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Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 12:50 am yeah bUt hAmAs

MungoMan wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:34 am

Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 12:50 am yeah bUt hAmAs

If I had a hama
I'd ring it in the morning

A US resolution urging a ceasefire in Gaza linked to a hostage deal has been vetoed by Russia and China in the UN security council, extending a five-month impasse in the international body over the Israel-Hamas war.

Eleven council members voted for the resolution on Friday morning; Russia, China and Algeria voted against it and Guyana abstained. As permanent security council members the Russian and Chinese votes counted as vetoes.

Before the vote, the Russian envoy to the UN, Vasily Nebenzya, pointed out that the US had vetoed four earlier resolutions demanding a ceasefire since the war started on 7 October, and noted that the US resolution did not directly demand a ceasefire but rather described it as an “imperative”.

“To save the lives of the peaceful Palestinian civilians, this is not enough,” Nebenzya said. He added that any council member voting for the resolution “will cover yourselves in disgrace”.


After the vote, the US envoy, Linda Thomas-Greenfield, said Russia and China had opposed the resolution because they could not bring themselves to support the clauses in it condemning Hamas.

“The second reason behind this veto is not just cynical, it’s also petty,” Thomas-Greenfield said. “Russia and China simply did not want to vote for a resolution that was penned by the United States because they would rather see us fail than to see this council succeed.”

Another resolution has been drafted by elected members of the council with a direct demand for a ceasefire, but Thomas-Greenfield warned that the US would veto that text if it was presented for a vote, on the grounds that it did not support negotiations underway in Doha on a deal which would establish a ceasefire in return for Hamas freeing its hostages

C69 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 3:04 pm The state of Khan Younis after the surgical strikes of Israel.
Not targetting civilians or civilian areas at all

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:55 am https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/s/VrdWpanH0l

Walking while Hamas

Ymx wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 4:19 pm

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:55 am https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/s/VrdWpanH0l

Walking while Hamas

TH will be over to verifying this shortly. TH verify.

Oh wait, he’s already posted since …

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 4:31 pm Do you really want to use the deaths of four people to make an internet points jibe?

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 4:31 pm

Ymx wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 4:19 pm

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:55 am https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/s/VrdWpanH0l

Walking while Hamas

TH will be over to verifying this shortly. TH verify.

Oh wait, he’s already posted since …

I didn't know what the link was until I clicked through. I couldn't view the video because I was not signed in to Reddit to verify my age, I've no wish to do that or to see the sort of deaths you have been cheerleading.

Do you really want to use the deaths of four people to make an internet points jibe?

Explaining his nation’s vote against the US resolution, the Algerian ambassador to the UN, Amar Bendjama, pointed to the absence of a direct demand for an immediate ceasefire.

“The text presented today does not convey a clear message of peace,” Bendjama told the council. “It is a laissez passer to continue killing the Palestinian civilians.”

Hugo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:51 pm

Awful that great power politics are causing further loss of Palestinian life. They really should abolish the veto as was recently suggested by Malaysia.

Hugo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 7:48 pm

Bro..... Imagine seeing what you are seeing in Gaza and your thinking is "I can't wait until I can get my hand on some Gazan real estate.....".

I can't even see how people would be looking at this type of devastation with an opportunistic mindset.

Hugo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 7:48 pm

Bro..... Imagine seeing what you are seeing in Gaza and your thinking is "I can't wait until I can get my hand on some Gazan real estate.....".

I can't even see how people would be looking at this type of devastation with an opportunistic mindset.

Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:40 am

MungoMan wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:34 am

Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 12:50 am yeah bUt hAmAs

If I had a hama
I'd ring it in the morning

We are both old enough, I think, to remember


'I'd like to buy the world a coke...'

Gumboot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:13 pm

Hugo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 7:48 pm

Bro..... Imagine seeing what you are seeing in Gaza and your thinking is "I can't wait until I can get my hand on some Gazan real estate.....".

I can't even see how people would be looking at this type of devastation with an opportunistic mindset.

“Gaza’s waterfront property could be very valuable … if people would focus on building up livelihoods... It’s a little bit of an unfortunate situation there, but from Israel’s perspective I would do my best to move the people out and then clean it up.”
- Jared Kushner

Calculon wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:59 am She reminds me of all those Palestinians who fantasize about driving the Jews out of Israel so they can live there.


TBF, this lady's dreams are a bit more realistic.

Tilly Orifice wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:40 am

Calculon wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:59 am She reminds me of all those Palestinians who fantasize about driving the Jews out of Israel so they can live there.


TBF, this lady's dreams are a bit more realistic.

That's good, eh?

Tilly Orifice wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:40 am

Calculon wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:59 am She reminds me of all those Palestinians who fantasize about driving the Jews out of Israel so they can live there.


