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Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:37 am
by Insane_Homer
better info below
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:38 am
by Margin__Walker
Shanky’s mate wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:16 am
Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:04 am
Uncle fester wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:58 am
Going to be a long winter for anybody with kids. Every time they cough, you'll be locked down until the test comes back negative.
I got a test on Wednesday for a cold that developed into a persistent cough (which happens every time I get a cold).
Thankfully the result came back in a day, but the Mrs wasn't impressed as we had to take my son out of school yesterday.
I know it’s dreadfully inconvenient... what else is one to do when faced with a beastly pandemic?
Nice
Not impressed at me in a strictly light hearted way for getting a test with with an abundance of caution for borderline symptoms.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:48 am
by Insane_Homer
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:52 am
by Rinkals
TB63 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:27 am
Fuck you...
AB Rh negative. ..
Me too.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:54 am
by Bimbowomxn
Saint wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:50 am
tabascoboy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:37 am
Anyone here using the "NHS" Covid Test and Trace app? I don't even have anything I could install it on...
Installed it this morning. You;ve got to have something fairly old for it not to run
3 years ...
Neither my wife’s nor my phone are new enough.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:55 am
by Bimbowomxn
People ;
“We hate this government and cannot trust them”
“Ooo an app , lets download that”
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:21 pm
by Raggs
Saint wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:21 am
Raggs wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:03 am
Had it installed for ages now. Recently got a notification to say my area has moved from a low risk to a medium risk area.
Were you in the trial zone? Until this morning you needed a trial code to turn the app on
Yes, I was.
As for privacy. Coders I trust, and who were originally very upset with the Government app in terms of privacy, were actually quite happy with it once the released the source code for it and how it was used. It's a shame that apple wouldn't share their information to be honest, because a centralised app can be so much more usefully adapted than a decentralised one.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:37 pm
by Sandstorm
Watching the BBC news and every moaning twat on there today - 2 x MPs crying about Job Security measures, a medical professional questioning lockdown and an IT Bod bitching about Track&Trace App - are all fucking Scots!!
Why don't they just piss off into Independence already?
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:43 pm
by Slick
Sandstorm wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:37 pm
Watching the BBC news and every moaning twat on there today - 2 x MPs crying about Job Security measures, a medical professional questioning lockdown and an IT Bod bitching about Track&Trace App - are all fucking Scots!!
Why don't they just piss off into Independence already?
You just need to learn how it works, all the identical measures taken up here are brilliant according to the same folk
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:43 pm
by Biffer
Lobby wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:30 am
SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:58 am
Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:50 am
Wrt Vallance having shares in
Astra Zeneca; he was CEO, of course he fucking did.
When he stood down in 2018, he had £6million quids worth. Since then he's sold ninety percent. That'll be a gradual cashing in probably agreed with the company, in order to prevent a significant one of sale impacting the share price (or the visuals of a CEO selling the lot as soon as he leaves causing a run).
GSK I think? He was President for 6 years
He was head of R&D at GSK.
I don’t think this is the gotcha moment that the Torygraph thinks it is. As Biffer has pointed out, this is simply the residue of his share options, and is only 10% of his previous holdings. It’s also worth noting that GSK is not involved with either of the main UK vaccine candidates at Oxford or Imperial. It’s only university partner appears to be the University of Queensland.
If he had substantial shareholding’s in AstraZeneca, there might have been more of a story, given its involvement with the Oxford vaccine candidate, but he doesn’t appear to have invested in AZ.
Yeah, GSK, sorry. I think the disbursement of his shares was probably a condition of taking the role he's currently in.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:47 pm
by JM2K6
Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:55 am
People ;
“We hate this government and cannot trust them”
“Ooo an app , lets download that”
It follows all the correct procedures in order to be trusted.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:55 pm
by Bimbowomxn
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:47 pm
Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:55 am
People ;
“We hate this government and cannot trust them”
“Ooo an app , lets download that”
It follows all the correct procedures in order to be trusted.
I’m sure it does. I’m just constantly surprised by the dichotomy regarding the “Boris is a liar” ..... “let’s trust their covid response”
This is all politics now, not science.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:00 pm
by Sandstorm
Slick wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:43 pm
Sandstorm wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:37 pm
Watching the BBC news and every moaning twat on there today - 2 x MPs crying about Job Security measures, a medical professional questioning lockdown and an IT Bod bitching about Track&Trace App - are all fucking Scots!!
Why don't they just piss off into Independence already?
You just need to learn how it works, all the identical measures taken up here are brilliant according to the same folk
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:02 pm
by Sandstorm
BrexitBot wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:55 pm
This is all politics now, not science.
