Re: Springbokke going forward
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:44 pm
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Ja, I'm not happy with 12 and 13 either.average joe wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:51 am More stressed about the centres. Three crowbars and no playmaker. To many much sameness
What are your thoughts on RJVR?Blake wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 7:49 amJa, I'm not happy with 12 and 13 either.average joe wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:51 am More stressed about the centres. Three crowbars and no playmaker. To many much sameness
Kriel has not impressed at 13 at all. some people harp on about his understanding of the Bok defense and I get that, but There is a huge step down from Am to Kriel, especially on attack. Kriel creates nothing; no space for the wing, no options for an inside runner, no threat as somebody that might break the line. Watching Henco van Wyk with interest, because we seriously need some depth after Am.
DDA has been a dud for 3 years now. Had a great RWC in 2019, and has regressed as a playe. Living off of reputation at this point. Doesn't bosh well anymore, doesn't seem able to pass (which was never a strength of his anyway) and how now added a very shit kicking game to his repertoire. Those grubbers into touch he keeps kicking when he has a 2 man overlap and doesn't trust his passing game drive me up the fucking wall. I've never been a fan of Esterhuizen, but I'd rather have him at 12 right now. His performances at Quins proves that Nienaber and Rassie haven't managed to get the best out of him as a player. If Willemse wasn't needed at 10, I'd prefer him at 12 over DDA as well; at least he tries to be a playmaker and create some opportunities. DDA is a black hole. Most of our tries come when he hasn't touched the ball.
He's always been a quality player. Looked good at the Lions. Didn't really follow him closely at Sale, only really saw him feature in some highlight packages here and there.
Eskom having a horror run with injuries.OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:45 pm South Africa A update:
IN: Elrigh Louw, Leolin Zas and JJ Kotze
OUT: Sbu Nkosi, Marco van Staden and Jan-Hendrik Wessels
Those replacements make a lot more sense than the first team replacements. Like for likehandyman wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:45 amEskom having a horror run with injuries.OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:45 pm South Africa A update:
IN: Elrigh Louw, Leolin Zas and JJ Kotze
OUT: Sbu Nkosi, Marco van Staden and Jan-Hendrik Wessels
A bit like RG Snyman. I have a horrible feeling that they won't come out the other side. Having said that, Marcell Coetzee went through something similar and is now unbreakable. Touch wood.handyman wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:45 amEskom having a horror run with injuries.OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:45 pm South Africa A update:
IN: Elrigh Louw, Leolin Zas and JJ Kotze
OUT: Sbu Nkosi, Marco van Staden and Jan-Hendrik Wessels
Now you have jinxed itFalseBayFC wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:20 pmA bit like RG Snyman. I have a horrible feeling that they won't come out the other side. Having said that, Marcell Coetzee went through something similar and is now unbreakable. Touch wood.handyman wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:45 amEskom having a horror run with injuries.OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:45 pm South Africa A update:
IN: Elrigh Louw, Leolin Zas and JJ Kotze
OUT: Sbu Nkosi, Marco van Staden and Jan-Hendrik Wessels
What was worst for me was that they disregarded all the other young flyhalves and put all their money on Willemse and when he started missing he just gave up and let Kolbe take over the kicking duties. That was dik swak.boere wors wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 8:31 pm The arrogance of our coaching team regarding selections is just ridiculous. Expecting Willemse to just walk into the flyhalf position against the no 1 Team in the world. Kolbe likewise into fullback. The boks were poor and without a proper goalkicker and flyhalf are going to be in for a tough November
Our scrum was not working yesterday. Kittsie and Malherbe did not dominate. Fourie was okBlake wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:26 am Kitshoff, Malherbe and Fourie all played okay. Which Stormers player other than Willemse played badly?
Willemse had a bad day, kicking that is. Surely you enjoy it.Sards wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:24 am Where is ouboet to defend wunderkind.
Where are all those that slated me for saying Rassnabber was making a huge mistake for not getting Manie in when Pollard got injured. Where are all of those that criticised me when I said our backline does not work with Willemse.
Vok you all. Enjoy the bitter taste of defeat. And yes. The Stormers players lost us that test
In all aspects of flyhalf play. And it was cowardly to give the kicking duties to Kolbe. Especially when he had been practicing the whole week. And I hate losing a game because of 1 playerOomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:28 amWillemse had a bad day, kicking that is. Surely you enjoy it.Sards wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:24 am Where is ouboet to defend wunderkind.
Where are all those that slated me for saying Rassnabber was making a huge mistake for not getting Manie in when Pollard got injured. Where are all of those that criticised me when I said our backline does not work with Willemse.
Vok you all. Enjoy the bitter taste of defeat. And yes. The Stormers players lost us that test
Give him credit. He refuses to change his mind.
