NPR

bessantj wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:15 pm Drink it up Jocks!

FalconJock wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:07 pm

Slick wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:34 pm

FalconJock wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:32 pm

Perhaps now some Scotland fans are seeing the same thing that we knew he was capable of at Newcastle, mind you he's still a disloyal snake who will bite the hand that feeds and clothes him

Not sure what this means but Price is a very average player

Apologies, totally misread that as a dig at Harris . TBF I had just come of another board where there was surprise that he played as well

EDIT:

It was meant to be a reply to CaleyReds post on the Scottish Rugby thread (really shouldn't post after a couple of Ayinger Celebrators)

The undertone of my comment wasn't one of surprise, just stated that he had his best game in a Scotland jersey for me.

salanya wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:47 pm Russell really shouldn't be near the Lions.

Nothing to do with that red really. Just a flaky arse of a player.

Genuinely puzzled by this. He had a quiet game tonight, until the red card, which I thought was pretty harsh (yellow, fair enough, it was potentially dangerous, but it was also entirely accidental). He had a solid game with the boot from hand and from the tee, and I don’t think he did anything even slightly flaky. Missed a DG attempt, maybe?

Mr Tim Buktoo wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:38 pm Dupont has been disappointing enough the last two games it has to be said.
Even the geniuses have lulls now and again I suppose.

The danger on relying on one player too much. He was fine against Wales in the 1st half. However, once his backline was castrated by Ntamack, he was reduced to playing the role of another back row.

This team is massively far away from being World Cup contenders.

Structurally, they have no answer to consistent pick and gos which was evident against England, Wales and Scotland. Against the former 2, there was no ability to slow England down in the 1st half at the breakdown and non at all for the entire game against Wales. Scotland came with a plan having learned from that. South Africa would destroy us. This means not giving the ball away because getting it back relies on an opposition mistake.

For all the merits of that backrow
1) It is not slowing or turning over enough ball.
2) It presents no offensive threat against opposition lineouts. Even Wales and Scotland who had sh*those lineouts throughout the comp had an armchair ride there against France.
I’d rather see a Macalou or Woki in there. At least they are lineout disrupters, do effect turnovers and also offer more mobility around the park. You lose some tackling, but that alone is not stopping opposition making infinites phases to the tryline.

Players.
Tighthead is 3rd rate. Haouas is just about holding his own in the scrum and offers little around the park. Atonio is an arthritic hippo. Needs Bamba.

Lock depth is worrying outside of pillaging South Africa. Tao had his one game of his career against Wales.

Serin remains f**king useless and slows the ball down more than Ben Youngs. With Couilloud, Iribaren and even Machenaud out there, one wonders if Serin has pictures of Galthie in a brothel?

Flyhalf. I am not a fan of Ntamack. He is a 2nd rate Russell. I’ve not been convinced with Jalibert at inl level either because he doesn’t bring his UBB attacking game (seems happy to kick) but he has got better each match. Carbonel and Belleau are both better players than Ntamack.

Dicking around with Fickou. We are told he is the defensive leader……. which you can only do from 12…… and then, not for the 1st time, in a crucial game, he is moved to the wing. This time to accommodate empty shirt Vincent: the new Richard Dourthe i.e. nothing beyond giving 100%.

Villier turns over more ball than the backrow. Which says as much about the need to include him as the need to look at that backrow.

Tactics and composure.
Well, discipline quickly went to sh*t under pressure. Hoofing the ball away to England all 2nd half? Doing the same against Wales when they were running riot? What about opting for the scrum against Wales at the end…. which risked running off the clock. Not competing against the Scots at the lineout. Not running the ball off the park at the end.

There is a lot of ability in this side but not a shred of evidence of brains.

Thought Scotland were excellent in a game where they could have easily folded. Watson starts for the Lions.

As for France there have to be some serious questions. If you’re on an ark to winning a world cup you don’t lose home games like that. Two years running they should have walked the 6N and choked. One of two things happens now - either this is the catalyst for them to step up a gear or we just have an exciting but ultimately non slam threatening France.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:24 am This team is massively far away from being World Cup contenders.

Structurally, they have no answer to consistent pick and gos which was evident against England, Wales and Scotland. Against the former 2, there was no ability to slow England down in the 1st half at the breakdown and non at all for the entire game against Wales. Scotland came with a plan having learned from that. South Africa would destroy us. This means not giving the ball away because getting it back relies on an opposition mistake.

For all the merits of that backrow
1) It is not slowing or turning over enough ball.
2) It presents no offensive threat against opposition lineouts. Even Wales and Scotland who had sh*those lineouts throughout the comp had an armchair ride there against France.
I’d rather see a Macalou or Woki in there. At least they are lineout disrupters, do effect turnovers and also offer more mobility around the park. You lose some tackling, but that alone is not stopping opposition making infinites phases to the tryline.

