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FalseBayFC wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 9:10 am
Chilli wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 9:00 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 8:56 am
Really? The Stormers dominated everywhere till they played with 13 men.
Oom,read what I wrote.............................................
As you would expect with a pack including 4 RWC champ Boks. But the Sharks forwards scored 4 tries. They held up well in the scrums too. They won their lineouts and scrapped well at the breakdown. I agree with Chilli they are a much improved pack
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 8:56 am
Chilli wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 8:23 am The $harks forwards were better than expected,
Really? The Stormers dominated everywhere till they played with 13 men.
The Sharks beat the Crusaders in Christchurch with 13 men
So what is the problem.
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Chilli wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 9:26 am
FalseBayFC wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 9:10 am
Chilli wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 9:00 am

Oom,read what I wrote.............................................
As you would expect with a pack including 4 RWC champ Boks. But the Sharks forwards scored 4 tries. They held up well in the scrums too. They won their lineouts and scrapped well at the breakdown. I agree with Chilli they are a much improved pack
Yip!
The highly vaunted WP pack only won one scrum penalty when Ox slipped. Thought it was very quick and extremely harsh considering they reset a scrum when ginger went to ground after the scrum was set
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Very sad that the Stormers supporters were assisted by the ref and still lost because of our brilliant attacking play and glorious tries, should come here bitching. It happens every year. Get used to it ffs. Instead of hyping your players all over social media sort your kak out.

Only decent players for WP were Xababa and Schickerling. Rest were meh. Even Abna looked Currie Cup level. But that's just inexperience. To even consider him bok material is just vokken laughable. Dont make the same mistakes you made with Willemse. Willemse is rubbish. With no time on the clock he kicks the vokken ball out . What an absolute idiot. Said it before. He doesn't have the brains for senior level. There were 2 opportunist tries by WP in the first half. Their backline and forwards could not convert from phase play and are predictable ( bash , reset ).
Fassi was a Supreme athlete. Willemse doesn't even come close.

WP is one of those teams you just need to navigate to get to the playoffs. Nothing more. Nothing less. They are the Cheetahs of the Rainbow cup. The clown college
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Stormers are a team of thugs. That number 8 should be hounded out of the tournament. I can't decide whether he was just playing to a WP tactic of hurt the opposition if you can't beat them fairly, or whether he is just brain dead. Same offense repeatedly. Duhhhh. If the Stormers are deliberately trying to hurt other sides well then they will get that reputation of being the Thug side in the Rainbow cup. Embarrassing.

Thank God that twat never injured a player seriously. Or that doos Senatla who deliberately almost ended Fassis career.

Our Northern partners should start preparing officials when playing the Stormers. They must cut out this nonsense.
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Papegaai twak can go both ways. Keep it away from your laaities
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Sards wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 10:56 am Stormers are a team of thugs. That number 8 should be hounded out of the tournament. I can't decide whether he was just playing to a WP tactic of hurt the opposition if you can't beat them fairly, or whether he is just brain dead. Same offense repeatedly. Duhhhh. If the Stormers are deliberately trying to hurt other sides well then they will get that reputation of being the Thug side in the Rainbow cup. Embarrassing.

Thank God that twat never injured a player seriously. Or that doos Senatla who deliberately almost ended Fassis career.

Our Northern partners should start preparing officials when playing the Stormers. They must cut out this nonsense.
Sharks were rubbish and with any other ref would have deservedly lost.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 12:10 pm Papegaai twak can go both ways. Keep it away from your laaities
AE is an amateur compared to that number 8.
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sorCrer wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 12:26 pm
Sards wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 10:56 am Stormers are a team of thugs. That number 8 should be hounded out of the tournament. I can't decide whether he was just playing to a WP tactic of hurt the opposition if you can't beat them fairly, or whether he is just brain dead. Same offense repeatedly. Duhhhh. If the Stormers are deliberately trying to hurt other sides well then they will get that reputation of being the Thug side in the Rainbow cup. Embarrassing.

Thank God that twat never injured a player seriously. Or that doos Senatla who deliberately almost ended Fassis career.

Our Northern partners should start preparing officials when playing the Stormers. They must cut out this nonsense.
Sharks were rubbish and with any other ref would have deservedly lost.
Definitely....that ref was bought at half time...But the Sharks have the money to buy officials.
Its all corrupt and the Sharks are rubbish...................ne
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sorCrer wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 12:26 pm
Sards wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 10:56 am Stormers are a team of thugs. That number 8 should be hounded out of the tournament. I can't decide whether he was just playing to a WP tactic of hurt the opposition if you can't beat them fairly, or whether he is just brain dead. Same offense repeatedly. Duhhhh. If the Stormers are deliberately trying to hurt other sides well then they will get that reputation of being the Thug side in the Rainbow cup. Embarrassing.

