Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:41 pm
Miserable defending. SH runs almost 20m sideways and no-one smashes him.
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Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:41 pm
Amazed Arundell saw the ball.
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:41 pm
Yeah, Farrells made that tryby calling for the quick pass from Mitchell.
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:42 pm
Slade off for Smith. For fucks sake.
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:42 pm
Kept the ball away from Farrell.
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:44 pm
The only thing he has in his game as well.Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:41 pm Miserable defending. SH runs almost 20m sideways and no-one smashes him.
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:45 pm
Someone please explain to me how 2 f**king more blatant cripplers of backlines you could not find beyond Farrell and Ntamack and yet we have at least 4 intl coaches who cannot see it.
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:47 pm
3/5 top metres made from Italy. Says it all.
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:47 pm
Bloody Harlequins players, ruining all of Owen’s great work.
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:47 pm
The 80’s called, they would like their game plan back…
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:49 pm
How TF is Laurence supporting his own weight there?
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:49 pm
We don’t think clearly when the backs have space. So frustrating.
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:50 pm
Skippy the Speedbump going for the record for missed tackles in an 8 minute period
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:50 pm
The positive for England is I think Italy's tries would be scored against anyone
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:50 pm
Fair play, but "supporting his own bodyweight"? He was literally on one knee.
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:50 pm
He's supporting it on his knees. That's how!Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:49 pm How TF is Laurence supporting his own weight there?
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:50 pm
Thought it was fine.Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:49 pm How TF is Laurence supporting his own weight there?
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:51 pm
Absolutely nowhere near itTorquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:49 pm How TF is Laurence supporting his own weight there?
Shocking call by the ref
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:51 pm
OLM clearly not supporting his body weight, this commentary team. 
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:51 pm
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:51 pm
Farrell is just cancer for that England backline.
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:51 pm
Lawrence ran that back and threw the skip pass to his front row who looked at it zipping past himself and wanted absolutely nothing to do with it.
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:52 pm
He actually lay down on top of the ruck to get out of the way of the clearout.CM11 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:50 pmHe's supporting it on his knees. That's how!Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:49 pm How TF is Laurence supporting his own weight there?
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:56 pm
It's to be expected given the lack of understanding/combinations tbf.
Though that said, even if they get 5 or 6 tests in a row together, I don't think anyone will be scared of a Farrell, Lawrence and Slade midfield.
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:56 pm
5/10 for England. Scrum, line out and maul good. Lawrence good. General backs play toothless and error strewn. Lots of aimless chips behind wasting possession in good attacking positions. Defence worryingly porous again when a team runs at us.
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:57 pm
Mehh. I sympathise. Mirror of Jalibert been thrown on at FB yesterday to enable Ntamack to carry on poisoning the backs at FH. Asking a player to show his merit totally out of position and then being surprised at errors
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:59 pm
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:01 pm
That’s about right I think. Italy will be kicking themselves that they didnt show up today because they wont come across many England teams that poor. They seem to have a real mental block with Twickenham
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:01 pm
Slade getting a free-pass from any criticism I see. He was easily the worst England back, by a distance. Probably Farrell's fault that Slade couldn't pass, tackle or catch.
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:03 pm
Was very strange but he was clearly trying to tackle everyone. 6 attempts (2 missed) and desperate to make something happen with ball in hand. Guess that's what happens when you sit on the bench watching your rival play like a drain and have 8 minutes to make your case.
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:04 pm
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:03 pmWas very strange but he was clearly trying to tackle everyone. 6 attempts (2 missed) and desperate to make something happen with ball in hand. Guess that's what happens when you sit on the bench watching your rival play like a drain and have 8 minutes to make your case.
Smith did try a grubber unsuccessfully. Almost like the 10s were told to grubber the ball.
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:05 pm
Never felt nervous, which would be the main positive from that
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:08 pm
Clearly. Sorry Slick, but the idea no one can move that backline is rubbish.
It's partly down to whatever they've been told to do, but also with selecting Farrell. The backs can do the square root of fuck all if he insists on booting the ball as frequently as he does. Some of the most notable moments from the backs came when he wasn't involved (the van Portvliet non-try, the Arundell try).
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:14 pm
I would address you to my post of 4.37 p.m.
Also Torq, but he"s always off the chain.
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:18 pm
My England ratings:
Steward - 6/10 didn’t do much. Failed a couple of aerial battles against the Italian midget.
Hasell- Collins - 3/10 was he playing?