Reluctant to speculate on whether the travails off the tee could mean an unexpected debut for Manie Libbok against France next week, Nienaber instead suggested Willemse and Co must put in the hard yards at training.
"We're working on it. We and the players measure their goalkicking, so they know at what percentage they're kicking at during the week," he said.
Imho the bomb squad is only about force. Replace the whole right five at 50-60 min when they have emptied their tank. 2 locks for that on the bench. If you play Eben for 80 min, the whole thing doesnt work.assfly wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:54 am I actually think we played quite well, bar Willemse. That was a seriously good test match against a quality team.
As well as flyhalf, I feel our bomb squad isn't what it used to be. The Fourie selection still baffles me; I just don't see the merit of having a fetcher on the bench when it was always going to be a tight game. Either start him, or put a proper impact player on the bench.
Your mind can boggles as much as you like. That kick was in front of 50,000Sards wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:08 amGive him credit. He refuses to change his mind.
Reluctant to speculate on whether the travails off the tee could mean an unexpected debut for Manie Libbok against France next week, Nienaber instead suggested Willemse and Co must put in the hard yards at training.
"We're working on it. We and the players measure their goalkicking, so they know at what percentage they're kicking at during the week," he said.
Does this vokker have any clue to the fact that kicking at posts in an empty stadium with no pressure is not the same as kicking in a full stadium and under pressure......the mind boggles...![]()
That was a great kick under pressure. So what. He will have to slot >80% of all his kicks during a game. From every position on the field. Willemse is clearly not capable of doing that. No offence to him, he should never have been the goal kicker for the boks. Why would he? He doesnt do it for the stormers. Let alone be the playmaker. Libbok is in the squad, he would be that guy, as for the stormers. That arrogance...OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:25 pmYour mind can boggles as much as you like. That kick was in front of 50,000Sards wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:08 amGive him credit. He refuses to change his mind.
Reluctant to speculate on whether the travails off the tee could mean an unexpected debut for Manie Libbok against France next week, Nienaber instead suggested Willemse and Co must put in the hard yards at training.
"We're working on it. We and the players measure their goalkicking, so they know at what percentage they're kicking at during the week," he said.
Does this vokker have any clue to the fact that kicking at posts in an empty stadium with no pressure is not the same as kicking in a full stadium and under pressure......the mind boggles...![]()
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Vok jou man. Libbok also kick for shite for a long time. Now he is ask to kick, do that make him arrogant?boere wors wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:22 pmThat was a great kick under pressure. So what. He will have to slot >80% of all his kicks during a game. From every position on the field. Willemse is clearly not capable of doing that. No offence to him, he should never have been the goal kicker for the boks. Why would he? He doesnt do it for the stormers. Let alone be the playmaker. Libbok is in the squad, he would be that guy, as for the stormers. That arrogance...OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:25 pmYour mind can boggles as much as you like. That kick was in front of 50,000Sards wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:08 am
Give him credit. He refuses to change his mind.
Does this vokker have any clue to the fact that kicking at posts in an empty stadium with no pressure is not the same as kicking in a full stadium and under pressure......the mind boggles...![]()
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Intruding on your thread to just say that that ship has sadly sailed.Sards wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:34 pm And in other news.
Rassie has made a new video to highlight how the refs have it in for the Springboks......![]()
I seriously hope the rest of the world doesn't think we are all bad losers.
Hint for Rassie. Get a specialist kicker and we won't have to resort to looking for excuses
Jealous AF
Totally. Bofelli is an outstanding kicker.
I am still struggling to understandOomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 6:29 pmJa, try to explain this to Sards whose Sharks team play exactly the same. He wants Libbok because it hurt him to see Willemse in 10 in a Bok jersey. Willemse is good enough to slot in 10/15 or 12 because he got the skills Sards struggle to understand.Chilli wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 5:01 pmLibbok can't play the Rasnaber way.OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 3:10 pm
Now why would I be anti Libbok? Your team didn't renew his contract and you write him off. We made a star out of him.
Rasnaber have already selected their group of players which include Johan Goosen.
Do you think they'll select someone from they outside before their big squad?
This is why he was a failure at the Bulls and a failure at the $harks.
At the WP/ Stormers they are trying to play a more complete game, with less of the mindless kicking of the ball away.
If chosen by Rasnaber and forced to play the Rasnaber game plan, he will fail again.
Tried and tested. Eisch. He really has proven himself to be a petulant made up superstar after they refused to bring anyone else into the squad and left him as the only option and what happened. He couldn't carry through and in the process did huge damage to Kolbes reputation.OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:33 pm Damian Willemse will be our 10.
Tried and tested per Nienaber
We are comfortable with Damian and he has proven himself,” added Nienaber