Rugby Championship Match Thread - Sat 2nd - SA v NZ / Arg v Aus

[Kiwias]

Why did the police manning the border let them enter NSW in the first place?

Good question.

Anyway, crisis averted, with the test confirmed as going ahead. And apparently captain Montoya wasn't stuck in NSW after all.

[Gumboot]

No idea why, but this week the ABs will be named at 2:30pm, so in about 20 minutes.

[Kiwias]

1. Joe Moody (53)
2. Codie Taylor (63)
3. Nepo Laulala (36)
4. Brodie Retallick (88)
5. Scott Barrett (47)
6. Akira Ioane (9)
7. Ardie Savea (55) – captain
8. Luke Jacobson (9)
9. Brad Weber (13)
10. Beauden Barrett (97)
11. Rieko Ioane (43)
12. David Havili (10)
13. Anton Lienert-Brown (52)
14. Sevu Reece (13)
15. Jordie Barrett (31)
RESERVES
16. Asafo Aumua (3)
17. George Bower (7)
18. Ofa Tuungafasi (41)
19. Patrick Tuipulotu (40)
20. Ethan Blackadder (6)
21. TJ Perenara (74)
22. Richie Mo’unga (26)
23. Damian McKenzie (36)

Bridge out of the 23.

[Gumboot]

Will Jordan gone, too. Injured?

Very happy with that team, but again would've preferred Vaa'i on the bench rather than Tuipulotu.

[Kiwias]

Will Jordan gone, too. Injured?

Very happy with that team, but again would've preferred Vaa'i on the bench rather than Tuipulotu.

I'm happy with Weber starting and with Savea in his best position. With you on Vaa'i over PT. I hope it was injury for Jordan


EDIT: the comment about Jordan came out wrong. I am not wishing an injury on him. If he is not injured, I would prefer him, or Bridge, over Dmac on the bench.

[Monkey Magic]

Think the backline impact off the bench is blunted by having both Mo'unga and Dmac.

Be interesting to see how aumua goes off the bench if it's close. Actually the lineout in general will be interesting, cost the all blacks a lot of opportunities

[Sards]

South African rugby is in a very bad place right now.

[Kiwias]

Think the backline impact off the bench is blunted by having both Mo'unga and Dmac.

Be interesting to see how aumua goes off the bench if it's close. Actually the lineout in general will be interesting, cost the all blacks a lot of opportunities

With Mo on the bench, the smart move would have been to include Bridge or Jordan rather than DMac.

[Kiwias]

South African rugby is in a very bad place right now.

You would not be saying that had Jordie missed his final kick last week.

[Certain Navigator]

Think the backline impact off the bench is blunted by having both Mo'unga and Dmac.

Be interesting to see how aumua goes off the bench if it's close. Actually the lineout in general will be interesting, cost the all blacks a lot of opportunities

With Mo on the bench, the smart move would have been to include Bridge or Jordan rather than DMac.

Or even Tupaea. McKenzie makes no sense — everything he brings to the table is fully spanned by existing alternatives.

Very much this. I am baffled

[Sards]

South African rugby is in a very bad place right now.

You would not be saying that had Jordie missed his final kick last week.

If, maybe, could have, would have, should have......

Check the scoreboard chief

[OomStruisbaai]

Very strong All Black team. Springbokke will be with one foot on the plane after been away from home since June.

All Blacks by 50

[assfly]

FFS

Saturday’s Rugby Championship test between Australia and Argentina on the Gold Coast is in crisis because members of Argentina's squad are reportedly locked out of Queensland.

The Courier Mail reports that eight Pumas players and staff can’t get back into Queensland after a day trip across the state border to Byron Bay in New South Wales on Wednesday.

The players reportedly include Argentina captain Julian Montoya and two staff members, including the team manager.

They tried to return to their Gold Coast base on Wednesday night but were stopped by police on the border and refused entry to Queensland.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/int ... d--reports

Being offside is in their DNA.

[Gumboot]

Think the backline impact off the bench is blunted by having both Mo'unga and Dmac.

Be interesting to see how aumua goes off the bench if it's close. Actually the lineout in general will be interesting, cost the all blacks a lot of opportunities

With Mo on the bench, the smart move would have been to include Bridge or Jordan rather than DMac.

Or even Tupaea. McKenzie makes no sense — everything he brings to the table is fully spanned by existing alternatives.