Slade - 3/10 nothing much came off for him.
Lawrence - 8/10 good game. Made yards every carry and high energy.
Malins - 6/10 looked very solid in everything he did.
Farrell - 4/10 wasted lots of scoring opportunities. Defence was pretty poor too.
JVP - 5/10 OK but nothing much to get excited about.
Dombrandt - 5/10 nothing much coming off for him. Frustrating as he has potential.
Willis - 7/10 did well and looked comfortable.
Ludlum - 7/10 gets through a load of work and big presence.
Chessum - 7/10 good acceleration and a good addition.
Itoje -7/10 his best game in a long time. He was everywhere and didn’t make any errors I can remember.
Sinckler - 6/10 solid at scrum time and carried well.
George - 7/10 good darts and carried well.
Genge 7/10 solid and good in defence.
Subs - Mitchell and Arundell’s try apart, seemed to disrupt the team rather than add to it. Smith was awful.
Steward - 6/10 didn’t do much. Failed a couple of aerial battles against the Italian midget.
Hasell- Collins - 3/10 was he playing?
Slade - 3/10 nothing much came off for him.
Lawrence - 8/10 good game. Made yards every carry and high energy.
Malins - 6/10 looked very solid in everything he did.
Farrell - 4/10 wasted lots of scoring opportunities. Defence was pretty poor too.
JVP - 5/10 OK but nothing much to get excited about.
Dombrandt - 5/10 nothing much coming off for him. Frustrating as he has potential.
Willis - 7/10 did well and looked comfortable.
Ludlum - 7/10 gets through a load of work and big presence.
Chessum - 7/10 good acceleration and a good addition.
Itoje -7/10 his best game in a long time. He was everywhere and didn’t make any errors I can remember.
Sinckler - 6/10 solid at scrum time and carried well.
George - 7/10 good darts and carried well.
Genge 7/10 solid and good in defence.
Subs - Mitchell and Arundell’s try apart, seemed to disrupt the team rather than add to it. Smith was awful.
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:22 pm
Generous to Steward (couple of key missed tackles from him on top of other errors) and Itoje, harsh on Dombrandt.MrMojo wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:18 pm My England ratings:
Steward - 6/10 didn’t do much. Failed a couple of aerial battles against the Italian midget.
Hasell- Collins - 3/10 was he playing?
Slade - 3/10 nothing much came off for him.
Lawrence - 8/10 good game. Made yards every carry and high energy.
Malins - 6/10 looked very solid in everything he did.
Farrell - 4/10 wasted lots of scoring opportunities. Defence was pretty poor too.
JVP - 5/10 OK but nothing much to get excited about.
Dombrandt - 5/10 nothing much coming off for him. Frustrating as he has potential.
Willis - 7/10 did well and looked comfortable.
Ludlum - 7/10 gets through a load of work and big presence.
Chessum - 7/10 good acceleration and a good addition.
Itoje -7/10 his best game in a long time. He was everywhere and didn’t make any errors I can remember.
Sinckler - 6/10 solid at scrum time and carried well.
George - 7/10 good darts and carried well.
Genge 7/10 solid and good in defence.
Subs - Mitchell and Arundell’s try apart, seemed to disrupt the team rather than add to it. Smith was awful.
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:26 pm
Dombrandt makes more ground than the entire pack combined, nothing came off, 5
George, Sinckler, carried well.
George, Sinckler, carried well.
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:29 pm
Slade missed 4 out of 8 tackles and zero metres gained.
Thank goodness marchant's gone.
Thank goodness marchant's gone.
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:30 pm
Yeah uh... not sure of the logic on praising Chessum (7 carries for 38m) and Sinckler (3 carries for 12m) specifically for their carrying but digging Dombrandt (12 carries for 71m, 2nd only to Lawrence) who was an obvious success today.
I missed George - 3 carries for 7m.
I missed George - 3 carries for 7m.
Re: The England v Italy match thread
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:32 pm
Well, no one has for about 3 years so I’m pretty comfortable with the statement. I haven’t watched them this season but haven’t the Sarries back line been going well?sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:08 pmClearly. Sorry Slick, but the idea no one can move that backline is rubbish.
It's partly down to whatever they've been told to do, but also with selecting Farrell. The backs can do the square root of fuck all if he insists on booting the ball as frequently as he does. Some of the most notable moments from the backs came when he wasn't involved (the van Portvliet non-try, the Arundell try).