2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup

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Hastoy doing a passable impression of a poor man's Ntamack in this one. 14 MEN YOU T**T, keep the ball in hand.
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JM2K6 wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 5:41 pm That was a terrible decision on the turnover. Regardless of whether he was supporting his bodyweight, the French tackler was still wrapped around the tackled player and preventing the clean out. Still, it hasn't mattered.
That this clown gets any officiating above the level of middle school playing field.......
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French sides remain uniformly terrible using a man adv.
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Leinster 23 8 at 55 minutes
Ulster looking tired after so much defending
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23 15 after great line out drive by Ulster
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This is a mess now, neither side having to worry about offsides as soon as play becomes a bit unstructured
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LaR persist in aimlessly kicking the ball away. :thumbdown:
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Leinster 30 15 at 65 minutes
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That is ugly. Some 23 stone fat fuck croc rolls Ackerman while putting weight on the standing leg.
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JM2K6 wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 6:07 pm That is ugly. Some 23 stone fat fuck croc rolls Ackerman while putting weight on the standing leg.
He was offed by Racing for being too unfit :lol:
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 5:49 pm French sides remain uniformly terrible using a man adv.
Lions went down to 14 at 18 minutes, and are now winning by 20 points with 7 minutes to go against Racing 92.

I'm wonder if I made the wrong choice of match to watch.
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Gloucester is a nice team to watch, too bad they don’t have a good FH now.

Teddy might score tries every other games, but he’s such a reliability in defense.
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LaR flying off their feet to tackle defenders at these rucks, and why wouldn't you
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Marylandolorian wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 6:12 pm Gloucester is a nice team to watch, too bad they don’t have a good FH now.

Teddy might score tries every other games, but he’s such a reliability in defense.
Do you perhaps mean liability, Mandy? Reliable in defense would mean you can trust him there.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 6:13 pm
Marylandolorian wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 6:12 pm Gloucester is a nice team to watch, too bad they don’t have a good FH now.

