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Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 7:53 am
by Torquemada 1420
Enzedder wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 7:52 am Fuck we deserved that one. And with so many players out - and away from home.

Chuffed
Superb stuff. That SH looked a real find.

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 7:53 am
by Kiwias
Bloody gutsy by the Chiefs — they worked fucking hard for that win.

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 7:53 am
by Gumboot
Well done, Chiefs!

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 7:55 am
by Jb1981
Tough game. The Crusaders defence was very good but it was too much at the end. Good intensity throughout the game.

Well done Chiefs.

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 7:58 am
by OomStruisbaai
Good win for the good guys

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 8:02 am
by Mr Bungle
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 7:58 am Good win for the good guys
:thumbup:

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 8:02 am
by Enzedder
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 7:53 am
Enzedder wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 7:52 am Fuck we deserved that one. And with so many players out - and away from home.

Chuffed
Superb stuff. That SH looked a real find.
Isn't he a ripper. Only got in because Weber is out for a while.

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 8:16 am
by Guy Smiley
Good win for the Chiefs fans.

Lost track of the second half a bit. Nothing wrong with a few Tuis Bungle, we just moved onto Espresso Martini’s.


We’re shameless like that.

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 1:08 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Drua might have even won were it not for their very Fijian looking FB being a revolving door!

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:05 pm
by Dan54
Guy Smiley wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:19 pm
Grandpa wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 9:57 pm
Dan54 wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 9:39 pm

I agree Grandpa, I think our super teams are nowhere near as good in intensity,or skill level as a few years back, and have doesn't help we only play Aussie teams aprt from each other. I have thought Premiership etc up North has surpassed super in standards, will make it awful hard when we trying to get ABs ready for test rugby.
Shall we start a petition on Change.org?

NZ Super Rugby must have at least 3 people at all rucks!

Guys, it's only 3 weeks in. Calm yourselves.
Actually mate, I was saying same before season started, mainly I thought over last few years we hadn't used a real high skill level in super.. Mind you after Crusaders/Chiefs game last night a man is pretty happy with the quality of that! That was a bloody good game by 2 very good teams.

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:06 pm
by Ymx
Need it to get a bit colder and wetter for the Saders to shine.

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 10:46 pm
by Grandpa
Dan54 wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:05 pm
Guy Smiley wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:19 pm
Grandpa wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 9:57 pm

Shall we start a petition on Change.org?

NZ Super Rugby must have at least 3 people at all rucks!

Guys, it's only 3 weeks in. Calm yourselves.
Actually mate, I was saying same before season started, mainly I thought over last few years we hadn't used a real high skill level in super.. Mind you after Crusaders/Chiefs game last night a man is pretty happy with the quality of that! That was a bloody good game by 2 very good teams.
Still wishy washy rugby though... just nowhere near the same intensity at the breakdown. If super sides aren't doing it, can the All Blacks switch to a more aggressive breakdown mindset when they play teams like England, Ireland, France and SA? They couldn't last year... so something has to change... and it's not changing at super rugby level... so Foster, over to you.. gulp...

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:55 am
by Certain Navigator
Enzedder wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 7:52 am Fuck we deserved that one. And with so many players out - and away from home.

Chuffed
It was a top-notch match that the Chiefs took by the scruff of the neck in the last 20 mins and, such was their dominance over that period, deservedly won. The Crusaders also had a number if players out — at least 6 from their usual 23: Jager, McCallister, Williams, Barrett, Dunshea and Drummond (plus Moody during the match).

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:08 am
by Dan54
Grandpa wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 10:46 pm
Dan54 wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:05 pm
Guy Smiley wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:19 pm


Guys, it's only 3 weeks in. Calm yourselves.
Actually mate, I was saying same before season started, mainly I thought over last few years we hadn't used a real high skill level in super.. Mind you after Crusaders/Chiefs game last night a man is pretty happy with the quality of that! That was a bloody good game by 2 very good teams.
Still wishy washy rugby though... just nowhere near the same intensity at the breakdown. If super sides aren't doing it, can the All Blacks switch to a more aggressive breakdown mindset when they play teams like England, Ireland, France and SA? They couldn't last year... so something has to change... and it's not changing at super rugby level... so Foster, over to you.. gulp...
Found it bloody inetersting watching Breakdown, and hearing Goldies take on things. He pointed out that SH teams are going to ground more than NH teams, ie the cleaners etc in NH drive upwards as they come into breakdon area and clear the players well past the area, leaving a space for the attcak etc following through to exploit.