Thank God that twat never injured a player seriously. Or that doos Senatla who deliberately almost ended Fassis career.

Our Northern partners should start preparing officials when playing the Stormers. They must cut out this nonsense.
Sharks were rubbish and with any other ref would have deservedly lost.
This is the modern game. Stormers down to 13 men due to reckless play. They've now been pumped three games on the trot by the rubbish Sharks. I'd say the Stormers have issues that extend beyond unsympathetic refs.
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FalseBayFC wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 2:50 pm
sorCrer wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 12:26 pm
Sards wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 10:56 am Stormers are a team of thugs. That number 8 should be hounded out of the tournament. I can't decide whether he was just playing to a WP tactic of hurt the opposition if you can't beat them fairly, or whether he is just brain dead. Same offense repeatedly. Duhhhh. If the Stormers are deliberately trying to hurt other sides well then they will get that reputation of being the Thug side in the Rainbow cup. Embarrassing.

Thank God that twat never injured a player seriously. Or that doos Senatla who deliberately almost ended Fassis career.

Our Northern partners should start preparing officials when playing the Stormers. They must cut out this nonsense.
Sharks were rubbish and with any other ref would have deservedly lost.
This is the modern game. Stormers down to 13 men due to reckless play. They've now been pumped three games on the trot by the rubbish Sharks. I'd say the Stormers have issues that extend beyond unsympathetic refs.
Reckless is too kind....Thugs is what came to mind
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The Stormers will have to negotiate the rest of the season without Kade Wolhuter after the flyhalf ruptured his knee ligaments against the Sharks on Saturday.

Wolhuter suffered the injury during the Stormers’ Rainbow Cup loss to the Sharks at Cape Town Stadium on Saturday and had to be stretchered from the field.

On Sunday morning, the 19-year-old confirmed via his instagram account that he will miss the rest of the season.

‘The game we love so much is full of the most extreme ups and downs,’ he wrote in his post.

‘Unfortunately yesterday afternoons opening game of the Rainbow Cup SA vs the Sharks will be my last for the season after tearing my ACL during the match

‘Really gutted to be leaving the boys @dhlstormers so early on in the season but at the same time looking forward to the adventure to getting back out on the pitch.

‘Thank you so much for all the messages of support, they don’t go unnoticed!’
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 2:56 pm SA Mag
The Stormers will have to negotiate the rest of the season without Kade Wolhuter after the flyhalf ruptured his knee ligaments against the Sharks on Saturday.

Wolhuter suffered the injury during the Stormers’ Rainbow Cup loss to the Sharks at Cape Town Stadium on Saturday and had to be stretchered from the field.

On Sunday morning, the 19-year-old confirmed via his instagram account that he will miss the rest of the season.

‘The game we love so much is full of the most extreme ups and downs,’ he wrote in his post.

‘Unfortunately yesterday afternoons opening game of the Rainbow Cup SA vs the Sharks will be my last for the season after tearing my ACL during the match

‘Really gutted to be leaving the boys @dhlstormers so early on in the season but at the same time looking forward to the adventure to getting back out on the pitch.

‘Thank you so much for all the messages of support, they don’t go unnoticed!’
Stormers love their social media


If there was any justice from yesterdays barbaric attack on the Sharks players this is it.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 3:02 pm One zol is enough on a sunday.
:lol:

You thought I would pass up this opportunity.

You Stomps are so arrogant you deserve everything you get
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Sards wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 3:19 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 3:02 pm One zol is enough on a sunday.
:lol:

You thought I would pass up this opportunity.

You Stomps are so arrogant you deserve everything you get
Its sad when any rugby supporter justice injury on a 19 year old talented rugby player.

Rugby have a culture of sportsmanship the moment you step off the pitch.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 3:31 pm
Sards wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 3:19 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 3:02 pm One zol is enough on a sunday.
:lol:

You thought I would pass up this opportunity.

You Stomps are so arrogant you deserve everything you get
Its sad when any rugby supporter justice injury on a 19 year old talented rugby player.

Rugby have a culture of sportsmanship the moment you step off the pitch.
So this does not apply to on the field. Interesting....



Lends support to my recent theory re the intentions of the Stormers players
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Sards wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 3:36 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 3:31 pm
Sards wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 3:19 pm

:lol:

You thought I would pass up this opportunity.

You Stomps are so arrogant you deserve everything you get
Its sad when any rugby supporter justice injury on a 19 year old talented rugby player.