You said it
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:03 pm
by Bimbowomxn
Sandstorm wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:02 pm
BrexitBot wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:55 pm
This is all politics now, not science.
You said it
Indeed, however you’re incredibly adherent to the message etc. Don’t you see the issue?
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:10 pm
by JM2K6
Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:55 pm
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:47 pm
Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:55 am
People ;
“We hate this government and cannot trust them”
“Ooo an app , lets download that”
It follows all the correct procedures in order to be trusted.
I’m sure it does. I’m just constantly surprised by the dichotomy regarding the “Boris is a liar” ..... “let’s trust their covid response”
This is all politics now, not science.
Boris didn't develop this.
The app has been developed in a way that's orthogonal to how Boris and chums operate their government. International collaboration, openness, rigorous inpsection by all parties, public scrutiny...
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:11 pm
by Uncle fester
Shanky’s mate wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:16 am
Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:04 am
Uncle fester wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:58 am
Going to be a long winter for anybody with kids. Every time they cough, you'll be locked down until the test comes back negative.
I got a test on Wednesday for a cold that developed into a persistent cough (which happens every time I get a cold).
Thankfully the result came back in a day, but the Mrs wasn't impressed as we had to take my son out of school yesterday.
I know it’s dreadfully inconvenient... what else is one to do when faced with a beastly pandemic?
Some of us have jobs to do.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:21 pm
by Insane_Homer
So...
£12,000,000,000 to get to this point of track and trace!
Someone's done well out of this and it's not the taxpayer.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:21 pm
by Ali Cadoo
The image of Boris trying to develop an app has just kept me chuckling for a good few minutes here, thanks.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:26 pm
by Bimbowomxn
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:10 pm
Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:55 pm
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:47 pm
It follows all the correct procedures in order to be trusted.
I’m sure it does. I’m just constantly surprised by the dichotomy regarding the “Boris is a liar” ..... “let’s trust their covid response”
This is all politics now, not science.
Boris didn't develop this.
The app has been developed in a way that's orthogonal to how Boris and chums operate their government. International collaboration, openness, rigorous inpsection by all parties, public scrutiny...
Oh ok. This will be the first time that there isn’t over reach from governments or data collectors ever.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:28 pm
by JM2K6
Happily, people can check the app's code for themselves to see what it can and can't allow. Assuming malicious use by the government and/or third parties was an essential first step in seeing whether the app was actually worth using or not.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:30 pm
by Bimbowomxn
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:28 pm
Happily, people can check the app's code for themselves to see what it can and can't allow. Assuming malicious use by the government and/or third parties was an essential first step in seeing whether the app was actually worth using or not.
Well that’s a relief.
I love that my VW polo get 95 miles to the gallon as well.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:31 pm
by Sandstorm
Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:03 pm
Sandstorm wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:02 pm
BrexitBot wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:55 pm
This is all politics now, not science.
You said it
Indeed, however you’re incredibly adherent to the message etc. Don’t you see the issue?
And your default setting is "contradiction"
Fun, innit?
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:32 pm
by Slick
Sandstorm wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:31 pm
Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:03 pm
Sandstorm wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:02 pm
You said it
Indeed, however you’re incredibly adherent to the message etc. Don’t you see the issue?
And your default setting is "contradiction"
Fun, innit?
Was just going to post similar, it's incredible.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:32 pm
by Bimbowomxn
Sandstorm wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:31 pm
Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:03 pm
Sandstorm wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:02 pm
You said it
Indeed, however you’re incredibly adherent to the message etc. Don’t you see the issue?
And your default setting is "contradiction"
Fun, innit?
Sometimes it’s funny. The economic collapse that’s coming won’t be,
Btw, disagreement with you isn’t “contradiction “ it’s just a different view, same for the jock above.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:33 pm
by Sandstorm
Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:26 pm
Oh ok. This will be the first time that there isn’t over reach from governments or data collectors ever.
So don't download the App or wear a mask. Just STFU if others think it's a good idea and want to do it for the sake of their fellow man.
Selfish, preachy cunt
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:33 pm
by JM2K6
Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:30 pm
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:28 pm
Happily, people can check the app's code for themselves to see what it can and can't allow. Assuming malicious use by the government and/or third parties was an essential first step in seeing whether the app was actually worth using or not.
Well that’s a relief.
I love that my VW polo get 95 miles to the gallon as well.
