Crusaders vs Blues: MATCH THREAD; Sat 11th July

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ManhoodObesity wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:06 am Had to go outside and kick the cat and a few pot plants after that game.....

Great game crusaders you annoyingly great at rugby cunce
For the sake of your cat we need Ennor up there to charge you down.
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Wild Beef wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:02 am What was the penalty count? Seemed bad. I’d guess that’s where the blues lost it. Some felt a bit harsh to me...
Yes I am biased but it seemed the ref was a crusaders fan from way back. However, ref wasn't responsible for Mo'unga igniting the home team in the final quarter. He ain't the All Black first-five for nothing.
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Who was the crusader who held back Akira after the quick tap? Playing with fire. Seen a YC for that very recently.
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Wild Beef wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:10 am Who was the crusader who held back Akira after the quick tap? Playing with fire. Seen a YC for that very recently.
I think Moody was the first to react. Yeah, probably should've been a yellow.
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FujiKiwi wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:54 am Fun to see the Goodhue twins having a laugh afterwards. Jack, follow your heart north before it’s too late.
he will in the North vs South game surely..
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Jb1981 wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:08 am
ManhoodObesity wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:06 am Had to go outside and kick the cat and a few pot plants after that game.....

Great game crusaders you annoyingly great at rugby cunce
For the sake of your cat we need Ennor up there to charge you down.
Got charged down by the fence :grin:

Disclaimer; no cats and only two pot plants were kicked during the Crusaders last try

Anyways hopefully this is a learning experience for the boyz and this will also give those insufferable gits down in the capital some hope.

the “El classic bro” lived up to the hype
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I’m a few beers in, so none of the following is necessarily gospel. But areas the Blues lost it:

Beaudy Barrett making a couple of key errors.
Some naivety from Mark Telea. He does a lot well but was outplayed by George Bridge.
Poor discipline at times. Yeah, the ref was a bit of a homer but we could have played to his interpretations better.
Plummer wasn’t bad but it would have been nice if we could have bent the line more in midfield.

What am I missing? I’m sure there’s more.
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That was a good summary mate.

The game was just so damn good tho! Felt like an international
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BB kicked out on the full, what were his other errors? I thought they came unstuck through penalties. Crusaders had a lot Of possession at the end and seemed to be under advantage half the time they were raiding the line.
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Half another beer 🍺 in, I’m seeing it all so clearly now: listen:
  • Staying switched on
  • A little dash of flair like Ritchie showed at that kick off
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Wild Beef wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:34 am BB kicked out on the full, what were his other errors? I thought they came unstuck through penalties. Crusaders had a lot Of possession at the end and seemed to be under advantage half the time they were raiding the line.
Giving couple penalties away for side entry to the clear out.

And also not him alone, but no one in the blues was able to take the high ball.

It's like 07 08 where attacking teams are getting pinged at the breakdown more, so there is more kicking, and it turns out a lot of back three players dont have the skills to handle that
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I see on PR some posters talking up Telea.

He is a great talent, but I think he made a couple of split-second errors that cost us a bit.

And I thought Bridge was better. Masterful.
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FujiKiwi wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:54 am Fun to see the Goodhue twins having a laugh afterwards. Jack, follow your heart north before it’s too late.
Just about to say that.
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Why will it be too late?
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FujiKiwi wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:45 am I see on PR some posters talking up Telea.

He is a great talent, but I think he made a couple of split-second errors that cost us a bit.

And I thought Bridge was better. Masterful.
He started superbly but got exposed in that first home try.
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ManhoodObesity wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:33 am That was a good summary mate.

The game was just so damn good tho! Felt like an international
Yeah, I thought that. Intesity, speed, power and accuracy for the full 80 minutes. Some crucial errors but who doesn't swear at the odd player's brain fart in a full international on occasions.
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The Crusaders are the Springboks of NZ rugby 😤

Fuck those cunce
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ManhoodObesity wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:46 am Why will it be too late?
Well, I don't want to see Goodhue do an experimental season at the Blues in 2032.

Don't get me wrong, it's great to have Beauden "The Prince of Ponsonby" Barrett and Dan "The Earl of Eden Park" Carter in the ranks now, but about bloody time we get a star player in their prime.
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He might come back to his ancestral home before that.....
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ManhoodObesity wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:25 am He might come back to his ancestral home before that.....
Where's that? Scotland? England?

Goodhue sounds like Ye Olde Englishe.

But na. The Blues.
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ManhoodObesity wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:56 am The Crusaders are the Springboks of NZ rugby 😤