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:37 pm
by Grandpa
Dan54 wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:08 am
Grandpa wrote: Sun Mar 13, 2022 10:46 pm
Dan54 wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:05 pm

Actually mate, I was saying same before season started, mainly I thought over last few years we hadn't used a real high skill level in super.. Mind you after Crusaders/Chiefs game last night a man is pretty happy with the quality of that! That was a bloody good game by 2 very good teams.
Still wishy washy rugby though... just nowhere near the same intensity at the breakdown. If super sides aren't doing it, can the All Blacks switch to a more aggressive breakdown mindset when they play teams like England, Ireland, France and SA? They couldn't last year... so something has to change... and it's not changing at super rugby level... so Foster, over to you.. gulp...
Found it bloody inetersting watching Breakdown, and hearing Goldies take on things. He pointed out that SH teams are going to ground more than NH teams, ie the cleaners etc in NH drive upwards as they come into breakdon area and clear the players well past the area, leaving a space for the attcak etc following through to exploit.
I need to watch the Breakdown... seeing as it's the name of the show... I think they should spend more time on this area... I know the end of last year they pointed out (like us) that it was a huge area of concern for the All Blacks...

I think it's easier to clear upwards because there are generally more players involved at the breakdown in European rugby. You really have to compete to secure your own ball... only in the last few minutes did I see any proper breakdown intensity in the Crusaders v Chiefs match... keep playing like this and it will be a rude awakening again when the All blacks play a decent side...

Edit - seen the Breakdown now. Good to see them focusing on the breakdown difference between north and south... Goldie is right, no need to target the guy lying on the ground... but I think the bad habit is lack of numbers at the breakdown is facilitating this as well... there often is only players on the ground to compete against...

Interesting O'Keefe saying the Six Nations is much faster this year even compared to last year... so it's modern breakdown warfare.. fast and target standing players.. and numbers at the breakdown... so will NZ adapt?

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:40 pm
by Jimmy Smallsteps
Under Foster? Unlikely. He seems convinced that razzle dazzle, sevens rugby is the answer to everything.

The NH teams will be licking their chops if we keep playing like that.

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:55 am
by Gumboot
Crusaders vs Blues has been postponed due to covid.

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:55 am
by Dan54
Gumboot wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:55 am Crusaders vs Blues has been postponed due to covid.
Yep Chiefs are plaing MP only game from NZ this weekend. Actually makes sense to me.

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:15 am
by Torquemada 1420
Gumboot wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:55 am Crusaders vs Blues has been postponed due to covid.
Which camp?

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:20 am
by Grandpa
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:15 am
Gumboot wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:55 am Crusaders vs Blues has been postponed due to covid.
Which camp?
Crusaders

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:54 pm
by Biffer
Seems Sanzaar has signed a deal with Sky Sports in the UK. Super Rugby, NPC, Currie Cup, summer tours, rugby championship. Super rugby on from this weekend.

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:58 pm
by Grandpa
Biffer wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:54 pm Seems Sanzaar has signed a deal with Sky Sports in the UK. Super Rugby, NPC, Currie Cup, summer tours, rugby championship. Super rugby on from this weekend.
Shame about the timing with so many matches off... but good to finally have Super Rugby back on TV in the UK... :thumbup:

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:12 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Biffer wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:54 pm Seems Sanzaar has signed a deal with Sky Sports in the UK. Super Rugby, NPC, Currie Cup, summer tours, rugby championship. Super rugby on from this weekend.
FFS. AFTER I had paid for the streaming service. :evil:

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:22 pm
by Biffer
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:12 pm
Biffer wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:54 pm Seems Sanzaar has signed a deal with Sky Sports in the UK. Super Rugby, NPC, Currie Cup, summer tours, rugby championship. Super rugby on from this weekend.
FFS. AFTER I had paid for the streaming service. :evil:
Same here.

