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Ymx wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:01 pm The scuffle itself was minor, of course. but it’s the key underlying issues with the incident which are actually fundamentally terrifying.

There are many protestors who this banner is offending. This guy is exposing them week after week. I believe the guy who attacked him said that Hamas were freedom fighters or similar. I’ll try and dig it out. I’m sure it was first hand account.

The met police are ignoring support of terrorist organisations (Hamas and Houthis) and instead attacking someone who simply had the message “Hamas are Terrorists”. And destroying his sign.

It’s fvcking dire.

Tilly Orifice wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:04 am 31 470 on Saturday, according to al Jazeera. It's worth noting that it goes up every day, while YMX agonises about scuffles in the streets of London.

Ymx wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:01 pm The scuffle itself was minor, of course. but it’s the key underlying issues with the incident which are actually fundamentally terrifying.

There are many protestors who this banner is offending. This guy is exposing them week after week. I believe the guy who attacked him said that Hamas were freedom fighters or similar. I’ll try and dig it out. I’m sure it was first hand account.

The met police are ignoring support of terrorist organisations (Hamas and Houthis) and instead attacking someone who simply had the message “Hamas are Terrorists”. And destroying his sign.

It’s fvcking dire.

Tilly Orifice wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:04 am 31 470 on Saturday, according to al Jazeera. It's worth noting that it goes up every day, while YMX agonises about scuffles in the streets of London.

Ymx wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:46 am

Tilly Orifice wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:04 am 31 470 on Saturday, according to al Jazeera. It's worth noting that it goes up every day, while YMX agonises about scuffles in the streets of London.

That is a foreign conflict and a war zone. London is not.

This country is not at war, and terrorist supporters need to be policed as such. The utter uselessness and bias shown by the met is disgusting and very disturbing. These Islamists are increasingly brazenly shouting support for terrorists and for the destruction of Israel/Jews.

You can’t legitimise this.

C69 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 9:31 am I don't think YMX is trolling tbh, he is just not very well informed about anything. He is not really very bright so I think boredies should give home a break.
His reactionary, some may say far right links from twitter etc somewhat make him a target.
Cut him some slack if he stops spewing bile from extremists.

Tilly Orifice wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:51 am

Ymx wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:46 am

Tilly Orifice wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:04 am 31 470 on Saturday, according to al Jazeera. It's worth noting that it goes up every day, while YMX agonises about scuffles in the streets of London.

That is a foreign conflict and a war zone. London is not.

This country is not at war, and terrorist supporters need to be policed as such. The utter uselessness and bias shown by the met is disgusting and very disturbing. These Islamists are increasingly brazenly shouting support for terrorists and for the destruction of Israel/Jews.

You can’t legitimise this.

Looks foreign to me.

I like neeps wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 8:30 am

C69 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 9:31 am I don't think YMX is trolling tbh, he is just not very well informed about anything. He is not really very bright so I think boredies should give home a break.
His reactionary, some may say far right links from twitter etc somewhat make him a target.
Cut him some slack if he stops spewing bile from extremists.

He is a troll, you can't talk about Israel daily for 6 months and not know what Netanyahu looks like if you have a genuine feeling for the country and their conflict.

I do also think he has a sincere dislike of Muslims as apart from the odd All Blacks thread he spends his time on the Israel thread and the dinghy thread talking about them in a uniformly negative manner.

But first and foremost he's a troll, see his set up and then immediate performative outrage when someone posted a picture of Lavrov. Not realising, somehow, it wasn't the leader of the country he's been talking about for six months.

Visegrád 24 is an advertising agency account on X (formerly Twitter) that publishes information related to the current events, including the Russian invasion of Ukraine as well as the Israel–Hamas war.[1] One of its founders was Polish content creator and advertiser Stefan Tompson.[2][3]


Misinformation
In 2022 and 2023, Polish media outlet OKO.press and Visegrad Insight published, respectively, that Visegrád 24 was a propaganda and misinformation hub funded by the Polish government.[3][10][better source needed]

Israel–Hamas war

In October 2023, the University of Washington's Center for an Informed Public stated that Visegrád 24 was primarily posting emotionally-charged content, with some posts using divisive imagery and "culture war" framing. They noted, "While traditional news does at times use such imagery as well, the sheer volume of these tweets, combined with the lack of deeper analysis or context mentioned above, created for our analysts the sense of a constant stream of decontextualized anger and violence when analyzing these accounts."[6]
Visegrád 24 posted a CNN clip that claimed babies had been decapitated by Hamas during their initial attack on Israel. CNN later issued two corrections; the Center for an Informed Public noted they could not find any corrections by Visegrád 24 about the rumour.[6]
In November 2023, Bloomberg News found that Visegrád 24 was one of the influencers that went viral by posting misinformation since the start of the war, citing an instance where Visegrád 24 claimed without evidence that the Taliban had asked the Iranian, Iraqi and Jordanian governments for passage to join with Hamas.[8]
In December 2023, Visegrád 24 posted a video clip on X from 2015 of a man who shouted at Israeli soldiers before falling. In the post, Visegrád 24 posed the question, "What is going on here? Is Pallyywood [sic] in action?", in reference to Pallywood, a conspiracy theory that claims Palestinians are faking civilian casualties.[15]
On 9 March 2024, Visegrád 24 claimed Israel had defeated Hamas and won the siege of Khan Yunis.[16] However, this was disputed by the Institute for the Study of War, who also published on 9 March that Hamas “remains combat effective” in Khan Yunis.[17]

