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Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:38 am
by Insane_Homer
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:53 pm
by SaintK
Rancid Bimbo bait
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:40 am
by Line6 HXFX
It is worth mentioning again, as I think it is the most stupid thing about Brexit imaginable.. so stupid we have to overlook it...but we invested hundreds of billions in the EU, and we walked away from all of it.
Other countries (France, Germany, Italy, Spain) will feel the benefits of this massive investment..whilst we what..choke on hormone injected meat from Austealia?
Also, we got a lot of former Soviet Union nations and crappy EU nations on their feet..so we could easily trade with them etc.
We reskilled, invested and trained whole populations..
Hundreds upon hundreds of billions of investment, in money and human resources that invested in nations to build them up, so we could eventyally trade with them...that we now have just dumped in a river.
And we worry about 42 billion..
What about the other 840 billion investment, that we just said fuck it about?
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:09 am
by Rinkals
Don't worry, Refry: it's worth it for the pint pots and bendy bananas.
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:34 pm
by tabascoboy
Rinkals wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:09 am
Don't worry, Refry: it's worth it for the pint pots and bendy bananas.
And the blue passports
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:12 pm
by Hal Jordan
I see it took the EU a matter of hours to tell the headbangers to go fuck themselves over their demands to renegotiate the NI deal.
Oven ready!
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:56 pm
by fishfoodie
Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:12 pm
I see it took the EU a matter of hours to tell the headbangers to go fuck themselves over their demands to renegotiate the NI deal.
Oven ready!
You didn't need to be Nostradamus to anticipate this bullshit.
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:32 pm
by I like neeps
fishfoodie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:56 pm
Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:12 pm
I see it took the EU a matter of hours to tell the headbangers to go fuck themselves over their demands to renegotiate the NI deal.
Oven ready!
You didn't need to be Nostradamus to anticipate this bullshit.
You did however need a much better working understanding of Northern Ireland than anyone who is in England, Wales or Scotland has though.
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:48 pm
by fishfoodie
I like neeps wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:32 pm
fishfoodie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:56 pm
Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:12 pm
I see it took the EU a matter of hours to tell the headbangers to go fuck themselves over their demands to renegotiate the NI deal.
Oven ready!
You didn't need to be Nostradamus to anticipate this bullshit.
You did however need a much better working understanding of Northern Ireland than anyone who is in England, Wales or Scotland has though.
Or the EU could have sent some of these to the Tories at the start of this shitshow;
maybe then they would have listened to all the living former UK PMs, & Irish taoisigh; who spelt out exactly why they needed a plan for NI, & just winging it wasn't going to be anything other than disasterous.
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:58 pm
by Insane_Homer
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:05 pm
by dpedin
Just been having chat with chef in golf club - complaining that lots of products are either not available in the wholesalers or he was limited in how much he could buy. He was told it is all down to supply chain breaking down and lack of lorries/drivers to deliver, apparently the supply chain is now really struggling to keep up with demand. He noticed significant difference in last week or two and was warned it was going to get worse rather than better. The joys of Brexit.
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:29 pm
by fishfoodie
dpedin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:05 pm
Just been having chat with chef in golf club - complaining that lots of products are either not available in the wholesalers or he was limited in how much he could buy. He was told it is all down to supply chain breaking down and lack of lorries/drivers to deliver, apparently the supply chain is now really struggling to keep up with demand. He noticed significant difference in last week or two and was warned it was going to get worse rather than better. The joys of Brexit.
and this is with the economy still not running fully; in the middle of summer; & with the UK still not enforcing the proper customs regime at its borders.
How is the Govester getting along hiring & training 10,000 customs agents ?
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:20 pm
by Hal Jordan
Something about Olympic medals and Carrie being knocked up again.
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:12 pm
by fishfoodie
Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:20 pm
Something about Olympic medals
and Carrie being knocked up again.
Remember when, the Right-Wing media used to get up in arms about scroungers living off the taxpayers; with the
father, being a serial adulterer, with kids all over the place; & the mother living in a palace; funded by the ever suffering taxpayer ...... ?