Very much this. I am baffled

Yep, was hoping they'd rest Havili and start Tupaea. Fozzie's clearly hell-bent on shoehorning as many first fives into our backline as possible. Anyone who's ever played there for 5 minutes will do.

Happy our original backrow selected last week will get a go on Saturday. That last minute reshuffle played a big part in our breakdown woes, I reckon.

[Enzedder]

With Mo on the bench, the smart move would have been to include Bridge or Jordan rather than DMac.

Or even Tupaea. McKenzie makes no sense — everything he brings to the table is fully spanned by existing alternatives.

Very much this. I am baffled

Yep, was hoping they'd rest Havili and start Tupaea. Fozzie's clearly hell-bent on shoehorning as many first fives into our backline as possible. Anyone who's ever played there for 5 minutes will do.

Happy our original backrow selected last week will get a go on Saturday. That last minute reshuffle played a big part in our breakdown woes, I reckon.

Sorry MM - I hit the edit button instead of the quote one and changed your post.

Just think if we lost a 12, we could end up with 3 #10s on the pitch - lots of kicking options to make any Saffer coach envious

[Monkey Magic]

Or even Tupaea. McKenzie makes no sense — everything he brings to the table is fully spanned by existing alternatives.

Very much this. I am baffled

Yep, was hoping they'd rest Havili and start Tupaea. Fozzie's clearly hell-bent on shoehorning as many first fives into our backline as possible. Anyone who's ever played there for 5 minutes will do.

Happy our original backrow selected last week will get a go on Saturday. That last minute reshuffle played a big part in our breakdown woes, I reckon.

Sorry MM - I hit the edit button instead of the quote one and changed your post.

Just think if we lost a 12, we could end up with 3 #10s on the pitch - lots of kicking options to make any Saffer coach envious

If you count TJ as a 10 we could push for 4!

Boks wouldn't know what to do with themselves. Now if we said 4 kicking halfback rassie would be creaming himself

[handyman]

What happened to Havili last week? Boks line speed and aggressive defence had him struggling.

[Kiwias]

South African rugby is in a very bad place right now.

You would not be saying that had Jordie missed his final kick last week.

If, maybe, could have, would have, should have......

Check the scoreboard chief

I was merely pointing out that the Boks were only a couple of points behind, so I genuinely don't get all the wailing and gnashing of teeth by you guys.

[Gumboot]

You would not be saying that had Jordie missed his final kick last week.

If, maybe, could have, would have, should have......

Check the scoreboard chief

I was merely pointing out that the Boks were only a couple of points behind, so I genuinely don't get all the wailing and gnashing of teeth by you guys.

Yeah, it's a strange one all right. Their coach has reassured Saffer supporters that they have the right game plan but just need to execute it better, and such a small losing margin last time would indicate he's bang on. Their superior aerial DNA will surely prevail this time. Boks by 2.

[Monkey Magic]

What happened to Havili last week? Boks line speed and aggressive defence had him struggling.

All Blacks playing a bit flat - although this looked planned - he had to deal with a fair few passes on his hip/ behind him.

But yeah think line speed with a flat attack is asking for trouble. Mentioned it somewhere but midfield looked confused, Reiko often ended up next to Havili neither in position for an offload or clean out.

Was surprised that after years of ridiculously over done chips and grubbers from BB, they did none of them last week.

[Kiwias]

The six Puma players who broke covid regulations to have an outing to a beach in northern NSW are not eligible for the Saturday game.

[handyman]

What happened to Havili last week? Boks line speed and aggressive defence had him struggling.

All Blacks playing a bit flat - although this looked planned - he had to deal with a fair few passes on his hip/ behind him.

But yeah think line speed with a flat attack is asking for trouble. Mentioned it somewhere but midfield looked confused, Reiko often ended up next to Havili neither in position for an offload or clean out.

Was surprised that after years of ridiculously over done chips and grubbers from BB, they did none of them last week.

Yes, it seemed there were no plan B and more often than not it was Havili who got ball and defender at the same time.

[Gumboot]

Our loosies are still a bit unsettled, but it's good that we're developing consistency and experience in our pack. Even without Coles, Whitelock and Cane it's racking up a goodly number of caps.

[Sards]

You would not be saying that had Jordie missed his final kick last week.

If, maybe, could have, would have, should have......