Teddy might score tries every other games, but he’s such a reliability in defense.
Do you perhaps mean liability, Mandy? Reliable in defense would mean you can trust him there.
Lol , it’s what I meant ( I was thinking not reliable )
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Impressive control and power meets impressive defence and determination. Winger nearly blew it though. Shame, think Glaws have deserved this, but that's what you get for having the temerity to turn up with a normal sized team.
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Finally someone gives Thomas the ball :evil:
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Racing92 were the worst team I've seen today, no clue if that was their best side (surely it cannot be?), but there were some test capped players in their side. They were a man up for 62 minutes, but the Lions still easily won and put over 50 points on them. On that performance Racing 92 are a bottom half of the log CC team.
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JM2K6 wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 6:19 pm Impressive control and power meets impressive defence and determination. Winger nearly blew it though. Shame, think Glaws have deserved this, but that's what you get for having the temerity to turn up with a normal sized team.
One wonders why Glaws play with 1/10th that commitment the rest of the time.
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Fantastic game for the neutral
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 6:20 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 6:19 pm Impressive control and power meets impressive defence and determination. Winger nearly blew it though. Shame, think Glaws have deserved this, but that's what you get for having the temerity to turn up with a normal sized team.
One wonders why Glaws play with 1/10th that commitment the rest of the time.
I was just thinking that Skivington must be looking at this performance and wondering where the hell it's come from given their usual level.
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I miss the days of referees deciding to pay attention to off your feet calls in the last minute. Comical final ruck - but consistent with the rest of the match. Ah well. Not much more glaws could've done here. Outplayed LaR but the sheer weight of, erm, weight finally told. Great contest.
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_Os_ wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 6:20 pm Racing92 were the worst team I've seen today, no clue if that was their best side (surely it cannot be?), but there were some test capped players in their side. They were a man up for 62 minutes, but the Lions still easily won and put over 50 points on them. On that performance Racing 92 are a bottom half of the log CC team.
It was a 2nd-3rd string team. Whenever you see Vol-au-vent selected, you know they aren't even interested. There can't ever been a greater spoofer who has cadged a living as a pro rugby player than him. But they've been garbage for quite some time even with a 1st team. The place has become a joke, playboy club.
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JM2K6 wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 6:22 pm I miss the days of referees deciding to pay attention to off your feet calls in the last minute. Comical final ruck - but consistent with the rest of the match. Ah well. Not much more glaws could've done here. Outplayed LaR but the sheer weight of, erm, weight finally told. Great contest.
Better side on the day lost. Adamson remains a sh*t stain on any rugby pitch. I suspect ROG will be tearing strips off his side for getting sucked into the harem scarem. TKB is another in the production line of SHs worldwide who does more to aid opposition defences than anything opponents do by permanently slowing the ball down. Actually outdid Christie's eggtimer show this morning.
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JM2K6 wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 6:22 pm I miss the days of referees deciding to pay attention to off your feet calls in the last minute. Comical final ruck - but consistent with the rest of the match. Ah well. Not much more glaws could've done here. Outplayed LaR but the sheer weight of, erm, weight finally told. Great contest.
Watching bits of a few games today, including the Scottish women, it seems as if refs have been told not to bother with attacking players cleaning out rucks from the side. Was apparent in much of the 6N (Ireland, followed by everyone) and now all teams have realised it’s not being reffed. We have such a weird sport
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Slick wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 7:03 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 6:22 pm I miss the days of referees deciding to pay attention to off your feet calls in the last minute. Comical final ruck - but consistent with the rest of the match. Ah well. Not much more glaws could've done here. Outplayed LaR but the sheer weight of, erm, weight finally told. Great contest.
Watching bits of a few games today, including the Scottish women, it seems as if refs have been told not to bother with attacking players cleaning out rucks from the side. Was apparent in much of the 6N (Ireland, followed by everyone) and now all teams have realised it’s not being reffed. We have such a weird sport
Can’t agree more.
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Slick wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 7:03 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 6:22 pm I miss the days of referees deciding to pay attention to off your feet calls in the last minute. Comical final ruck - but consistent with the rest of the match. Ah well. Not much more glaws could've done here. Outplayed LaR but the sheer weight of, erm, weight finally told. Great contest.
Watching bits of a few games today, including the Scottish women, it seems as if refs have been told not to bother with attacking players cleaning out rucks from the side. Was apparent in much of the 6N (Ireland, followed by everyone) and now all teams have realised it’s not being reffed. We have such a weird sport
And not just clearing from the side but dangerously so i.e. lifting players in the air which would be carded in a tackle situation.
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Slick wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 7:03 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 6:22 pm I miss the days of referees deciding to pay attention to off your feet calls in the last minute. Comical final ruck - but consistent with the rest of the match. Ah well. Not much more glaws could've done here. Outplayed LaR but the sheer weight of, erm, weight finally told. Great contest.
Watching bits of a few games today, including the Scottish women, it seems as if refs have been told not to bother with attacking players cleaning out rucks from the side. Was apparent in much of the 6N (Ireland, followed by everyone) and now all teams have realised it’s not being reffed. We have such a weird sport
Ah, I’m glad somebody else has said that. I’ve muttered “In from the side” any number of times recently without anything happening.
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 6:27 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 6:22 pm I miss the days of referees deciding to pay attention to off your feet calls in the last minute. Comical final ruck - but consistent with the rest of the match. Ah well. Not much more glaws could've done here. Outplayed LaR but the sheer weight of, erm, weight finally told. Great contest.
Better side on the day lost. Adamson remains a sh*t stain on any rugby pitch. I suspect ROG will be tearing strips off his side for getting sucked into the harem scarem. TKB is another in the production line of SHs worldwide who does more to aid opposition defences than anything opponents do by permanently slowing the ball down. Actually outdid Christie's eggtimer show this morning.
Adamson is a shite ref. Rassie will make a long video.
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Cardiff 28 Sale 27
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FalseBayFC wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 3:48 pm Reporting in from a chilly Newlands. Its bloody going off here. Covered in beer.
Our local senior club Milnerton had a T20 final for the region at the Newlands cricket ground in the morning. 2 of my boys coaches were playing as well as a friends son , so we spent the morning there supporting. Was a cracker of a morning with lovely weather. Was tempted to go to the rugby, but 4 hours with a 9 year old was enough for the day.
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Today will be one of the very very few days I hope the Bulls win

Gaan Bulle joy lekker ding!

Any ideas what time the final on 20th May might be? Will be on a flight on 18:35 CET and have a feeling I will miss the Sharks winning
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Leicester the only Prem side through so far although Sarasins and Chiefs should both follow.
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 8:15 am Leicester the only Prem side through so far although Sarasins and Chiefs should both follow.
Leicester were awful though and beat an even more awful Edinburgh who haven't won on the road for a long time and sit 14 out of 16 in the league. Edinburgh practically gave them the win on Friday night. Mid table Cardiff beat Sale, 2nd top of the Premiership. Quins and Gloucester a bit unlucky?

