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Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:18 am
by JM2K6
Jb1981 wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:15 am
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:12 am Oh dear. Sky have lost the feed.
Open in case of emergency.
Much obliged. That's a good quality stream!

Sky is now back but it was good to see those scrums at least.

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:20 am
by JM2K6
Gosh both teams have been so sloppy with the ball at times.

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:24 am
by Not_Couch
Foster is getting outcoached here

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:24 am
by Steve
Raggs wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:15 am
Steve wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:09 am There is a school of thought out there that lowering the tackle height actually increases concussions.

Its normally heads on knees and heads on hips that leave people sparked out. These high shots that we see carded rarely knock the recipient out.

And I believe the studies show statistically its actually the tackler who gets knocked out not the ballcarrier.

Joe Moody in the Auckland test for example.
There may be a school of thought, but all the people that went to university, watched thousands of tackles and recorded the outcomes, came to a different conclusion... so perhaps we'll just stick with their opinion.

Yes, hitting hips/knees is bad too, but not as dangerous as upright tackles.

Indeed we will stick to their opinion you smarmy prick.

https://sportsscientists.com/2019/08/pr ... ad-injury/

"Slightly more surprising, of head injuries that happen in the tackle, 72% occur to the TACKLER, and 28% to the ball carrier. So the tackler has a risk that is 2.6 times higher than the ball carrier. You can read more about this in a thread I wrote towards the end of last year. This finding was somewhat surprising – most injuries show a 50/50 split. It is also the source of “misinformation” and misunderstanding, so let’s look at this a little more closely."

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:24 am
by Ymx
Ioane ran in to the worst possible area to defend a ruck

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:25 am
by Sandstorm
Both 9s are barely Top14 quality

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:28 am
by JM2K6
Some remarkably stupid play today.

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:28 am
by Insane_Homer
Not a knock on, but definitely a pen. 😂

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:28 am
by Steve
Will Jordan looks concussed

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:28 am
by Sandstorm
Scott B gets yellow for cheating.

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:28 am
by Ymx
Steve wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:24 am
Raggs wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:15 am
Steve wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:09 am There is a school of thought out there that lowering the tackle height actually increases concussions.

Its normally heads on knees and heads on hips that leave people sparked out. These high shots that we see carded rarely knock the recipient out.

And I believe the studies show statistically its actually the tackler who gets knocked out not the ballcarrier.

Joe Moody in the Auckland test for example.
There may be a school of thought, but all the people that went to university, watched thousands of tackles and recorded the outcomes, came to a different conclusion... so perhaps we'll just stick with their opinion.

Yes, hitting hips/knees is bad too, but not as dangerous as upright tackles.

Indeed we will stick to their opinion you smarmy prick.

https://sportsscientists.com/2019/08/pr ... ad-injury/

"Slightly more surprising, of head injuries that happen in the tackle, 72% occur to the TACKLER, and 28% to the ball carrier. So the tackler has a risk that is 2.6 times higher than the ball carrier. You can read more about this in a thread I wrote towards the end of last year. This finding was somewhat surprising – most injuries show a 50/50 split. It is also the source of “misinformation” and misunderstanding, so let’s look at this a little more closely."
Who has time for a fact check during a tense match thread. Even if right

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:29 am
by Lemoentjie
TAKE THE POINTS YOU IDIOT

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:29 am
by Steve
Local TV producer wants Scott Barretts blood.

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:29 am
by Ymx
Steve wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:28 am Will Jordan looks concussed
He didn’t look right when tackling Koroibete

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:29 am
by Not_Couch
Nic Berry has lost it

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:29 am
by Jb1981
Dumb from Scott Barrett. Perhaps harsh to go yellow but there was no need for him to do that.

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:29 am
by Raggs
I'm watching the stream, is it the Aussie commentators that are moaning about the cards all the time? That's a stone cold yellow for me. Don't do it, and you won't get carded.

EDIT - Or are they kiwis? Or a mix?

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:30 am
by Steve
Ymx wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:28 am
Steve wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:24 am
Raggs wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:15 am

There may be a school of thought, but all the people that went to university, watched thousands of tackles and recorded the outcomes, came to a different conclusion... so perhaps we'll just stick with their opinion.

Yes, hitting hips/knees is bad too, but not as dangerous as upright tackles.