Rugby have a culture of sportsmanship the moment you step off the pitch.
So this does not apply to on the field. Interesting....



Lends support to my recent theory re the intentions of the Stormers players
Its a war on the field. That two tackles wasn't that bad according to Bismarck du Plessis and Schalki Burger
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Bismarck was wronged against Carter. He is an angel.
Schalk eye gouge Burger. Thug

If you think rugby is war you are living in the past
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 2:56 pm SA Mag
The Stormers will have to negotiate the rest of the season without Kade Wolhuter after the flyhalf ruptured his knee ligaments against the Sharks on Saturday.

Wolhuter suffered the injury during the Stormers’ Rainbow Cup loss to the Sharks at Cape Town Stadium on Saturday and had to be stretchered from the field.

On Sunday morning, the 19-year-old confirmed via his instagram account that he will miss the rest of the season.

‘The game we love so much is full of the most extreme ups and downs,’ he wrote in his post.

‘Unfortunately yesterday afternoons opening game of the Rainbow Cup SA vs the Sharks will be my last for the season after tearing my ACL during the match

‘Really gutted to be leaving the boys @dhlstormers so early on in the season but at the same time looking forward to the adventure to getting back out on the pitch.

‘Thank you so much for all the messages of support, they don’t go unnoticed!’
This is a fucking tragedy.
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Results as expected.

Poor Stormers are really having a bad run against the Sharks. Not only was the last game at Newlands a loss to the Sharks, but their first match at their new stadium is also a loss to the Sharks.

I see they have also unearthed a new thug in Engelbrecht. Players like him have to adjust to the new laws or risk having a very short career, so I'm told.

Sharks looked rusty but did enough. Onwards and upwards in the meaningless Rainbow Cup!
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I see Jake's looking to sign Harold Vorster from his Japanese team. He was a decent centre if I recall correctly. But he's only played 8 games in 3 years in Japan. Looks like they're trying to offload a dud.
Might be an astute buy if he's not broken. Jake's applying the Moneyball strategy.
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assfly wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 5:24 am Results as expected.



Sharks looked rusty but did enough. Onwards and upwards in the meaningless Rainbow Cup!
First half I was seriously concerned. The defensive structure was non existent. First time tackles missed. Then once they made the adjustment they just cracked on the pace. Stormers were very lucky that the Sharks made wholesale changes once ahead. They could have kept it going and smashed the Stormers. You have to respect the coach for wanting to give all a go.
Well , if that is the best pack we are going to face in the World....I feel a damn sight better. They did not push us off the ball once. Couldn't get penalties from that set piece.
Our backs are magnificent. Give them a sniff and they are there. Hows our incredible lock. That performance will make any lock in the world jealous. World class performance.

Head to head

Scrums even
Lineouts adv Stormers
Loose adv Stormers
Backline adv Sharks
Defense adv Sharks
Temprement adv Sharks

Thats all there was in it really.
At least the boys have been on the pitch and made contact and felt pressure .

A lot of pressure off the side too. Getting the first W under the belt.
All good going forward.

Eisch....the STOMPS are gnashing their teeth on social media...saying the ref was incorrect on his calls and favored the Sharks. That the game has gone soft and those were hardly penalties. That its a shame to lose to such a POOR team like the Sharks....
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Sards wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 6:27 am
assfly wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 5:24 am Results as expected.



Sharks looked rusty but did enough. Onwards and upwards in the meaningless Rainbow Cup!
First half I was seriously concerned. The defensive structure was non existent. First time tackles missed. Then once they made the adjustment they just cracked on the pace. Stormers were very lucky that the Sharks made wholesale changes once ahead. They could have kept it going and smashed the Stormers. You have to respect the coach for wanting to give all a go.
Well , if that is the best pack we are going to face in the World....I feel a damn sight better. They did not push us off the ball once. Couldn't get penalties from that set piece.
Our backs are magnificent. Give them a sniff and they are there. Hows our incredible lock. That performance will make any lock in the world jealous. World class performance.

Head to head

Scrums even
Lineouts adv Stormers
Loose adv Stormers
Backline adv Sharks
Defense adv Sharks
Temprement adv Sharks

Thats all there was in it really.
At least the boys have been on the pitch and made contact and felt pressure .

All good going forward.
You need a 10 who can properly unleash that backline.
Bosch is not the 10 for that.
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Chilli wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 6:51 am
Sards wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 6:27 am
assfly wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 5:24 am Results as expected.



