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Blackmac wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 11:20 am Has anyone seen the Matsuyama incident. That trick has been a well known cheat since Pontius was a pilot. You have to wonder how a pro golfer or anyone on his team thought he could get away with it. The irony that he was playing with Patrick Reed as well.

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 11:42 am

Blackmac wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 11:20 am Has anyone seen the Matsuyama incident. That trick has been a well known cheat since Pontius was a pilot. You have to wonder how a pro golfer or anyone on his team thought he could get away with it. The irony that he was playing with Patrick Reed as well.

What was the advantage gained? I don't see any difference to guys drawing lines all over their balls to help then line up putts?

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 11:42 am

Blackmac wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 11:20 am Has anyone seen the Matsuyama incident. That trick has been a well known cheat since Pontius was a pilot. You have to wonder how a pro golfer or anyone on his team thought he could get away with it. The irony that he was playing with Patrick Reed as well.

What was the advantage gained? I don't see any difference to guys drawing lines all over their balls to help then line up putts?

Blackmac wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 12:50 pm

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 11:42 am

Blackmac wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 11:20 am Has anyone seen the Matsuyama incident. That trick has been a well known cheat since Pontius was a pilot. You have to wonder how a pro golfer or anyone on his team thought he could get away with it. The irony that he was playing with Patrick Reed as well.

What was the advantage gained? I don't see any difference to guys drawing lines all over their balls to help then line up putts?

They are saying it is a thick tipex or silicon style substance which is clearly filing the grooves and protruding onto the face. It's a well know but totally illegal hack to reduce side spin and hit straighter drives. Rick Shiels did an excellent video of it where he put some substance on the face of his driver and basically found it impossible to hit an off centre drive.
I can't believe Matsuyama meant it for that effect but it's astonishing thathe thought it wouldn't look like that.

If Saudi Arabia want to use the game of golf as a way for them to get to where they want to be, we're proud to help them on that journey, using the game of golf and the abilities we have to help grow the sport.

Biffer wrote: ↑Wed Jun 08, 2022 6:31 am McDowell says

If Saudi Arabia want to use the game of golf as a way for them to get to where they want to be, we're proud to help them on that journey, using the game of golf and the abilities we have to help grow the sport.

So he’s entirely comfortable with sport washing, where they spend money to distract from their human rights problems, and he’s happy to stick that money in his own pocket.

Twat.

Blackmac wrote: ↑Fri Jun 10, 2022 10:15 am Jesus, less than 5000 though the gates and apparently most of them got free tickets. £67 for less than a 5 hour day out due to the shotgun start, which also makes it impossible to follow many groups throughout the day.

Also nice to see Michelson turn up looking like he has just come off a 10 day coke and drink bender.

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Fri Jun 10, 2022 10:27 am

Blackmac wrote: ↑Fri Jun 10, 2022 10:15 am Jesus, less than 5000 though the gates and apparently most of them got free tickets. £67 for less than a 5 hour day out due to the shotgun start, which also makes it impossible to follow many groups throughout the day.

Also nice to see Michelson turn up looking like he has just come off a 10 day coke and drink bender.

'Looking like'.

It's been poorly marketed, I live quite close and had no idea it was on until the other day.

FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 2:47 pm End of a good sporting weekend for Saffers as Charles Schwartzel wins $4.75 million in the richest purse in golf history. He won $1.1 million.

Lots of kvetching from the woke media about the tournament being funded by the sovereign wealth fund of Saudi Arabia. For as long as there are US military bases in Saudi and UK arms sales to the kingdom they should all just stfu. Maybe the Guardian should recommend we cold turkey on Saudi oil. Their culture and travel columns only exist because of cheap oil after all and that's one of their chief ad revenue sources.

Blackmac wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:41 pm

FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 2:47 pm End of a good sporting weekend for Saffers as Charles Schwartzel wins $4.75 million in the richest purse in golf history. He won $1.1 million.

Lots of kvetching from the woke media about the tournament being funded by the sovereign wealth fund of Saudi Arabia. For as long as there are US military bases in Saudi and UK arms sales to the kingdom they should all just stfu. Maybe the Guardian should recommend we cold turkey on Saudi oil. Their culture and travel columns only exist because of cheap oil after all and that's one of their chief ad revenue sources.

Yep, that is jus one part of the concerns though. The obvious issue is that a successful Saudi league will absolutely devastate pro golf world wide. Watching these guys getting so much for what is virtually an exhibition is just disgraceful.

FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 4:28 pm

Blackmac wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:41 pm

FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 2:47 pm End of a good sporting weekend for Saffers as Charles Schwartzel wins $4.75 million in the richest purse in golf history. He won $1.1 million.

Lots of kvetching from the woke media about the tournament being funded by the sovereign wealth fund of Saudi Arabia. For as long as there are US military bases in Saudi and UK arms sales to the kingdom they should all just stfu. Maybe the Guardian should recommend we cold turkey on Saudi oil. Their culture and travel columns only exist because of cheap oil after all and that's one of their chief ad revenue sources.

Yep, that is jus one part of the concerns though. The obvious issue is that a successful Saudi league will absolutely devastate pro golf world wide. Watching these guys getting so much for what is virtually an exhibition is just disgraceful.