I don't think you quite understand this. Never mind.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:34 pm
by Sandstorm
Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:32 pm
Sometimes it’s funny. The economic collapse that’s coming won’t be,
Yes, we all know it's coming. We don't need you to tell us typing one-handed.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:35 pm
by Bimbowomxn
Sandstorm wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:33 pm
Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:26 pm
Oh ok. This will be the first time that there isn’t over reach from governments or data collectors ever.
So don't download the App or wear a mask. Just STFU if others think it's a good idea and want to do it for the sake of their fellow man.
Selfish, preachy cunt
I’m a good mask wearer because I don’t want to scare the fragile. I can’t down load the App sadly.
You keep cheering on the erosion of liberties while somehow hating on those doing it.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:35 pm
by Sandstorm
Fuck it. Back onto my very short Foe list you go.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:37 pm
by Bimbowomxn
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:33 pm
Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:30 pm
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:28 pm
Happily, people can check the app's code for themselves to see what it can and can't allow. Assuming malicious use by the government and/or third parties was an essential first step in seeing whether the app was actually worth using or not.
Well that’s a relief.
I love that my VW polo get 95 miles to the gallon as well.
I don't think you quite understand this. Never mind.
I understand enough to know that this level of tech cannot be trusted and that Data is very very valuable. I’m far to much of a cynic to believe in wasted opportunities.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:39 pm
by Bimbowomxn
Sandstorm wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:35 pm
Fuck it. Back onto my very short Foe list you go.
Of course I made a sensible argument regarding the conflicting positions people are happy with. There’s no way you’d bother rebutting it.
I made my points perfectly politely btw.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:05 pm
by JM2K6
The point is: They're not conflicting positions. If anything, it proves the opposite of your claim that "it's all political". This is an app being promoted by the Tory govt and people are willing to trust it precisely because it's open source, used with international collaboration, and does not try and harvest any details it does not need in order to operate. There's no shroud of secrecy, no bullshit, and no partisan political nonsense involved.
TORY GOVERNMENT BAD GRRR would see people rejecting it out of hand.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:08 pm
by Bimbowomxn
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:05 pm
The point is: They're not conflicting positions. If anything, it proves the opposite of your claim that "it's all political". This is an app being promoted by the Tory govt and people are willing to trust it precisely because it's open source, used with international collaboration, and does not try and harvest any details it does not need in order to operate. There's no shroud of secrecy, no bullshit, and no partisan political nonsense involved.
TORY GOVERNMENT BAD GRRR would see people rejecting it out of hand.
Good stuff regarding the App. That wasn’t my point . Sorry for the confusion.
I’m fairly sure the data will be misused. I don’t believe anything big tech says. I also believe when companies like Facebook hire high profile politicians like Nick Clegg the game is properly rigged.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:19 pm
by JM2K6
Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:08 pm
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:05 pm
The point is: They're not conflicting positions. If anything, it proves the opposite of your claim that "it's all political". This is an app being promoted by the Tory govt and people are willing to trust it precisely because it's open source, used with international collaboration, and does not try and harvest any details it does not need in order to operate. There's no shroud of secrecy, no bullshit, and no partisan political nonsense involved.
TORY GOVERNMENT BAD GRRR would see people rejecting it out of hand.
Good stuff regarding the App. That wasn’t my point . Sorry for the confusion.
I’m fairly sure the data will be misused. I don’t believe anything big tech says. I also believe when companies like Facebook hire high profile politicians like Nick Clegg the game is properly rigged.
I am also sure that whoever gets the data will misuse it, which is why it's important that the data collection be as minimal as possible. That was what I meant earlier by "assuming malicious use by the government and/or third parties was an essential first step in seeing whether the app was actually worth using or not". Being cynical about these things is the correct course. However, the app does need to exist.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:24 pm
by Bimbowomxn
Understood.
As we know I’m less worried about the virus so am sceptical regarding existence.
I am also concerned where this ends up.
3 week emergency powers here were to protect the NHS , we are now in week 25 with warning of another 26 weeks of restrictions. The government have massively over reached already.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:52 pm
by Uncle fester
Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:21 pm
So...
£12,000,000,000 to get to this point of track and trace!
Someone's done well out of this and it's not the taxpayer.
Did you mean to type twelve billion pounds there?
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:05 pm
by CM11
Is it the same as the Irish app? There's basically no data collection.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:11 pm
by Bimbowomxn
Uncle fester wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:52 pm
Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:21 pm
So...
£12,000,000,000 to get to this point of track and trace!
Someone's done well out of this and it's not the taxpayer.
Did you mean to type twelve billion pounds there?
Yep, apparently Hancock spaffed 10 billion on the Isle of White tested app that failed.
Re: So, coronavirus...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:19 pm
by JM2K6
HOW