Sharks looked rusty but did enough. Onwards and upwards in the meaningless Rainbow Cup!
First half I was seriously concerned. The defensive structure was non existent. First time tackles missed. Then once they made the adjustment they just cracked on the pace. Stormers were very lucky that the Sharks made wholesale changes once ahead. They could have kept it going and smashed the Stormers. You have to respect the coach for wanting to give all a go.
Well , if that is the best pack we are going to face in the World....I feel a damn sight better. They did not push us off the ball once. Couldn't get penalties from that set piece.
Our backs are magnificent. Give them a sniff and they are there. Hows our incredible lock. That performance will make any lock in the world jealous. World class performance.

Head to head

Scrums even
Lineouts adv Stormers
Loose adv Stormers
Backline adv Sharks
Defense adv Sharks
Temprement adv Sharks

Thats all there was in it really.
At least the boys have been on the pitch and made contact and felt pressure .

All good going forward.
You need a 10 who can properly unleash that backline.
Bosch is not the 10 for that.
And yet we are consistently winning and scoring tries and converting our points.
Much to my surprise considering Bosch is not good enough for everyone.
Trying to figure out what more you want tbh????
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Chilli wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 6:51 am You need a 10 who can properly unleash that backline.
Bosch is not the 10 for that.
I don't think he's the problem. This time last year he was outstanding and was a huge reason we won the 2020 Super Rugby trophy*

He barely played in the preparation series and needs a settled team around him. I like Ward but I'd prefer to see Marius Louw at 12. Same goes for 9, pity Nohamba went off the boil this year.
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Chilli wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 3:18 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 2:56 pm SA Mag
The Stormers will have to negotiate the rest of the season without Kade Wolhuter after the flyhalf ruptured his knee ligaments against the Sharks on Saturday.

Wolhuter suffered the injury during the Stormers’ Rainbow Cup loss to the Sharks at Cape Town Stadium on Saturday and had to be stretchered from the field.

On Sunday morning, the 19-year-old confirmed via his instagram account that he will miss the rest of the season.

‘The game we love so much is full of the most extreme ups and downs,’ he wrote in his post.

‘Unfortunately yesterday afternoons opening game of the Rainbow Cup SA vs the Sharks will be my last for the season after tearing my ACL during the match

‘Really gutted to be leaving the boys @dhlstormers so early on in the season but at the same time looking forward to the adventure to getting back out on the pitch.

‘Thank you so much for all the messages of support, they don’t go unnoticed!’
This is a fucking tragedy.
Sadder to see the Sards wanted him to get injured. Enjoying it now.
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There seem to be so many knee injuries happening these days. Every weekend there are players having their seasons cut short.
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FalseBayFC wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 6:07 am I see Jake's looking to sign Harold Vorster from his Japanese team. He was a decent centre if I recall correctly. But he's only played 8 games in 3 years in Japan. Looks like they're trying to offload a dud.
Might be an astute buy if he's not broken. Jake's applying the Moneyball strategy.
Interesting prospect yes. Slotted in very well with the Lions when they were at the height of their powers.
Haven't really followed him in Japan either, so wonder if he was a sicknote or just a dud as you said.
If he was only able to shine because of the space Jantjies en Ruhan used to create for him, then I think he might struggle at the Bulls.

Weird that Jake is shopping for centers...I actually thought they were good there. But maybe he's worried about losing Steadman Gans when the Sevens Circuit fires up again.
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assfly wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 7:16 am
Chilli wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 6:51 am You need a 10 who can properly unleash that backline.
Bosch is not the 10 for that.
I don't think he's the problem. This time last year he was outstanding and was a huge reason we won the 2020 Super Rugby trophy*

He barely played in the preparation series and needs a settled team around him. I like Ward but I'd prefer to see Marius Louw at 12. Same goes for 9, pity Nohamba went off the boil this year.
This is something that baffles me. Why do we have some many "one season wonders"?

Really talented youngsters that look like proper contenders, hit the senior division and make a massive impact, and then flounder.
I'm glad that Bok coaches have stopped throwing contracts at these guys in their first season at least, but what is happening.
Augustus was the same for the Stormers. We just need these guys to be consistent for 2-3 seasons...
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assfly wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 5:24 am I see they have also unearthed a new thug in Engelbrecht. Players like him have to adjust to the new laws or risk having a very short career, so I'm told.
There was no stiff arm involved. His tackles were borderline, sure he'll learned from this. Call the player a thug, vok me, get real.
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Sards wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 6:53 am
Chilli wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 6:51 am
Sards wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 6:27 am

First half I was seriously concerned. The defensive structure was non existent. First time tackles missed. Then once they made the adjustment they just cracked on the pace. Stormers were very lucky that the Sharks made wholesale changes once ahead. They could have kept it going and smashed the Stormers. You have to respect the coach for wanting to give all a go.
Well , if that is the best pack we are going to face in the World....I feel a damn sight better. They did not push us off the ball once. Couldn't get penalties from that set piece.
Our backs are magnificent. Give them a sniff and they are there. Hows our incredible lock. That performance will make any lock in the world jealous. World class performance.