I suppose this means the Tories are phoning around looking for another donor; to pay for another nanny; & in return for only millions in taxpayer funded, dodgy, contracts.
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 12:09 pm
by Hal Jordan
The narrative of "The elites and the EU are to blame for sabotaging the Brexit dream" is now being openly pushed by the likes of Steve Baker MP, arch Brexiteer and member of the Party that's been in power for 11 years and negotiated and voted for the deal.
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 6:43 pm
by Rinkals
dpedin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:05 pm
Just been having chat with chef in golf club - complaining that lots of products are either not available in the wholesalers or he was limited in how much he could buy. He was told it is all down to supply chain breaking down and lack of lorries/drivers to deliver, apparently the supply chain is now really struggling to keep up with demand. He noticed significant difference in last week or two and was warned it was going to get worse rather than better. The joys of Brexit.
I would just like to point out that the sky hasn't fallen in.
Yet.
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:44 am
by tabascoboy
Yep, it's all still going well...
A North East business leader who wrote to the Prime Minister a fortnight ago asking him to tackle problems caused by Brexit said he is yet to receive a reply.
James Ramsbotham, chief executive of the North East Chamber of Commerce (NECC), set out some of the issues which include a shortage of truck drivers, confusion over customs declarations and delays in transporting goods.
The North East of England has historically carried out 59% of its international trade with the EU and the chamber said it has stood out as “one of, if not the only, net-exporting region in Great Britain”.
At the time of writing the letter, Mr Ramsbotham said: “Exports are vital to the national economy.
“They are our national income. Damaging the ability of businesses who create wealth for our nation will make this country so much poorer.
“To do so when we are striving to recover from the pandemic, with all of its resulting debt, will burden this nation for decades.
“We encourage the Prime Minister to give this issue his most urgent and personal attention.”
But a fortnight later, Mr Ramsbotham has not had a reply.
He told the Guardian newspaper: “The real issue is the complete lack of strategic planning.
“From our perspective, there has been none whatsoever.”
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/ ... ign=ukineu
(Let's leave aside the fact that this same North East of England voted about 60% to leave...)
Army HGV drivers ‘ready to help tackle UK’s food shortages’
But around 2,000 military drivers are set to attempt replacing a huge shortage of 100,000 lorry drivers, previously made up mainly of Eastern Europeans.
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 5:36 pm
by tabascoboy
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 7:49 pm
by fishfoodie
Thank goodness the Tories were wise enough to give themselves sweeping powers; without having to subject themselves to the whims of the HoC; & having a public debate.
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 4:13 pm
by tabascoboy
Hardly an impending catastrophe but even the Fail now acknowledging Brexit related labour shortage issues. England, Wales and Scotland only; Northern Ireland apparently does not have the same problems.
Maybe we need to train up all those pensioners to drive HGVs...
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 5:07 pm
by fishfoodie
Brexit benefits !
The UK populace will be a lot healthier if they cut out the KFC, Nandos, & Mickey D's !
& if they all take up work, picking vegetables; they can make sure they get their; "5 a day", eating all that lovely cauliflower, & sprouts !
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 9:43 pm
by Sandstorm
fishfoodie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 5:07 pm
Brexit benefits !
The UK populace will be a lot healthier if they cut out the KFC, Nandos, & Mickey D's !
& if they all take up work, picking vegetables; they can make sure they get their; "5 a day", eating all that lovely cauliflower, & sprouts !
Nandos is fucking great! I’ll cut you.
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:47 am
by Rhubarb & Custard
I went to a Nandos once, shite chicken and chips. And probably cheap chicken devoid of much of the potential nutritional value. The country would be better not so much if there weren't such junk food places, but if people simply didn't want to use them.
