed to get close to him

Dombrandt has looked ponderous all game.

to be fair he is playing in the backs as we are missing a back.

Oxbow wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:25 pm Dombrandt has looked ponderous all game.

Yes, but he has no chance against Penaud.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:24 pm

Steward is so f**king slow, he's a total liability in open space.

He can catch a high ball though, which apparently makes him world class.

Knock.on as we desperately try to salvage anything sums up the game for England.

Not even second best.

Aye alright Lawrence

If Smith had been in Blue, this would have been 70+

Played France. Flawless.

France were absolutely outstanding, from 1 to 23

France utterly dominant, can’t deny. England plumbed depths previously unplumbed. Chastening stuff

Only caught parts of the game but that English pack got absolutely manshamed outside of the lineout.

Lethal from the French.

Ah well. Steward was okay. Saw both the good (massively ups the pace) and the bad (can try to take too much on himself when chasing a game) of Mitchell. And that's about it. Congratulations France.

Holy mother of god.

France are a very good side but England absolutely capitulated

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:31 pm France were absolutely outstanding, from 1 to 23

There was some stuff in the press before the game about a best combined 15 and I thought "Utter bollox, there isn't a single Eng fwd who'd make the Fre team".

As someone said earlier, fwds win the game and if you are bested in every position from 1-9, you will be hammered.

Fair play, completely outplayed.

I make that England's worst ever defeat. The only two worst by margin were severely understrength touring teams to OZ (98) and SA (07). This one was full strength at home.

petej wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:26 pm

Oxbow wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:25 pm

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:24 pm

It was when the ball was in the air not after. Needed to get close to him

Dombrandt has looked ponderous all game.

to be fair he is playing in the backs as we are missing a back.

He did awfully there but he also carried the most of anyone in the pack and made the most tackles of anyone on the pitch - fair to say he was knackered at that point regardless of how poorly he'd played


Absolute horror show from England, right from the start it was an absolute disaster. Just across the board appalling. One of the most humiliating results and doubly painful as I'd believed our pack was heading in the right direction. An absolute shitshow of errors, attitude, tactics, discipline, defence - you name it we fucked it for the full 80.

Made the u20s last night look good.

Not sure where England go from here, the guys in charge have no real experience to fall back on and our supposed areas of strength were brutally exposed. Just so bad that your choice is ignore it and pretend it didn't happen, or make sweeping changes in all areas. There's no hiding from just how bad that was in all areas.