Indeed we will stick to their opinion you smarmy prick.

https://sportsscientists.com/2019/08/pr ... ad-injury/

"Slightly more surprising, of head injuries that happen in the tackle, 72% occur to the TACKLER, and 28% to the ball carrier. So the tackler has a risk that is 2.6 times higher than the ball carrier. You can read more about this in a thread I wrote towards the end of last year. This finding was somewhat surprising – most injuries show a 50/50 split. It is also the source of “misinformation” and misunderstanding, so let’s look at this a little more closely."
Who has time for a fact check during a tense match thread. Even if right
Because id read it before and knew I was right. I wasn't making it up. If your man wasn't such a fucking smart arse i wouldn't have done it.

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:30 am
by Ymx
Ha ha. Fair play

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:31 am
by Lemoentjie
Cane was so far offside there

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:31 am
by JM2K6
Not_Couch wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:29 am Nic Berry has lost it
No, the players have lost it. Fucking idiots.

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:32 am
by stemoc
5 minute debut for Will Jordan already pff

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:33 am
by Ymx
Could be going down here.

Especially with all the pens against

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:33 am
by JM2K6
Steve, you might want to keep reading that article re: upright tackles...

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:34 am
by Lemoentjie
Banks' has a kicking routine that seems special, yet his kicks are completely average

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:35 am
by Raggs
Steve wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:24 am
Raggs wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:15 am
Steve wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:09 am There is a school of thought out there that lowering the tackle height actually increases concussions.

Its normally heads on knees and heads on hips that leave people sparked out. These high shots that we see carded rarely knock the recipient out.

And I believe the studies show statistically its actually the tackler who gets knocked out not the ballcarrier.

Joe Moody in the Auckland test for example.
There may be a school of thought, but all the people that went to university, watched thousands of tackles and recorded the outcomes, came to a different conclusion... so perhaps we'll just stick with their opinion.

Yes, hitting hips/knees is bad too, but not as dangerous as upright tackles.

Indeed we will stick to their opinion you smarmy prick.

https://sportsscientists.com/2019/08/pr ... ad-injury/

"Slightly more surprising, of head injuries that happen in the tackle, 72% occur to the TACKLER, and 28% to the ball carrier. So the tackler has a risk that is 2.6 times higher than the ball carrier. You can read more about this in a thread I wrote towards the end of last year. This finding was somewhat surprising – most injuries show a 50/50 split. It is also the source of “misinformation” and misunderstanding, so let’s look at this a little more closely."
Yes, tackler gets hurt more often, but that's not what you were getting at originally. You may want to keep reading those articles.

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:35 am
by Sandstorm
Tupo should be part of the Bok Bomb Squad. Power!!!

Try time

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:36 am
by Jb1981
That should be that.

Have any All Blacks other than Richie Mo’unga enhanced their reputations tonight?

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:36 am
by Lemoentjie
Sandstorm wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:35 am Tupo should be part of the Bok Bomb Squad. Power!!!

Try time
:sick:

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:36 am
by bessantj
That was well worked and could be the game.

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:37 am
by Not_Couch
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:31 am
Not_Couch wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:29 am Nic Berry has lost it
No, the players have lost it. Fucking idiots.
You don't think the ridiculous card calling had anything to do with how messy and heated this game has become?

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:37 am
by Sandstorm
24-15 Wobs
76 mins

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:37 am
by Tichtheid
How many carries did Tupo make in that build up.

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:37 am
by C69
Game over

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:37 am
by Wild Beef
Jb1981 wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:36 am That should be that.

Have any All Blacks other than Richie Mo’unga enhanced their reputations tonight?
Mo’unga lucky not to be playing imo. This game has been messy.

Akira looked lively for his cameo.

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:37 am
by stunt_cunt
Good bunch of action for a dead rubber. What awful mess of a game though.

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:38 am
by Raggs
Not_Couch wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:37 am
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:31 am
Not_Couch wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:29 am Nic Berry has lost it
No, the players have lost it. Fucking idiots.
You don't think the ridiculous card calling had anything to do with how messy and heated this game has become?
You think not carding cardable offences would help their behaviour?

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:38 am
by Steve
Jb1981 wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:36 am That should be that.

Have any All Blacks other than Richie Mo’unga enhanced their reputations tonight?
Perenara and Laumape have been anonymous.

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:38 am
by Ymx
Biggest comeback ??

Re: Tri Nations: Wallabies vs All Blacks: MATCH THREAD: Sat 7th Nov

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:38 am
by Steve
Steve wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:38 am
Jb1981 wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:36 am That should be that.

Have any All Blacks other than Richie Mo’unga enhanced their reputations tonight?
Perenara and Laumape have been anonymous.
well perenara hasn't been anonymous. hes been shit.