Worth noting this is something of a Brexit issue, but it's not like there aren't countries in the EU facing similar problems, Spain especially is struggling for HGV drivers. Here I expect we might just about get this sorted with sufficient drivers numbers just in time for the job market to implode with the progression of automation
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:40 am
by dpedin
Rinkals wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 6:43 pm
dpedin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:05 pm
Just been having chat with chef in golf club - complaining that lots of products are either not available in the wholesalers or he was limited in how much he could buy. He was told it is all down to supply chain breaking down and lack of lorries/drivers to deliver, apparently the supply chain is now really struggling to keep up with demand. He noticed significant difference in last week or two and was warned it was going to get worse rather than better. The joys of Brexit.
I would just like to point out that the sky hasn't fallen in.
Yet.
Getting there though!
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:42 am
by fishfoodie
Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:47 am
I went to a Nandos once, shite chicken and chips. And probably cheap chicken devoid of much of the potential nutritional value. The country would be better not so much if there weren't such junk food places, but if people simply didn't want to use them.
Worth noting this is something of a Brexit issue, but it's not like there aren't countries in the EU facing similar problems, Spain especially is struggling for HGV drivers.
Here I expect we might just about get this sorted with sufficient drivers numbers just in time for the job market to implode with the progression of automation
Well as someone working on automation for several years; I can tell you it's a lot harder than the Politicians think it is to automate tasks; & guess what; there's a critical shortage of automation engineers too !
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:54 am
by Hal Jordan
Don't worry, God Emperor Elon unveiled a bloke dressed as an android and has assured his grateful worshippers that the real thing will shortly be ready to perform various tasks.
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:58 am
by dpedin
Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:54 am
Don't worry, God Emperor Elon unveiled a bloke dressed as an android and has assured his grateful worshippers that the real thing will shortly be ready to perform various tasks.
Pritti won't let him in the country ... Bloody foreigners! Can he row a dinghy?
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:43 am
by tabascoboy
U.K. Government proposed solution to the 100,000 shortage of HGV drivers… “making the lorries 2 and half metres longer may be the way forward.”
Duncan Buchanan, policy director at the RHA, said: “This will have a benefit because it will decrease the amount of lorry drivers we need. They are higher capacity, so you need fewer drivers to do the same amount of work”
However he disputed the Government’s claim that the longer lorries would take one in eight vehicles off the road, saying that most operations would not be able to use the new vehicles in their routes.
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:51 am
by SaintK
dpedin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:58 am
Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:54 am
Don't worry, God Emperor Elon unveiled a bloke dressed as an android and has assured his grateful worshippers that the real thing will shortly be ready to perform various tasks.
Pritti won't let him in the country ... Bloody foreigners! Can he row a dinghy?
The wicked witch of Witham is in hiding or on a working holiday in Israel again.
Despite handing France £57m on a plate a week or so back to help prevent it, it seems that new record number of immigrants are arriving on our shores each week! 800+ just last Saturday!!
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:56 am
by tc27
Ultimately however surely everyone recognises that basing an economy or franchise food chains on the long term exploitation of low wage foreign labour is at least politically unsustainable - it also relies on keeping areas like Eastern Europe relatively economically undeveloped so you can steal all their workers. I have seen people mocking AI and bigger lorries (ie greater productivity) but these are both areas that advanced economies will need to develop in the future.
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:00 pm
by tc27
SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:51 am
dpedin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:58 am
Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:54 am
Don't worry, God Emperor Elon unveiled a bloke dressed as an android and has assured his grateful worshippers that the real thing will shortly be ready to perform various tasks.
Pritti won't let him in the country ... Bloody foreigners! Can he row a dinghy?
The wicked witch of Witham is in hiding or on a working holiday in Israel again.
Despite handing France £57m on a plate a week or so back to help prevent it, it seems that new record number of immigrants are arriving on our shores each week! 800+ just last Saturday!!
Maybe the 800 who came yesterday should be allowed to stay if they can drive an HGV and agree to become indentured drivers for 10 years.
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:18 pm
by laurent
tc27 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:00 pm
SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:51 am
dpedin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:58 am
Pritti won't let him in the country ... Bloody foreigners! Can he row a dinghy?
The wicked witch of Witham is in hiding or on a working holiday in Israel again.
Despite handing France £57m on a plate a week or so back to help prevent it, it seems that new record number of immigrants are arriving on our shores each week! 800+ just last Saturday!!