Ymx wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:46 am. This country is not at war

Ymx wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 4:01 pm But Hamas

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 4:57 pm This is from Wiki

Visegrád 24 is an advertising agency account on X (formerly Twitter) that publishes information related to the current events, including the Russian invasion of Ukraine as well as the Israel–Hamas war.[1] One of its founders was Polish content creator and advertiser Stefan Tompson.[2][3]


Misinformation
In 2022 and 2023, Polish media outlet OKO.press and Visegrad Insight published, respectively, that Visegrád 24 was a propaganda and misinformation hub funded by
In December 2023, Visegrád 24 posted a video clip on X from 2015 of a man who shouted at Israeli soldiers before falling. In the post, Visegrád 24 posed the question, "What is going on here? Is Pallyywood [sic] in action?", in reference to Pallywood, a conspiracy theory that claims Palestinians are faking civilian casualties.[15]

I don't know what is true or not true in any of this, but I'd be wary of sources which have a reputation for spreading misinformation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visegrád_24

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 4:57 pm

Misinformation
In December 2023, Visegrád 24 posted a video clip on X from 2015 of a man who shouted at Israeli soldiers before falling. In the post, Visegrád 24 posed the question, "What is going on here? Is Pallyywood [sic] in action?", in reference to Pallywood, a conspiracy theory that claims Palestinians are faking civilian casualties.[15]

It’s a fact that she was murdered by Hamas, the exact manner I’m not sure - raped, tortured, burned alive - despite your seeming inability to believe it, it has been well documented that Hamas have employed all these methods.

You have a go at YMX for quoting an Israeli government official, despite what that official giving factually correct information

Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:51 am Face it, you and YMX are nothing more than cuckshills for the Israelis...

you're incapable of discussion. You spring to the defence of the IDF and Israeli govt as a reflex... and the logic failure here is hilarious,

It’s a fact that she was murdered by Hamas, the exact manner I’m not sure - raped, tortured, burned alive - despite your seeming inability to believe it, it has been well documented that Hamas have employed all these methods.

You have a go at YMX for quoting an Israeli government official, despite what that official giving factually correct information

you admit the quoted post is inaccurate, then squeal that the quoted post is factual.

You're an emotional mess.

Calculon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:10 am

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 4:57 pm This is from Wiki

Visegrád 24 is an advertising agency account on X (formerly Twitter) that publishes information related to the current events, including the Russian invasion of Ukraine as well as the Israel–Hamas war.[1] One of its founders was Polish content creator and advertiser Stefan Tompson.[2][3]


Misinformation
In 2022 and 2023, Polish media outlet OKO.press and Visegrad Insight published, respectively, that Visegrád 24 was a propaganda and misinformation hub funded by
In December 2023, Visegrád 24 posted a video clip on X from 2015 of a man who shouted at Israeli soldiers before falling. In the post, Visegrád 24 posed the question, "What is going on here? Is Pallyywood [sic] in action?", in reference to Pallywood, a conspiracy theory that claims Palestinians are faking civilian casualties.[15]

I don't know what is true or not true in any of this, but I'd be wary of sources which have a reputation for spreading misinformation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visegrád_24

Always ready to defend Hamas, aren’t you.

Ymx wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 7:42 am Meanwhile, Tichtheid (our BBC verify) quite happily allows the flow of unverified women and children casualty numbers to be posted.

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 7:48 am

Ymx wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 7:42 am Meanwhile, Tichtheid (our BBC verify) quite happily allows the flow of unverified women and children casualty numbers to be posted.

You continue to miss the point.

Do you hear whooshing sound quite a lot?

Kiwias wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 8:25 am This thread is starting to (has already?) resemble one on PR.

Ymx wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 8:26 am

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 7:48 am

Ymx wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 7:42 am Meanwhile, Tichtheid (our BBC verify) quite happily allows the flow of unverified women and children casualty numbers to be posted.

You continue to miss the point.

Do you hear whooshing sound quite a lot?

If that point is of attempting to discredit/verify only information on one side - then no it’s been pretty clear.

Would you mind finding your posts which have discredited the other side. Or are you suggesting the references have always been impeccable on the Palestinian/Hamas defence ?

The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI), officially the Middle East Media and Research Institute,[1] is an American non-profit press monitoring and analysis organization that was co-founded by Israeli ex-intelligence officer Yigal Carmon and Israeli-American political scientist Meyrav Wurmser in 1997.

Ymx wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:16 am Whilst the BBC did make themselves a global laughing stock in the early days of the conflict. There have been tens if not hundreds of bbc articles posted here which I’ve not felt compelled to discredit, in the way you do consistently.