TBF, this lady's dreams are a bit more realistic.

That's good, eh?

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:40 am Watch the hands, not the eyes.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-ap ... tate-land/

C69 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:30 am

Gumboot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:13 pm

Hugo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 7:48 pm

Bro..... Imagine seeing what you are seeing in Gaza and your thinking is "I can't wait until I can get my hand on some Gazan real estate.....".

I can't even see how people would be looking at this type of devastation with an opportunistic mindset.

“Gaza’s waterfront property could be very valuable … if people would focus on building up livelihoods... It’s a little bit of an unfortunate situation there, but from Israel’s perspective I would do my best to move the people out and then clean it up.”
- Jared Kushner

Right wing nutters do like a bit of genocide and ethnic cleansing.
Tbh remember this is a guy who was one of the architects of the. USA's ME direction only a few years ago.

Slick wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:47 am Got pretty annoyed with a Palestinian protest outside Barclays Bank on Princess Street on Saturday. A bunch of very aggressive students with megaphones trying to intimidate everyone going in to the branch. One ran up to an old lady of about 70 and screamed through the megaphone into her face, really upsetting her. A couple of police there did absolutely nothing, even after I went and had a word.

Blackmac wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:24 pm Police investigate 'attack' on poppy seller at pro-Palestinian demo in Edinburgh https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland- ... e-67344032

Apparently the majority involved in this protest were students from Edinburgh University. My mates daughter is in her first year there and says life is almost intolerable because of it. Kids getting press ganged by threats and intimidation to sign up to financial support for Palestine, antisemitism is off the scale and Hamas flags and t-shirts being openly displayed. Anyone who doesn't fall in line is having their life made a misery. She pointed this out to one of her tutors and his advice was stay away from campus until it subsides.

Calculon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:26 am

Slick wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:47 am Got pretty annoyed with a Palestinian protest outside Barclays Bank on Princess Street on Saturday. A bunch of very aggressive students with megaphones trying to intimidate everyone going in to the branch. One ran up to an old lady of about 70 and screamed through the megaphone into her face, really upsetting her. A couple of police there did absolutely nothing, even after I went and had a word.

maybe same students as these:

Blackmac wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:24 pm Police investigate 'attack' on poppy seller at pro-Palestinian demo in Edinburgh https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland- ... e-67344032

Apparently the majority involved in this protest were students from Edinburgh University. My mates daughter is in her first year there and says life is almost intolerable because of it. Kids getting press ganged by threats and intimidation to sign up to financial support for Palestine, antisemitism is off the scale and Hamas flags and t-shirts being openly displayed. Anyone who doesn't fall in line is having their life made a misery. She pointed this out to one of her tutors and his advice was stay away from campus until it subsides.

C69 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:16 pm

Calculon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:26 am

Slick wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:47 am Got pretty annoyed with a Palestinian protest outside Barclays Bank on Princess Street on Saturday. A bunch of very aggressive students with megaphones trying to intimidate everyone going in to the branch. One ran up to an old lady of about 70 and screamed through the megaphone into her face, really upsetting her. A couple of police there did absolutely nothing, even after I went and had a word.

maybe same students as these:

Blackmac wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:24 pm Police investigate 'attack' on poppy seller at pro-Palestinian demo in Edinburgh https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland- ... e-67344032

Apparently the majority involved in this protest were students from Edinburgh University. My mates daughter is in her first year there and says life is almost intolerable because of it. Kids getting press ganged by threats and intimidation to sign up to financial support for Palestine, antisemitism is off the scale and Hamas flags and t-shirts being openly displayed. Anyone who doesn't fall in line is having their life made a misery. She pointed this out to one of her tutors and his advice was stay away from campus until it subsides.

The attack was found to be false

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:08 am

C69 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:30 am

Gumboot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 8:13 pm

“Gaza’s waterfront property could be very valuable … if people would focus on building up livelihoods... It’s a little bit of an unfortunate situation there, but from Israel’s perspective I would do my best to move the people out and then clean it up.”
- Jared Kushner

Right wing nutters do like a bit of genocide and ethnic cleansing.
Tbh remember this is a guy who was one of the architects of the. USA's ME direction only a few years ago.