Maybe the 800 who came yesterday should be allowed to stay if they can drive an HGV and agree to become indentured drivers for 10 years.
We are making a bigger boat for them with the money ;)
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:23 pm
by Slick
tc27 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:00 pm
SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:51 am
dpedin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:58 am
Pritti won't let him in the country ... Bloody foreigners! Can he row a dinghy?
The wicked witch of Witham is in hiding or on a working holiday in Israel again.
Despite handing France £57m on a plate a week or so back to help prevent it, it seems that new record number of immigrants are arriving on our shores each week! 800+ just last Saturday!!
Maybe the 800 who came yesterday should be allowed to stay if they can drive an HGV and agree to become indentured drivers for 10 years.
Is it such a bad idea? Although I'd maybe change the language in the job advert slightly
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:39 pm
by PCPhil
fishfoodie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:42 am
Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:47 am
I went to a Nandos once, shite chicken and chips. And probably cheap chicken devoid of much of the potential nutritional value. The country would be better not so much if there weren't such junk food places, but if people simply didn't want to use them.
Worth noting this is something of a Brexit issue, but it's not like there aren't countries in the EU facing similar problems, Spain especially is struggling for HGV drivers.
Here I expect we might just about get this sorted with sufficient drivers numbers just in time for the job market to implode with the progression of automation
Well as someone working on automation for several years; I can tell you it's a lot harder than the Politicians think it is to automate tasks; & guess what; there's a critical shortage of automation engineers too !
Nah. All you have to do is think it and it will be so. All those UK made jolly robots skipping through the English countryside gathering fruits and veg as they go. Makes one proud to be British…..sniff….
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 1:11 pm
by tc27
FWIW a friend who works for a German company has told me supply chain and HGV issues are also a problem over there.
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 1:31 pm
by fishfoodie
tc27 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 1:11 pm
FWIW a friend who works for a German company has told me supply chain and HGV issues are also a problem over there.
There are a lot of variables in play in different countries; one of which is the way a lot of migrant labour had to up sticks & return to wherever home was; when economies started locking down. Germany needs Eastern European truckers just the same as the UK; but the difference is that now Germany is coming out of lockdown; they can return there; albeit slowly, as they have to secure housing etc.
I wonder if the whole semiconductor shortage; which has shutdown car production; is also screwing up new Truck production ?
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:19 pm
by Rhubarb & Custard
fishfoodie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:42 am
Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:47 am
I went to a Nandos once, shite chicken and chips. And probably cheap chicken devoid of much of the potential nutritional value. The country would be better not so much if there weren't such junk food places, but if people simply didn't want to use them.
Worth noting this is something of a Brexit issue, but it's not like there aren't countries in the EU facing similar problems, Spain especially is struggling for HGV drivers.
Here I expect we might just about get this sorted with sufficient drivers numbers just in time for the job market to implode with the progression of automation
Well as someone working on automation for several years; I can tell you it's a lot harder than the Politicians think it is to automate tasks; & guess what; there's a critical shortage of automation engineers too !
Oh I'm expecting it to take quite some time. We're doing quite a lot of work on the quantum computing side of things and that looks set to change what's possible as regards automation, but that's both a long ways off and something that no political movement seems ready for or even to be thinking about
Back in the here and now we have taken back control which we seem to think only means saying no, and not we could allow ourselves to say yes when it happens to be in our interest. And that sort of thinking will ensure some the delays are extended in duration
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 12:39 pm
by Hal Jordan
I think it's time to laugh at Tim Martin, yes?
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 12:49 pm
by PCPhil
Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 12:39 pm
I think it's time to laugh at Tim Martin, yes?
Hairstyle, general “Pub Landord’ comic parody demeanour……. There’s a lot of material there already before shorting his own business comes along.
Re: The Brexit Thread
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 1:16 pm
by Hal Jordan
I saw him described on Twitter as what you find in the bag after hoovering Norfolk.
I'm sure if he thoroughly wrings out the carpets in his establishments there will be enough beer to satisfy his clientèle for another 12 hours or so.