You seem to have appointed yourself as independent source verification. If you find a slight stain or anything on the source, you leap on it, in an attempt to discredit anything and everything which purports to either show Hamas as barbaric terrorists, or that shows the iDF in any good light.

And it’s only ever in the one direction. Check your reflection.

You “allow” casualty numbers to be bandied about from which we know are numbers which have ultimately come from Hamas. Yet are post by post dropped here, and without ever any breakdown as to which are Hamas terrorists, or resistance fighter as some here might call them.

So V24 we should dismiss, but those with underlying source of Hamas are fine.

So forgive me if I don’t seek your approval when posting.

Ymx wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:16 am Whilst the BBC did make themselves a global laughing stock in the early days of the conflict. There have been tens if not hundreds of bbc articles posted here which I’ve not felt compelled to discredit, in the way you do consistently.

You seem to have appointed yourself as independent source verification. If you find a slight stain or anything on the source, you leap on it, in an attempt to discredit anything and everything which purports to either show Hamas as barbaric terrorists, or that shows the iDF in any good light.

And it’s only ever in the one direction. Check your reflection.

You “allow” casualty numbers to be bandied about from which we know are numbers which have ultimately come from Hamas. Yet are post by post dropped here, and without ever any breakdown as to which are Hamas terrorists, or resistance fighter as some here might call them.

So V24 we should dismiss, but those with underlying source of Hamas are fine.

So forgive me if I don’t seek your approval when posting.

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:23 am

Ymx wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:16 am Whilst the BBC did make themselves a global laughing stock in the early days of the conflict. There have been tens if not hundreds of bbc articles posted here which I’ve not felt compelled to discredit, in the way you do consistently.

You seem to have appointed yourself as independent source verification. If you find a slight stain or anything on the source, you leap on it, in an attempt to discredit anything and everything which purports to either show Hamas as barbaric terrorists, or that shows the iDF in any good light.

And it’s only ever in the one direction. Check your reflection.

You “allow” casualty numbers to be bandied about from which we know are numbers which have ultimately come from Hamas. Yet are post by post dropped here, and without ever any breakdown as to which are Hamas terrorists, or resistance fighter as some here might call them.

So V24 we should dismiss, but those with underlying source of Hamas are fine.

So forgive me if I don’t seek your approval when posting.

Does it matter if 25000 or 35000 civilians have been killed in Gaza? Or if this week's count is 50 or 1000? We know for sure the number isn't going down.

Regardless who reports it, it's still a gross tragedy and we should all be shouting at Israel to fuck their tanks back to Tel Aviv immediately!

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:31 am
I think it's very difficult to tell how many people have been killed or how many are facing starvation or even how many are being displaced, but all of these things are happening in Gazza.

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:23 am

Ymx wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:16 am Whilst the BBC did make themselves a global laughing stock in the early days of the conflict. There have been tens if not hundreds of bbc articles posted here which I’ve not felt compelled to discredit, in the way you do consistently.

You seem to have appointed yourself as independent source verification. If you find a slight stain or anything on the source, you leap on it, in an attempt to discredit anything and everything which purports to either show Hamas as barbaric terrorists, or that shows the iDF in any good light.

And it’s only ever in the one direction. Check your reflection.

You “allow” casualty numbers to be bandied about from which we know are numbers which have ultimately come from Hamas. Yet are post by post dropped here, and without ever any breakdown as to which are Hamas terrorists, or resistance fighter as some here might call them.

So V24 we should dismiss, but those with underlying source of Hamas are fine.

So forgive me if I don’t seek your approval when posting.

Does it matter if 25000 or 35000 civilians have been killed in Gaza? Or if this week's count is 50 or 1000? We know for sure the number isn't going down.

Regardless who reports it, it's still a gross tragedy and we should all be shouting at Israel to fuck their tanks back to Tel Aviv immediately!

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:23 am

Ymx wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:16 am Whilst the BBC did make themselves a global laughing stock in the early days of the conflict. There have been tens if not hundreds of bbc articles posted here which I’ve not felt compelled to discredit, in the way you do consistently.

You seem to have appointed yourself as independent source verification. If you find a slight stain or anything on the source, you leap on it, in an attempt to discredit anything and everything which purports to either show Hamas as barbaric terrorists, or that shows the iDF in any good light.

And it’s only ever in the one direction. Check your reflection.

You “allow” casualty numbers to be bandied about from which we know are numbers which have ultimately come from Hamas. Yet are post by post dropped here, and without ever any breakdown as to which are Hamas terrorists, or resistance fighter as some here might call them.

So V24 we should dismiss, but those with underlying source of Hamas are fine.

So forgive me if I don’t seek your approval when posting.

I'm not asking for your approval, but you are still missing the point.


I'll write it again.

Everyone knows who and what the BBC is.

No one knows who the sources you pick up on twitter are, I spent about two minutes finding out that they have been shown to be deliberately spreading misinformation without retraction.

I'll write this again too, if you want to be taken seriously, use, for example, AP or Reuters if you think the BBC is biased.

Ymx wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:17 am
I’ll say it again, I’m not seeking your one-sided approval.