"You can call it ethnic cleansing if you like"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68650815

Israel-Gaza war live: UN security council passes immediate ceasefire resolution; US ‘disappointed’ after Israel cancels visit

Netanyahu cancels high-level Israeli delegation’s visit to Washington after US abstains in UN security council vote

UNITED NATIONS/CAIRO, March 25 (Reuters) - The United Nations Security Council adopted a resolution on Monday demanding an immediate ceasefire between Israel and Palestinian militants Hamas after the United States abstained from the vote, sparking a spat with its ally Israel.
The remaining 14 council members voted for the resolution, which was proposed by the 10 elected members of the body. There was a round of applause in the council chamber after the vote.
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"This resolution must be implemented. Failure would be unforgivable," U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres posted on social media.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said the failure of the U.S. to veto the resolution was a "clear retreat" from its previous position and would hurt Israel's war efforts and bid to release more than 130 hostages still held by Hamas.

"Our vote does not, and I repeat that does not represent a shift in our policy," White House spokesperson John Kirby told reporters. "Nothing has changed about our policy. Nothing."
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Following the U.N. vote, Netanyahu canceled a visit to Washington by a high-level delegation that was due to discuss a planned Israeli military operation in the southern Gaza city of Rafah, where some 1.5 million Palestinians have sought shelter.

The U.S. was perplexed by Israel's decision and considered it an overreaction, said a U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Washington had been averse to the word ceasefire earlier in the nearly six-month-old war in the Gaza Strip and had used its veto power to shield ally Israel as it retaliated against Hamas for an Oct. 7 attack that Israel says killed 1,200 people.
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But as famine looms in Gaza and amid growing global pressure for a truce in the war that Palestinian health authorities say has killed some 32,000 people, the U.S. abstained on Monday to allow the Security Council to demand an immediate ceasefire for the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan, which ends in two weeks.

"It was the Hamas massacre that started this war," Israel's U.N. Ambassador Gilad Erdan said. "The resolution just voted upon makes it seem as if the war started by itself... Israel did not start this war, nor did Israel want this war."
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Hamas welcomed the Security Council resolution, saying in a statement that it "affirms readiness to engage in immediate prisoner swaps on both sides."
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U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Linda Thomas-Greenfield said the U.S. fully supported "some of the critical objectives in this non-binding resolution," but added that Washington did not agree with everything in the text, which also did not condemn Hamas.
Members of the United Nations Security Council vote on a Gaza resolution that demands an immediate ceasefire, in New York

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China's U.N. Ambassador Zhang Jun said Security Council resolutions are binding.

"For the millions of people in Gaza, who remain mired in an unprecedented humanitarian catastrophe, this resolution - if fully and effectively implemented - could still bring long awaited hope," he told the council.

Deputy U.N. spokesperson Farhan Haq said Security Council resolutions are international law, "so to that extent they are as binding as international law is."

However, ultimately if there is no ceasefire in Gaza, it is unlikely the Security Council will take any further action.
The resolution also demands the immediate and unconditional release of all hostages. Israel says Hamas took 253 hostages during its Oct. 7 attack.

"We believe it was important for the council to speak out and make clear that any ceasefire must come with the release of all hostages," Thomas-Greenfield told the council. "A ceasefire can begin immediately with the release of the first hostage and so we must put pressure on Hamas to do just that."

The resolution also "emphasizes the urgent need to expand the flow of humanitarian assistance to and reinforce the protection of civilians in the entire Gaza Strip and reiterates its demand for the lifting of all barriers to the provision of humanitarian assistance at scale."
Guterres urged Israel on Monday to lift all obstacles to aid into Gaza and allow convoys of the U.N. Palestinian refugee agency UNRWA into the north of the coastal enclave.

Famine is imminent and likely to occur by May in northern Gaza and could spread across the enclave by July, according to a U.N.-backed report by a global authority on food security released last week.

Displaced Palestinians in Rafah hoped a ceasefire would be implemented.

"We hope that this time there will be a ceasefire so that things will calm down and people can go back to their homes - enough bloodshed, destruction, martyrs, and death," Wafaa Al-Deais told Reuters as he made tea on a fire outside a tent.

The U.S. has vetoed three draft council resolutions on the war in Gaza. It has also previously abstained twice, allowing the council to adopt resolutions that aimed to boost aid to Gaza and called for extended pauses in fighting.

Russia and China have also vetoed two U.S. drafted resolutions on the conflict - in October and on Friday.
"This must be a turning point," an emotional Palestinian U.N. envoy Riyad Mansour told the Security Council after the vote on Monday. "This must lead to saving lives on the ground."

In an unusually strong rebuke, a statement from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office said the US had "abandoned" its previous position which had directly linked a ceasefire to a hostage release.

"Regrettably, the United States did not veto the new resolution," it said.

The statement said this harmed efforts to release hostages by giving Hamas hope it could use international pressure on Israel to achieve a ceasefire without freeing the captives.

Ymx wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:36 pm Where was the admission to using collective punishment?

Collective punishment is what Hamas propaganda is shouting from its megaphones whilst stealing aid and hiding behind civilians.