NPR

.OverThere wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:11 pm The EU compromise with JP was that the Japanese have 16 years to reduce then eliminate their 29% tarriff on various soft cheese types. The Japanese are trying to protect their (soft) cheese manufacturers. The UK just playing politics with what in reality is a product that the Japs may not actually buy.
They are just reaching for the headline, "our deal is wider" despite there may not be any economic impact.

Soundbite spin bullshit.
Well Japan is not playing ball as every pyrrhic victory obtained by UK is in fact a political defeat back home for them.

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:06 pm Don't forget Cummings job isn't to advance Brexit, the Tories or anything else, it's to undermine public confidence in the government, the parliamentary system and the judiciary to the point where it is either utterly ineffective or the public demands something else. He might be be the Grima Wormtongue of this Government but he isn't the Saruman, that's some utter shitbags over in the US.

Line6 HXFX wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:43 pm

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:06 pm Don't forget Cummings job isn't to advance Brexit, the Tories or anything else, it's to undermine public confidence in the government, the parliamentary system and the judiciary to the point where it is either utterly ineffective or the public demands something else. He might be be the Grima Wormtongue of this Government but he isn't the Saruman, that's some utter shitbags over in the US.

Interesting article here, this guy has read everything Cummings has written in the last decade.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2 ... servatives

Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:24 pm The wheat crop in the UK if not exactly failing is coming in well below expectations, this will bump the cost of flour, Brexit is also set to increase the cost of importing flour. Win win for someone probably, feck knows who

Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:24 pm The wheat crop in the UK if not exactly failing is coming in well below expectations, this will bump the cost of flour, Brexit is also set to increase the cost of importing flour. Win win for someone probably, feck knows who

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:43 pm

Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:24 pm The wheat crop in the UK if not exactly failing is coming in well below expectations, this will bump the cost of flour, Brexit is also set to increase the cost of importing flour. Win win for someone probably, feck knows who

https://www.bcfta.org.uk/content/large/ ... t_note.pdf

WTO Tariff on Flour is ~30%, & the UK is/was a Net exporter. The prediction already was that WTO Tariff would eliminate any exports, as uneconomic.

Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:24 pm The wheat crop in the UK if not exactly failing is coming in well below expectations, this will bump the cost of flour, Brexit is also set to increase the cost of importing flour. Win win for someone probably, feck knows who

spike wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:32 pm

Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:24 pm The wheat crop in the UK if not exactly failing is coming in well below expectations, this will bump the cost of flour, Brexit is also set to increase the cost of importing flour. Win win for someone probably, feck knows who

We produce about 10 million tonnes of wheat in the UK worst case, of which c 2.5% is exported, and much less imported. So there's the scale of the issue.

Ovals wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:45 pm

spike wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:32 pm

Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:24 pm The wheat crop in the UK if not exactly failing is coming in well below expectations, this will bump the cost of flour, Brexit is also set to increase the cost of importing flour. Win win for someone probably, feck knows who

We produce about 10 million tonnes of wheat in the UK worst case, of which c 2.5% is exported, and much less imported. So there's the scale of the issue.

Shouldn't be a problem with our wheat crop this year, believed to be down by as much as 40% - we won't be exporting anyway.

Glaston wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:14 pm Fishfoodie, UK is not Belgium.
Wheat beer is not a thing here.

The Spring malting barley crop is supposedly pretty good this year

UK companies fear food shortages as Boris Johnson's government misses deadline for new Brexit labelling rules

Thousands of British food businesses could be left without the correct labelling required to continue selling to the European Union and Northern Ireland after the UK government missed an industry deadline to advise them on what new rules they will have to follow.

Britain will leave the EU's trading rules at the end of this year, after which the labels that British food and drink businesses use will no longer be legally recognised on the continent.

UK trade associations repeatedly warned Prime Minister Boris Johnson's government that the end of August was the absolute deadline for issuing guidance that will allow them to produce new labels in time for January 1.

However, with just four months to go, they are still waiting for clarity from the UK government on the labelling rules they will have to follow in 2021.

An ad hominem argument is a personal attack against the source, rather than against the argument itself.

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:22 am https://www.businessinsider.com/brexit- ... ?r=US&IR=T

UK companies fear food shortages as Boris Johnson's government misses deadline for new Brexit labelling rules

Thousands of British food businesses could be left without the correct labelling required to continue selling to the European Union and Northern Ireland after the UK government missed an industry deadline to advise them on what new rules they will have to follow.