Interesting games today!
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dpedin wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 8:22 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 8:15 am Leicester the only Prem side through so far although Sarasins and Chiefs should both follow.
Leicester were awful though and beat an even more awful Edinburgh who haven't won on the road for a long time and sit 14 out of 16 in the league. Edinburgh practically gave them the win on Friday night. Mid table Cardiff beat Sale, 2nd top of the Premiership. Quins and Gloucester a bit unlucky?

Interesting games today!
I assumed Sale had put out a scratch side but no.

Exeter aren’t going anywhere, Sarries probably ought to win and then have the joy of La Rochelle away I believe, as Leicester travel to Dublin.
Gloucester unlucky, Quins were very much second best even if the ref didn’t help. Not a great year for us.
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Predictably ROG not at all impressed and gives an honest appraisal
https://www.rugbyrama.fr/2023/04/02/cha ... 106337.php

Again, he has to pick up on Fre mentality when it comes to playing oppos that, on paper, they expect to beat.
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Paddington Bear wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 8:30 am
dpedin wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 8:22 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 8:15 am Leicester the only Prem side through so far although Sarasins and Chiefs should both follow.
Leicester were awful though and beat an even more awful Edinburgh who haven't won on the road for a long time and sit 14 out of 16 in the league. Edinburgh practically gave them the win on Friday night. Mid table Cardiff beat Sale, 2nd top of the Premiership. Quins and Gloucester a bit unlucky?

Interesting games today!
I assumed Sale had put out a scratch side but no.

Exeter aren’t going anywhere, Sarries probably ought to win and then have the joy of La Rochelle away I believe, as Leicester travel to Dublin.
Gloucester unlucky, Quins were very much second best even if the ref didn’t help. Not a great year for us.
The Sale result pretty much sums up for me why England is struggling. English title challengers field full strength side against URC oppos lying at the bottom end of its comp and lose. Second season running where English representation is going to be negligible. Last season I thought it was just one of those things but after the "Celts" comp. being a joke pretty much forever (propped up solely by the Irish), it really looks like it's England that has the sick man now.
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 8:36 am Predictably ROG not at all impressed and gives an honest appraisal
https://www.rugbyrama.fr/2023/04/02/cha ... 106337.php

Again, he has to pick up on Fre mentality when it comes to playing oppos that, on paper, they expect to beat.
Tbh but for a very sympathetic Francophile official Glaws would have won easily.
Shameful really
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 8:42 am
Paddington Bear wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 8:30 am
dpedin wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 8:22 am

Leicester were awful though and beat an even more awful Edinburgh who haven't won on the road for a long time and sit 14 out of 16 in the league. Edinburgh practically gave them the win on Friday night. Mid table Cardiff beat Sale, 2nd top of the Premiership. Quins and Gloucester a bit unlucky?

Interesting games today!
I assumed Sale had put out a scratch side but no.

Exeter aren’t going anywhere, Sarries probably ought to win and then have the joy of La Rochelle away I believe, as Leicester travel to Dublin.
Gloucester unlucky, Quins were very much second best even if the ref didn’t help. Not a great year for us.
The Sale result pretty much sums up for me why England is struggling. English title challengers field full strength side against URC oppos lying at the bottom end of its comp and lose. Second season running where English representation is going to be negligible. Last season I thought it was just one of those things but after the "Celts" comp. being a joke pretty much forever (propped up solely by the Irish), it really looks like it's England that has the sick man now.
Great game, well I would say that. So that was Sale’s regular scrum that was taken to the cleaner’s? I finally saw what the fuss is about with Mason Grady and Priestland had a blinder. Tuilagi did less damage than I feared.
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GogLais wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 8:54 am
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 8:42 am
Paddington Bear wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 8:30 am

I assumed Sale had put out a scratch side but no.

Exeter aren’t going anywhere, Sarries probably ought to win and then have the joy of La Rochelle away I believe, as Leicester travel to Dublin.
Gloucester unlucky, Quins were very much second best even if the ref didn’t help. Not a great year for us.
The Sale result pretty much sums up for me why England is struggling. English title challengers field full strength side against URC oppos lying at the bottom end of its comp and lose. Second season running where English representation is going to be negligible. Last season I thought it was just one of those things but after the "Celts" comp. being a joke pretty much forever (propped up solely by the Irish), it really looks like it's England that has the sick man now.
Great game, well I would say that. So that was Sale’s regular scrum that was taken to the cleaner’s? I finally saw what the fuss is about with Mason Grady and Priestland had a blinder. Tuilagi did less damage than I feared.
Grady seemed to come of age today, a nice turn off pace and looked assured and pacey was the best Centre on the pitch.
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