Players.
Tighthead is 3rd rate. Haouas is just about holding his own in the scrum and offers little around the park. Atonio is an arthritic hippo. Needs Bamba.

Lock depth is worrying outside of pillaging South Africa. Tao had his one game of his career against Wales.

Serin remains f**king useless and slows the ball down more than Ben Youngs. With Couilloud, Iribaren and even Machenaud out there, one wonders if Serin has pictures of Galthie in a brothel?

Flyhalf. I am not a fan of Ntamack. He is a 2nd rate Russell. I’ve not been convinced with Jalibert at inl level either because he doesn’t bring his UBB attacking game (seems happy to kick) but he has got better each match. Carbonel and Belleau are both better players than Ntamack.

Dicking around with Fickou. We are told he is the defensive leader……. which you can only do from 12…… and then, not for the 1st time, in a crucial game, he is moved to the wing. This time to accommodate empty shirt Vincent: the new Richard Dourthe i.e. nothing beyond giving 100%.

Villier turns over more ball than the backrow. Which says as much about the need to include him as the need to look at that backrow.

Tactics and composure.
Well, discipline quickly went to sh*t under pressure. Hoofing the ball away to England all 2nd half? Doing the same against Wales when they were running riot? What about opting for the scrum against Wales at the end…. which risked running off the clock. Not competing against the Scots at the lineout. Not running the ball off the park at the end.

There is a lot of ability in this side but not a shred of evidence of brains.

Our lineout was best in the comp until the Ireland game, so you're talking shite, as usual.

Was just posting the same

Slick wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:44 pm

Mr Tim Buktoo wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:38 pm Dupont has been disappointing enough the last two games it has to be said.
Even the geniuses have lulls now and again I suppose.

Thought tonight was his first really quiet game. Not impressed with his dive when Finn gave him a wee push

Covid took it out of him maybe?

Torq
Slow down. You'll give yourself a stroke.

JM2K6 wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:03 pm Congratulations Scotland, stayed in the fight the entire time. Congratulations Wales on a title. But most of all, congratulations to Brice Dulin who must surely have been in line for a huge payout on a Scotland victory tonight

I'm still at a complete loss to understand what the actual fuck he was thinking of and doing. Absolute madness!!!

Pressure does funny things to people.

Uncle fester wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:08 am Pressure does funny things to people.

.............and of course he is French!

Begbie wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:04 am Our lineout was best in the comp until the Ireland game, so you're talking shite, as usual.

OK FRISP. If you say so.

Paddington Bear wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:58 am Thought Scotland were excellent in a game where they could have easily folded. Watson starts for the Lions.

As for France there have to be some serious questions. If you’re on an ark to winning a world cup you don’t lose home games like that. Two years running they should have walked the 6N and choked. One of two things happens now - either this is the catalyst for them to step up a gear or we just have an exciting but ultimately non slam threatening France.

An ark might have been freudian but is an accurate description at the moment. Can only hope that some of this is down to COVID impact on players and Galthie having a temporary meltdown over misdemeanours.

Trust the tw*t from the FFR who tweeted the waffle post is feeling suitably stupid now.

SaintK wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:20 am

JM2K6 wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:03 pm Congratulations Scotland, stayed in the fight the entire time. Congratulations Wales on a title. But most of all, congratulations to Brice Dulin who must surely have been in line for a huge payout on a Scotland victory tonight

I'm still at a complete loss to understand what the actual fuck he was thinking of and doing. Absolute madness!!!

Talking about payout; If France had finished 1st the prize money for the team was 1.25 millions € (without GS) 2nd 500k€.
I’m not assuming that this was the cause of Dulin’ brain fart.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:26 am

Begbie wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:04 am Our lineout was best in the comp until the Ireland game, so you're talking shite, as usual.

OK FRISP. If you say so.

The good fellas that do the stats said so. Don't take it out on me because you're wrong, once again.

Begbie wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:13 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:26 am

Begbie wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:04 am Our lineout was best in the comp until the Ireland game, so you're talking shite, as usual.

OK FRISP. If you say so.

The good fellas that do the stats said so. Don't take it out on me because you're wrong, once again.

I'm surprised if that's the case with Turner throwing in to be honest

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:46 pm WT actual f**k? Against 14 men and you go long in the rain? Retarded

Errr, quite:

Le tournant : un fond de touche qui change tout...

On ne le saura jamais, mais ce lancer en fond de touche mal négocié dans les derniers instants de la première mi-temps aurait pu peut-être tout changer... Souvenez-vous : à ce moment, les Bleus venaient de reprendre l'avantage au score grâce à l'essai de Dulin (13-10). Le capitaine écossais Stuart Hogg venait d'écoper d'un carton jaune, et les Bleus avaient une touche à cinq mètres de la ligne adverse. Après avoir souvent visé Rebbadj en premier bloc, les Tricolores ont voulu surprendre les Ecossais en visant le troisième bloc. Une bonne idée sur le papier, sauf que le lancer fut intercepté et le ballon perdu.