Britain will leave the EU's trading rules at the end of this year, after which the labels that British food and drink businesses use will no longer be legally recognised on the continent.

UK trade associations repeatedly warned Prime Minister Boris Johnson's government that the end of August was the absolute deadline for issuing guidance that will allow them to produce new labels in time for January 1.

However, with just four months to go, they are still waiting for clarity from the UK government on the labelling rules they will have to follow in 2021.

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:39 am

An ad hominem argument is a personal attack against the source, rather than against the argument itself.

made more pathetic when the idiot doing it incorrectly assumes the source

Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:50 am

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:22 am https://www.businessinsider.com/brexit- ... ?r=US&IR=T

UK companies fear food shortages as Boris Johnson's government misses deadline for new Brexit labelling rules

Thousands of British food businesses could be left without the correct labelling required to continue selling to the European Union and Northern Ireland after the UK government missed an industry deadline to advise them on what new rules they will have to follow.

Britain will leave the EU's trading rules at the end of this year, after which the labels that British food and drink businesses use will no longer be legally recognised on the continent.

UK trade associations repeatedly warned Prime Minister Boris Johnson's government that the end of August was the absolute deadline for issuing guidance that will allow them to produce new labels in time for January 1.

However, with just four months to go, they are still waiting for clarity from the UK government on the labelling rules they will have to follow in 2021.

Road hauliers getting very nervous too. The UK government is still hoping it can get a deal, albeit we can't be told what deal 'cause that has to be a secret, and thus hasn't wanted to and still isn't paying to cover problems arising out of no deal, though that still leaves the hauliers in perpetual panic. If anything Covid has emboldened HMG in that even through the pandemic the country has maintained supply lines and they're taking that to mean other emergencies would quickly see enough solutions found, and one assumes bollocks to the cost and binning any idea of taking back control.

La soule wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:21 am

Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:50 am

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:22 am https://www.businessinsider.com/brexit- ... ?r=US&IR=T

Road hauliers getting very nervous too. The UK government is still hoping it can get a deal, albeit we can't be told what deal 'cause that has to be a secret, and thus hasn't wanted to and still isn't paying to cover problems arising out of no deal, though that still leaves the hauliers in perpetual panic. If anything Covid has emboldened HMG in that even through the pandemic the country has maintained supply lines and they're taking that to mean other emergencies would quickly see enough solutions found, and one assumes bollocks to the cost and binning any idea of taking back control.

As you know the modus operandi is "Fuck business"

And the the British people

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:34 am

La soule wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:21 am

Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:50 am

Road hauliers getting very nervous too. The UK government is still hoping it can get a deal, albeit we can't be told what deal 'cause that has to be a secret, and thus hasn't wanted to and still isn't paying to cover problems arising out of no deal, though that still leaves the hauliers in perpetual panic. If anything Covid has emboldened HMG in that even through the pandemic the country has maintained supply lines and they're taking that to mean other emergencies would quickly see enough solutions found, and one assumes bollocks to the cost and binning any idea of taking back control.

As you know the modus operandi is "Fuck business"

And the the British people

It's not so much that the Tories; believe in fucking business; it's more the failure of the UKs obvious, & idiotic tactic to try & get the EU to give them a load of side deals; to make their "No Deal", less painful. This is why there is increased crying lately about Barnier sticking rigidly to the sequencing the EU demanded; & not agreeing anything for Haulage licenses, food labelling, etc, etc. Remember article 50, "all deals cease"; the EU has been preparing, why hasn't the UK ?

Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:44 am

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:34 am

La soule wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:21 am

As you know the modus operandi is "Fuck business"

And the the British people

It's not so much that the Tories; believe in fucking business; it's more the failure of the UKs obvious, & idiotic tactic to try & get the EU to give them a load of side deals; to make their "No Deal", less painful. This is why there is increased crying lately about Barnier sticking rigidly to the sequencing the EU demanded; & not agreeing anything for Haulage licenses, food labelling, etc, etc. Remember article 50, "all deals cease"; the EU has been preparing, why hasn't the UK ?