Head to head

Scrums even
Lineouts adv Stormers
Loose adv Stormers
Backline adv Sharks
Defense adv Sharks
Temprement adv Sharks

Thats all there was in it really.
At least the boys have been on the pitch and made contact and felt pressure .

All good going forward.
You need a 10 who can properly unleash that backline.
Bosch is not the 10 for that.
And yet we are consistently winning and scoring tries and converting our points.
Much to my surprise considering Bosch is not good enough for everyone.
Trying to figure out what more you want tbh????
Sards, while I know that you don't watch rugby, You do ow that all 5 $harks tries were scored by the forwards? None from flashy backline moves from your sexy backline.

:spin
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 7:30 am There was no stiff arm involved. His tackles were borderline, sure he'll learned from this. Call the player a thug, vok me, get real.
My thug comment was tongue in cheek :wink:

Those sort of tackles were borderline last year. NH refs are dishing out red cards these days like never before. Player have to learn to stop tackling the ball like they used to, as all the ball-carrier has to do is dip a little and it's a straight red.
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Blake wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 7:29 am This is something that baffles me. Why do we have some many "one season wonders"?

Really talented youngsters that look like proper contenders, hit the senior division and make a massive impact, and then flounder.
I'm glad that Bok coaches have stopped throwing contracts at these guys in their first season at least, but what is happening.
Augustus was the same for the Stormers. We just need these guys to be consistent for 2-3 seasons...
Ja it's a weird one. Especially ones that have such a meteoric rise and then one season and they fall flat.

I can't help feel that with Nohamba a little bit of arrogance crept into his game. Maybe I'm just old-fashioned, but the sight of a scrummy using chewing gum during a match used to grind on me. Perhaps a bit of time on the bench will re-focus him.
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assfly wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 7:16 am
Chilli wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 6:51 am You need a 10 who can properly unleash that backline.
Bosch is not the 10 for that.
I don't think he's the problem. This time last year he was outstanding and was a huge reason we won the 2020 Super Rugby trophy*

He barely played in the preparation series and needs a settled team around him. I like Ward but I'd prefer to see Marius Louw at 12. Same goes for 9, pity Nohamba went off the boil this year.
Before and during this game Kade was the next Springbok flyhalf and the understudy to Pollard. Thats why I like Bosch. He just gets the job done whilst the pthers are all posing on social media....If games could be won by 10s on social media Bosch would be the worst ever....
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assfly wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 7:41 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 7:30 am There was no stiff arm involved. His tackles were borderline, sure he'll learned from this. Call the player a thug, vok me, get real.
My thug comment was tongue in cheek :wink:

Why....its fact. Don't be bullied into believing otherwise.
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Chilli wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 7:40 am
Sards wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 6:53 am
Chilli wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 6:51 am

You need a 10 who can properly unleash that backline.
Bosch is not the 10 for that.
And yet we are consistently winning and scoring tries and converting our points.
Much to my surprise considering Bosch is not good enough for everyone.
Trying to figure out what more you want tbh????
Sards, while I know that you don't watch rugby, You do ow that all 5 $harks tries were scored by the forwards? None from flashy backline moves from your sexy backline.

:spin
Ah ha.......but we didn't have the advantage of much territory through the boot as all the technical penalties were going the other way....so the ball had to get into the Stormers half somehow...cue Fassi , who twinkle toed his way through the Stormers defence.
Anyone that seriously thinks this kid is too inexperienced to be a Springbok needs their head read. He has beaten the best players in the world during last years Soup. You don't get more experienced than that.
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Sards wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 7:59 am Why....its fact. Don't be bullied into believing otherwise.
:lol:

To be honest I've never heard of the guy before. But not a good start to his Stormers career.
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assfly wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 8:07 am
Sards wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 7:59 am Why....its fact. Don't be bullied into believing otherwise.
:lol:

To be honest I've never heard of the guy before. But not a good start to his Stormers career.
Ouboet can explain why he should be a Springbok....
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Enough of that weekend result.

Lions at home this weekend.
A must win game as its a home game and we have the Bulls at Loftus the following week.
Points on the board...just need to sort out our starts and keep the scoreboard ticking over.
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