SaintK wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:49 pm

Begbie wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:13 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:26 am

OK FRISP. If you say so.

The good fellas that do the stats said so. Don't take it out on me because you're wrong, once again.

I'm surprised if that's the case with Turner throwing in to be honest

100% v England.
85% v Wales
Shite v Ireland
88% v Italy
90% v France

It's not quite the "shit house" lineout he's making out. I'm fairly certain the Welsh lineout was much improved after the first game too.

SaintK wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:49 pm

Begbie wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:13 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:26 am

OK FRISP. If you say so.

The good fellas that do the stats said so. Don't take it out on me because you're wrong, once again.

I'm surprised if that's the case with Turner throwing in to be honest

Eh? It’s not in dispute, it’s a fact

Begbie wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:08 pm

SaintK wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:49 pm

Begbie wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:13 pm

The good fellas that do the stats said so. Don't take it out on me because you're wrong, once again.

I'm surprised if that's the case with Turner throwing in to be honest

100% v England.
85% v Wales
Shite v Ireland
88% v Italy
90% v France

It's not quite the "shit house" lineout he's making out. I'm fairly certain the Welsh lineout was much improved after the first game too.

Fair play

Begbie wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:08 pm [100% v England.
85% v Wales
Shite v Ireland
88% v Italy
90% v France

The context was France not challenging at all in the lineout made it an easy ride for Scotland. So quoting the easy ride stats

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 2:32 pm

Begbie wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:08 pm [100% v England.
85% v Wales
Shite v Ireland
88% v Italy
90% v France

The context was France not challenging at all in the lineout made it an easy ride for Scotland. So quoting the easy ride stats

No, the actual stats

Slick wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 2:36 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 2:32 pm

Begbie wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:08 pm [100% v England.
85% v Wales
Shite v Ireland
88% v Italy
90% v France

The context was France not challenging at all in the lineout made it an easy ride for Scotland. So quoting the easy ride stats

No, the actual stats

No. You can't include the stats from the game which was been quoted as the context. Reasoning a strong point of yours?

Anyway, don't know where he pulled those stats because Wales game was 81%.

Yr Alban wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:45 am

salanya wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:47 pm Russell really shouldn't be near the Lions.

Nothing to do with that red really. Just a flaky arse of a player.

Genuinely puzzled by this. He had a quiet game tonight, until the red card, which I thought was pretty harsh (yellow, fair enough, it was potentially dangerous, but it was also entirely accidental). He had a solid game with the boot from hand and from the tee, and I don’t think he did anything even slightly flaky. Missed a DG attempt, maybe?

Thought he had a very good game for probably a half. Then threw a random pass across n players to no-one: could have gone anywhere. Tried a poor grubber through straight into touch. Used poor technique for the red card. Which is the point: hero to zero to hero to.........

Still totally outplayed Ntamack whose contribution was 3 fwd passes, 2 missed conversions and a litany of sh*t kicks in open play.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 2:32 pm

Begbie wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:08 pm [100% v England.
85% v Wales
Shite v Ireland
88% v Italy
90% v France

The context was France not challenging at all in the lineout made it an easy ride for Scotland. So quoting the easy ride stats

Fuckin hell you are hard work. Take a day off.

You said our lineout was "shithouse throughout the comp". The stats say otherwise.

The context was you saying Scotland had a “shithouse lineout throughout the comp” which, Ireland game apart, they clearly didn’t.

Slick wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 2:48 pm The context was you saying Scotland had a “shithouse lineout throughout the comp” which, Ireland game apart, they clearly didn’t.

I'm done engaging with him now. He's a grade A ballbag.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 2:42 pm

Slick wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 2:36 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 2:32 pm
The context was France not challenging at all in the lineout made it an easy ride for Scotland. So quoting the easy ride stats

No, the actual stats

No. You can't include the stats from the game which was been quoted as the context. Reasoning a strong point of yours?

Anyway, don't know where he pulled those stats because Wales game was 81%.

The 6N website. That good enough for you? You fuckin weirdo.

Caley_Red wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:36 pm

FalconJock wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:07 pm

Slick wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:34 pm

Not sure what this means but Price is a very average player

Apologies, totally misread that as a dig at Harris . TBF I had just come of another board where there was surprise that he played as well

EDIT:

It was meant to be a reply to CaleyReds post on the Scottish Rugby thread (really shouldn't post after a couple of Ayinger Celebrators)

The undertone of my comment wasn't one of surprise, just stated that he had his best game in a Scotland jersey for me.

It wasn't directly aimed at you mate, but it was highlighting what we had been seeing at Newcastle long before Scotland came knocking on his door, and to be fair it was probably his best game in a Scotland jersey to date.