It's not clear why we haven't been preparing, but we haven't for no deal and we haven't for Covid returning in the winter because we seemingly hope the problems go away and then we'd have wasted money on preparing for scenarios that don't exist. And yet we see Times reporters being fired for not being positive enough about assertions from Boris that problems will magically go away in the face of his ignorance, laziness and bluster rather than a push to callout his rancid bullshit

Brexit: UK 'sleepwalking into disaster' over border plans, hauliers warn

The UK is "sleepwalking into a disaster" over its border plans for the end of the Brexit transition period on 31 December, road hauliers have warned.

Groups representing truckers have written to ministers warning of "severe" disruption to supply chains.

Rod McKenzie, from the Road Haulage Association, said the government should "act now before it's too late".

Transport Secretary Grant Shapps said they were working to ensure the "best systems are in place" at the border.

The government has also given itself powers to build temporary lorry parks in England without local approval.

But Mr McKenzie told BBC News: "It is a real case of the government sleepwalking to a disaster with the border preparations that we have, whether it is a deal or no-deal Brexit at the end of December.

Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:44 am

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:34 am

La soule wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:21 am

As you know the modus operandi is "Fuck business"

And the the British people

It's not so much that the Tories; believe in fucking business; it's more the failure of the UKs obvious, & idiotic tactic to try & get the EU to give them a load of side deals; to make their "No Deal", less painful. This is why there is increased crying lately about Barnier sticking rigidly to the sequencing the EU demanded; & not agreeing anything for Haulage licenses, food labelling, etc, etc. Remember article 50, "all deals cease"; the EU has been preparing, why hasn't the UK ?

It's not clear why we haven't been preparing, but we haven't for no deal and we haven't for Covid returning in the winter because we seemingly hope the problems go away and then we'd have wasted money on preparing for scenarios that don't exist. And yet we see Times reporters being fired for not being positive enough about assertions from Boris that problems will magically go away in the face of his ignorance, laziness and bluster rather than a push to callout his rancid bullshit

shereblue wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:53 pm

Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:44 am

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:34 am

It's not so much that the Tories; believe in fucking business; it's more the failure of the UKs obvious, & idiotic tactic to try & get the EU to give them a load of side deals; to make their "No Deal", less painful. This is why there is increased crying lately about Barnier sticking rigidly to the sequencing the EU demanded; & not agreeing anything for Haulage licenses, food labelling, etc, etc. Remember article 50, "all deals cease"; the EU has been preparing, why hasn't the UK ?

It's not clear why we haven't been preparing, but we haven't for no deal and we haven't for Covid returning in the winter because we seemingly hope the problems go away and then we'd have wasted money on preparing for scenarios that don't exist. And yet we see Times reporters being fired for not being positive enough about assertions from Boris that problems will magically go away in the face of his ignorance, laziness and bluster rather than a push to callout his rancid bullshit

Slightly off topic but I was disappointed to read about Collins being booted out of the Times. I had seen it as broadly centre right but with a liberal approach to the range of opinions it would publish. I like Guardian-type opinions as part of the panoply but it is predictable in supporting Labour and a little too smug and bien pensant. Is there no printed media remaining that acts un-whipped by our scummy main parties? The Economist perhaps but that can be rather dull.

UK plan to undermine withdrawal treaty puts Brexit talks at risk

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:50 am https://www.ft.com/content/9906e0d4-0c2 ... 0c75a2f7a7

UK plan to undermine withdrawal treaty puts Brexit talks at risk

That is, renege on a deal that's not even a year old.

Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:24 pm The wheat crop in the UK if not exactly failing is coming in well below expectations, this will bump the cost of flour, Brexit is also set to increase the cost of importing flour. Win win for someone probably, feck knows who

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:50 am

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:50 am https://www.ft.com/content/9906e0d4-0c2 ... 0c75a2f7a7

UK plan to undermine withdrawal treaty puts Brexit talks at risk

That is, renege on a deal that's not even a year old.

The usual UK Brexit, strategy.

Steve wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 6:03 pm best thing uk has ever done..... 50 % just don't realise it yet

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:19 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:50 am

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:50 am https://www.ft.com/content/9906e0d4-0c2 ... 0c75a2f7a7



That is, renege on a deal that's not even a year old.

The usual UK Brexit, strategy.

The thing is, that worked. We're Taggart and the posse when confronted with the Le Petomane Thruway.

Leadership is resigning over a deal then voting twice against it before voting for it before saying it was awful before coming up with your own deal then saying there was no time to scrutinise it then saying it’s oven ready before saying it makes no sense.