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:12 am
by Kiwias
Is the Moana Pacifika vs Chiefs match on or not?

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:23 am
by Jb1981
Kiwias wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:12 am Is the Moana Pacifika vs Chiefs match on or not?
As of this morning it was. I can’t see anything to say it has been postponed again.

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:24 am
by Kiwias
Jb1981 wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:23 am
Kiwias wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:12 am Is the Moana Pacifika vs Chiefs match on or not?
As of this morning it was. I can’t see anything to say it has been postponed again.
My feed shows kick-off at 7:05PM NZ time.

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 5:00 am
by Gumboot
Kiwias wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:24 am
Jb1981 wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:23 am
Kiwias wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:12 am Is the Moana Pacifika vs Chiefs match on or not?
As of this morning it was. I can’t see anything to say it has been postponed again.
My feed shows kick-off at 7:05PM NZ time.
Fingers crossed.

Meanwhile, the Drua go ahead of the Force 18-17 with about 20 minutes to play.

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 5:33 am
by Gumboot
The Force pinch it 20-18 with a penalty at the death.

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 6:16 am
by Enzedder
Chiefs showed a lot of patience there - where is the helter-skelter stuff.

Gatland try and conversion = 7 - 0

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 6:34 am
by Gumboot
I've been very impressed with Laghlan McWhannell so far this year. The Chiefs are producing some seriously good young locking talent right now...the Retallick effect?

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 6:41 am
by Enzedder
I think it has to be.

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 6:48 am
by Enzedder
Loving how the Chiefs are getting outside the MP rush defence quite easily.

3 tries to 1 - 19 to 7 at the half

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 6:55 am
by Gumboot
Does picking Vaa'i at blindside again mean Luke Jacobson's out long term?

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:57 am
by Torquemada 1420
Well, I guess with the intensity the Chiefs have shown for the entire 80 the last few games, a blow out was on the cards.

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:23 am
by Biffer
Man the Drua are a lot of fun. If they had a vaguely competent line out they would have won that game by a distance. Great to watch though, really adds to the tournament.

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:04 am
by Jimmy Smallsteps
Biffer wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:23 am Man the Drua are a lot of fun. If they had a vaguely competent line out they would have won that game by a distance. Great to watch though, really adds to the tournament.
Agreed. The two Pacific teams add a lot to the comp, even if Pacifika are a bit weaker. I feel Super Rugby is finally comfortable in its own skin. Good schedules, good sides, good code.

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:15 am
by Kiwias
Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:04 am
Biffer wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:23 am Man the Drua are a lot of fun. If they had a vaguely competent line out they would have won that game by a distance. Great to watch though, really adds to the tournament.
Agreed. The two Pacific teams add a lot to the comp, even if Pacifika are a bit weaker. I feel Super Rugby is finally comfortable in its own skin. Good schedules, good sides, good code.
It is encouraging that neither Drua nor Moana have faced any embarrassingly large losses.

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:32 am
by Jimmy Smallsteps
Kiwias wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:15 am
Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:04 am
Biffer wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:23 am Man the Drua are a lot of fun. If they had a vaguely competent line out they would have won that game by a distance. Great to watch though, really adds to the tournament.
Agreed. The two Pacific teams add a lot to the comp, even if Pacifika are a bit weaker. I feel Super Rugby is finally comfortable in its own skin. Good schedules, good sides, good code.
It is encouraging that neither Drua nor Moana have faced any embarrassingly large losses.
59-12 wasn't ideal for Pasifika tonight but the Chiefs are looking a vintage side.

Re: Super Rugby Pacific

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:37 am
by Grandpa
I'm worried... watching Super Rugby is like watching rugby from at least ten years ago... I remember when we used to lead the world... what we did, everyone else tried to copy... now we look stuck in a time warp... and I'm not sure what it will take to wake it up...a mediocre All Blacks team most likely...