In the eighties we ran the Million Dollar tournament in Sun City South Africa. It had some of the same criticism. It never really reached the ambitious aims of becoming the African major. I'm not sure a Saudi/Gulf league would ever capture the imagination of the US golf audience and they are the backbone of pro golf.

Or it might have the same effect as the IPL has on cricket. A much bigger global audience resulting in the game growing worldwide. All the domestic T20 cricket leagues have boomed since the IPL started. A few more Asian superstars playing in the PGA and European tour would bring viewerships and ad money from Asia that would good for the game imo.

Phil Mickelson expressed "sympathy" for the families who lost loved ones in the 9/11 terror attacks as he faced another uncomfortable news conference after joining the Saudi-funded LIV Golf tour.

The six-time major winner is in Boston this week for the US Open.

A group representing victims' families and survivors has accused Mickelson and other American players of sportswashing and betraying their country.

"I have the deepest of sympathy and empathy for them," he said.

The 9/11 terror attacks on the United States in 2001 killed almost 3,000 people and according to an FBI declassified document, 15 of the 19 plane hijackers in the attack were Saudi nationals.

A letter criticising the US players who have joined the LIV Golf tour has been written by Terry Strada, the national chair of 911familiesunited.org.

In addition to Mickelson, it was also sent to Kevin Na, who played in last week's first LIV Golf event near London, and Bryson DeChambeau and Patrick Reed, who have signed up to play in at least the seven remaining events of 2022.

When questioned about it, a visibly uncomfortable Mickelson said: "I would say to the Strada family, I would say to everyone that has lost loved ones, lost friends on 9/11 that I have deep, deep empathy for them.

...

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 7:52 am

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 13, 2022 10:01 pm Another day, another excruciating Press conference, with Judas, explaining how it wasn't about the thirty pieces of silver.

Phil Mickelson expressed "sympathy" for the families who lost loved ones in the 9/11 terror attacks as he faced another uncomfortable news conference after joining the Saudi-funded LIV Golf tour.

The six-time major winner is in Boston this week for the US Open.

A group representing victims' families and survivors has accused Mickelson and other American players of sportswashing and betraying their country.

"I have the deepest of sympathy and empathy for them," he said.

The 9/11 terror attacks on the United States in 2001 killed almost 3,000 people and according to an FBI declassified document, 15 of the 19 plane hijackers in the attack were Saudi nationals.

A letter criticising the US players who have joined the LIV Golf tour has been written by Terry Strada, the national chair of 911familiesunited.org.

In addition to Mickelson, it was also sent to Kevin Na, who played in last week's first LIV Golf event near London, and Bryson DeChambeau and Patrick Reed, who have signed up to play in at least the seven remaining events of 2022.

When questioned about it, a visibly uncomfortable Mickelson said: "I would say to the Strada family, I would say to everyone that has lost loved ones, lost friends on 9/11 that I have deep, deep empathy for them.

...

So Phil/Dustin/Kevin/Patrick; if Osama Bin Laden gave you xx Million; would you play golf in his Tournament too ?

I hope the fuckers get booed off the courses in the Majors. Immoral, Money grabbing bastards.

FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:31 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 13, 2022 10:01 pm Another day, another excruciating Press conference, with Judas, explaining how it wasn't about the thirty pieces of silver.

Phil Mickelson expressed "sympathy" for the families who lost loved ones in the 9/11 terror attacks as he faced another uncomfortable news conference after joining the Saudi-funded LIV Golf tour.

The six-time major winner is in Boston this week for the US Open.

A group representing victims' families and survivors has accused Mickelson and other American players of sportswashing and betraying their country.

"I have the deepest of sympathy and empathy for them," he said.

The 9/11 terror attacks on the United States in 2001 killed almost 3,000 people and according to an FBI declassified document, 15 of the 19 plane hijackers in the attack were Saudi nationals.

A letter criticising the US players who have joined the LIV Golf tour has been written by Terry Strada, the national chair of 911familiesunited.org.

In addition to Mickelson, it was also sent to Kevin Na, who played in last week's first LIV Golf event near London, and Bryson DeChambeau and Patrick Reed, who have signed up to play in at least the seven remaining events of 2022.

When questioned about it, a visibly uncomfortable Mickelson said: "I would say to the Strada family, I would say to everyone that has lost loved ones, lost friends on 9/11 that I have deep, deep empathy for them.

...

So Phil/Dustin/Kevin/Patrick; if Osama Bin Laden gave you xx Million; would you play golf in his Tournament too ?

I hope the fuckers get booed off the courses in the Majors. Immoral, Money grabbing bastards.

Its whataboutism but there has been more deaths and suffering during the building of the Qatar World Cup stadia than 911. Modern day slavery. But there won't be any booing of the footballers there I bet.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:00 pm

FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:31 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 13, 2022 10:01 pm Another day, another excruciating Press conference, with Judas, explaining how it wasn't about the thirty pieces of silver.



So Phil/Dustin/Kevin/Patrick; if Osama Bin Laden gave you xx Million; would you play golf in his Tournament too ?