Check the scoreboard chief

I was merely pointing out that the Boks were only a couple of points behind, so I genuinely don't get all the wailing and gnashing of teeth by you guys.

Its the 2 losses to Australia.............we thought they were our bitches until we realized that " we ain't all that..."

[Gumboot]

Its the 2 losses to Australia.............we thought they were our bitches until we realized that " we ain't all that..."

Yep, you thought that because you were looking too far ahead. Said so at the time.

[average joe]

Losing to the Ozzies did grind my gears a bit. They're not that great a side. The close loss against the AB's I can take. The only thing that will save this tour for me now is winning the last game.

[Gumboot]

Losing to the Ozzies did grind my gears a bit. They're not that great a side. The close loss against the AB's I can take. The only thing that will save this tour for me now is winning the last game.

The only thing that will save this tour for me is winning the only game left...

[Gumboot]

The Boks are better than this, Shirley?

[Grandpa]

Very strong All Black team. Springbokke will be with one foot on the plane after been away from home since June.

All Blacks by 50

Do the Boks get to go home before the European tour? Lucky buggers...

[Sards]

Very strong All Black team. Springbokke will be with one foot on the plane after been away from home since June.

All Blacks by 50

Do the Boks get to go home before the European tour? Lucky buggers...

They will get a heros welcome when they land....................I hope the crowd are there handing out soccer balls to Faf and Pollie

[handyman]

Why do the Boks get KAPA O PANGO? According to the Kiwi's on here, Australia are their biggest rival and the Bledisloe the biggest cup. Surely they should reserve KAPA O PANGO for the Wallabies?

[Grandpa]

Why do the Boks get KAPA O PANGO? According to the Kiwi's on here, Australia are their biggest rival and the Bledisloe the biggest cup. Surely they should reserve KAPA O PANGO for the Wallabies?

What Kiwis have said that? Boks have always been our biggest rivals. 36% winning record is the reason why. No one else comes close.

[Sards]

Why do the Boks get KAPA O PANGO? According to the Kiwi's on here, Australia are their biggest rival and the Bledisloe the biggest cup. Surely they should reserve KAPA O PANGO for the Wallabies?

I doubt it will be the Kapa.....they wont waste it twice against the boks......

[Grandpa]

Why do the Boks get KAPA O PANGO? According to the Kiwi's on here, Australia are their biggest rival and the Bledisloe the biggest cup. Surely they should reserve KAPA O PANGO for the Wallabies?

I doubt it will be the Kapa.....they wont waste it twice against the boks......

Maybe if the Boks had won...

[Gumboot]

Why do the Boks get KAPA O PANGO? According to the Kiwi's on here, Australia are their biggest rival and the Bledisloe the biggest cup. Surely they should reserve KAPA O PANGO for the Wallabies?

We'd already beaten the Wallabies.

[Ymx]

Why do the Boks get KAPA O PANGO? According to the Kiwi's on here, Australia are their biggest rival and the Bledisloe the biggest cup. Surely they should reserve KAPA O PANGO for the Wallabies?

Who said that?

[OomStruisbaai]

Very strong All Black team. Springbokke will be with one foot on the plane after been away from home since June.

All Blacks by 50

Do the Boks get to go home before the European tour? Lucky buggers...

Understand they get a 2 week break then off to France and UK. Not 100% sure but they surely need to get their homework up to date.

[Ymx]

Very strong All Black team. Springbokke will be with one foot on the plane after been away from home since June.

All Blacks by 50

Do the Boks get to go home before the European tour? Lucky buggers...

Understand they get a 2 week break then off to France and UK. Not 100% sure but they surely need to get their homework up to date.

SA is still a red Zone over here in the UK, so would need to quarantine for 10 days.

[Kiwias]

If, maybe, could have, would have, should have......

Check the scoreboard chief

I was merely pointing out that the Boks were only a couple of points behind, so I genuinely don't get all the wailing and gnashing of teeth by you guys.

Its the 2 losses to Australia.............we thought they were our bitches until we realized that " we ain't all that..."

I feel your pain on that one.

[Grandpa]

Do the Boks get to go home before the European tour? Lucky buggers...

Understand they get a 2 week break then off to France and UK. Not 100% sure but they surely need to get their homework up to date.

SA is still a red Zone over here in the UK, so would need to quarantine for 10 days.

Seems crazy to go through quarantine again when you don't need to?