Fuck those cunce
Geez, that is a bit harsh. There are no cunce like Crusader cunce.
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Top game.......onya Crusaders. Absorbing stuff watching Auks getting the upper hand only to see the lead whittled away through penalties. But it took three quarters of the game to crack the nut......Mo’ungas unconventional restart....Mo’ungas delayed pass......and bench impact. The Jordan finale was the cream on top. Congratulations both sides......rugby chess at its best.
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Auckman wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:57 am Congrats to the Crusader supporters. Owned the last 15mins and therefore the match. Hopefully the season is still up for grabs in the last round when the teams meet again at Eden Park.
That has the potential to be a classic battle.
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terangi48 wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:36 am Top game.......onya Crusaders. Absorbing stuff watching Auks getting the upper hand only to see the lead whittled away through penalties. But it took three quarters of the game to crack the nut......Mo’ungas unconventional restart....Mo’ungas delayed pass......and bench impact. The Jordan finale was the cream on top. Congratulations both sides......rugby chess at its best.
I think the turnaround started with the charge down of Black's kick. Then Mou'unga's ingenious kick off, followed by two Barrett errors in succession.
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Due to my managerial duties with my club, I couldn't watch the first half live...due to my club's inability to show games at all, I fucked off straight after the main game to watch the last half hour at our sponsor pub...1 point in it with 30 to go...you could just see the Sadists shift up a gear to close it out, Bridge and Jordan outstanding...about to watch the recording so I can see the first 50...hard luck, JAFFAS...
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Dodgy ref call on the TMO knock gave the Blue a chance, but the Crusaders immediate response of subsequent taking control of the match was might impressive.
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Mr Bungle wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:51 am
stemoc wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:49 am
Sandstorm wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:46 am

Homer refs?
CRUSADERS HAVE ONLY LOST 3 GAMES IN THEIR LAST 47 GAMES..
37th home win in succession.

Refs apologised for the decision which made the difference in the last game against the Chiefs.
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Enzedder wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:47 pm
Mr Bungle wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:51 am
stemoc wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:49 am

CRUSADERS HAVE ONLY LOST 3 GAMES IN THEIR LAST 47 GAMES..
37th home win in succession.

Refs apologised for the decision which made the difference in the last game against the Chiefs.
No one, but the losers, remember the losers.

I think it’s actually 36th straight home victory.
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Which brings us to the next level up. There is a richness of talent exposed in this all kiwi comp......just as the richness of emerging talent we see at ITM level. Seeing our top players week in and week out in hard fought games is honing real test match level resilience and flair. The new wave of coaching talent is especially impressive with Razor, Rangi, an TBrown leading the pack.....but have to wait in line behind Doughnut until he is moved on.

My love for NZ rugby has cranked up several notches since the commencement of this all kiwi comp with sellout crowds........just waiting to see the addition of the new island team.
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terangi48 wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:27 pm Which brings us to the next level up. There is a richness of talent exposed in this all kiwi comp......just as the richness of emerging talent we see at ITM level. Seeing our top players week in and week out in hard fought games is honing real test match level resilience and flair. The new wave of coaching talent is especially impressive with Razor, Rangi, an TBrown leading the pack.....but have to wait in line behind Doughnut until he is moved on.

My love for NZ rugby has cranked up several notches since the commencement of this all kiwi comp with sellout crowds........just waiting to see the addition of the new island team.
One thing that had started to concern me - but need stats to back it up- lineouts of all the teams seem to have become far less reliable. Some of that is down to opposition pressure, but there are a fair few more with seemingly overthrows or no one jumping
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They are all different plays but the moment above reminded me of Mo’unga’s long bounced penalty touch finder against the Springboks in Pretoria in 2018 and him forcing a 5 metre scrum from a free kick (from memory, maybe a penalty) from within his own 22 in the 2018 Super Rugby final vs the Lions.

His ability to spot and exploit teams sometimes only fractionally out of position is a big strength. I don’t like the term but he is a real “heads up” player.
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Incredible play. I don’t know he could do it again tbh. It sat up just over the 10m
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Wild Beef wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:06 pm Incredible play. I don’t know he could do it again tbh. It sat up just over the 10m
Luck of the bounce maybe, but it’s something he has done to the Crusaders at training so perhaps not just beginners luck.
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Jb1981 wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:11 pm
Wild Beef wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:06 pm Incredible play. I don’t know he could do it again tbh. It sat up just over the 10m
Luck of the bounce maybe, but it’s something he has done to the Crusaders at training so perhaps not just beginners luck.
Yep, it's a good example of making your own luck.

Terrific game last night. Can't wait for the rematch.
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Geez that was good. Disappointed for D Havili, I reckon he had his worst game in 18 months last night, I was hoping he was going to have a blinder but just never really got going, Q Strange was good value off the bench. The Blues have got some real power in their game with the way they use their big ball carriers to make yards.
How the fcuk do we not have Razor and Rangi in charge of the ABs? Jesus!
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Rangi wasn’t even in the conversation when the position was up for grabs.
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I thought I read somewhere that he was part of Razors team when he applied for the job, could be wrong of course but still, I hope we don’t loose these two to overseas clubs or countries before Foster gets shown up. Not that I’m hoping he is, but it’s clear their is a new generation of players and coaches in NZ that are up to the task.
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I didn’t think Robertson had anyone lined up tbh. He approached Brown (they both did). It’s semantics though. Rangi has clearly done a great job this year.
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He was definitely reported as being part of Robertson’s team. It is only this year that the Blues have emerged as a force though and MacDonald has started being talked up more as a quality coach. It’s academic though, NZ Rugby were always going with Foster.
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Wild Beef wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:59 pm I didn’t think Robertson had anyone lined up tbh. He approached Brown (they both did). It’s semantics though. Rangi has clearly done a great job this year.
You are wrong. Leon Macdonald was part of Scott Robertson's proposed coaching team. Robertson spoke at length about that this week. NZR rejected the Robertson/Macdonald team, instead opting for the Foster/Moar/Plumtree team.
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