I hope the fuckers get booed off the courses in the Majors. Immoral, Money grabbing bastards.

Its whataboutism but there has been more deaths and suffering during the building of the Qatar World Cup stadia than 911. Modern day slavery. But there won't be any booing of the footballers there I bet.

Maybe not, but look at how football fans reacted when the Arabs tried to destroy all existing competitions, & have a dozen or so clubs grab all the money, & shit on centuries of tradition !

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:00 pm

FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:31 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 13, 2022 10:01 pm Another day, another excruciating Press conference, with Judas, explaining how it wasn't about the thirty pieces of silver.



So Phil/Dustin/Kevin/Patrick; if Osama Bin Laden gave you xx Million; would you play golf in his Tournament too ?

I hope the fuckers get booed off the courses in the Majors. Immoral, Money grabbing bastards.

Its whataboutism but there has been more deaths and suffering during the building of the Qatar World Cup stadia than 911. Modern day slavery. But there won't be any booing of the footballers there I bet.

Maybe not, but look at how football fans reacted when the Arabs tried to destroy all existing competitions, & have a dozen or so clubs grab all the money, & shit on centuries of tradition !

sturginho wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:36 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:00 pm

FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:31 pm
Its whataboutism but there has been more deaths and suffering during the building of the Qatar World Cup stadia than 911. Modern day slavery. But there won't be any booing of the footballers there I bet.

Maybe not, but look at how football fans reacted when the Arabs tried to destroy all existing competitions, & have a dozen or so clubs grab all the money, & shit on centuries of tradition !

Sorry, when did "the Arabs" try to do this?

Grandpa wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 3:09 pm Brooks joining the Saudi money train

Daily Mail: Brooks Koepka is QUITTING golf's PGA Tour to join the money-spinning Saudi breakaway LIV Golf Series.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/golf/ ... eries.html

dpedin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 13, 2022 7:03 pm Off to France on Thursday for 7 days of golf in what will now look like hot temps, probably too hot for me! This trip has been cancelled 3 times due to covid so desperate to actually get out there, see old friends, play some lovely courses and of course enjoy the food, wine and pastas. Bring it on!

dpedin wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 7:46 pm

dpedin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 13, 2022 7:03 pm Off to France on Thursday for 7 days of golf in what will now look like hot temps, probably too hot for me! This trip has been cancelled 3 times due to covid so desperate to actually get out there, see old friends, play some lovely courses and of course enjoy the food, wine and pastas. Bring it on!

Happy to report a great trip to Le Touquet, France - weather and courses were excellent, food and drink was just brilliant and my golf improved each day. However driving around M25 and on M1 is just a shitshow and the worst of driving experiences. Eurotunnel was good going out but delayed coming back a bit due to rail strike. Courses are all very nice, we played Le Touquet La Foret and La Mer courses, Hardelot Les Dunes and Les Pins, Belle Dunes, Wimereux and St Omer. First couple of days were a tough walk in 30 degree temps but it cooled down and weather was just about perfect apart from 4 holes worth of rain. Anyone thinking of a trip to Le Touquet then I would recommend it - not too expensive and the town has a nice relaxed atmosphere about it with some really good restaurants and nice little bars.

Nearly bumped into President Macron as he was there to vote in elections but for some reason the police wouldn't let us anywhere near him!

Every trip to Le Touquet we always spend 15 mins at the Etaples War Cemetery, its on the way to Hardelot courses, and it just seems right to pay our respects. This trip we stopped off about 10.45 on Sunday morning and it just happened there was a small ceremony for re-inauguration of statue of Earl Haig in Etaples with a representative of every regiment who had servicemen buried there. The note perfect rendition of the Last Post by two buglers whilst I was standing amidst the 1,000s of graves was possibly one of the most moving things I have experienced. Very very humbling indeed.

Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:13 pm Poulter takes legal action to play at the Scottish Open, turns up and shoots eight over for a tie of 154th place

Needs to remember he doesn’t get paid for just turning up here.

FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:02 am I know there are many sides to the LIV controversy, but what seems to be the issue with appearance money? Surely in just about every other pro sport the losers get paid too. I can think of athletics, surfing, tennis maybe snooker where they don't. But surely the PGA which is incredibly rich could afford to ensure that the field that misses the cut or ends up outside the prizes gets their expenses paid.

Blackmac wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:50 am I see Poulter even had the nerve to turn up with a LIV golf logo on his shirt and Justin Harding is moaning that the LIV golfers are being shunned.

Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:13 pm Poulter takes legal action to play at the Scottish Open, turns up and shoots eight over for a tie of 154th place

Needs to remember he doesn’t get paid for just turning up here.

dpedin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:43 pm Amazing how a bit of wind and a hard and fast semi-links course has destroyed some folks game today at the Scottish Open. Watching on tv I couldn't believe some of the shots these guys were trying to play despite the conditions. Keeping the ball close to the ground, using the putter when you can, knocking it in short and letting it run up, etc are all required but some of these guys couldn't do it. Its almost like they didn't know how to play the conditions! However the forecast is more benign for the next couple of days.

Hope the wind blows at St Andrews next week, looks like there will be a breeze.