NPR

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 4:55 pm Chris Harris on and nearly gifts them a try.

It's been a humbling second half for Scotland.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 4:58 pm Well done Ireland. Remarkable ability to absorb all that pressure and suffer all those injuries so early on. Far from the best performance as a result, but a very professional one in the end.

Scotland... will they get a better chance at the Triple Crown? A few players got badly exposed today and they crumbled a fair bit in the 2nd half.

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:00 pm I'd say Ringers jaw is broken again

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 4:57 pm Was always going to be an interesting weekend to find out where everyone stands.

I’m sorry, I just don’t see Scotland as anywhere bear the same bracket as the top 4. Let’s not beat around the bush, it was an entertaining game but they’ve just had their arses handed to them. Ireland made all the running out wide, through the middle and in the pack. Scotland got done in the scrum and failed to put any pressure on a 7 throwing in to the lineout. VdM was show to be the lump that he is. Russell was kept at bay. Only Huw Jones looked like causing problems.

Ireland didn’t really get out of third gear and have won by 15 away, not looking forward to our trip to Dublin. Italy’s trip to Edinburgh is intriguing.

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:00 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 4:55 pm Chris Harris on and nearly gifts them a try.

It's been a humbling second half for Scotland.

I’m not sure humbling is the right word, they were better than us in that second period and they won it two tries to nil

It certainly shows us the kind of level of accuracy that is needed ti be the best side in the world

GogLais wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:02 pm Did Hansen call Cian Healey church? How clever. Or I wasn’t paying attention.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 4:58 pm Well done Ireland. Remarkable ability to absorb all that pressure and suffer all those injuries so early on. Far from the best performance as a result, but a very professional one in the end.

Scotland... will they get a better chance at the Triple Crown? A few players got badly exposed today and they crumbled a fair bit in the 2nd half.

Big D wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:04 pm Well done to Ireland. Another grad slam on the horizon for Ireland for the Irish posters to enjoy.

Blackmac wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:02 pm

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 4:57 pm Was always going to be an interesting weekend to find out where everyone stands.

I’m sorry, I just don’t see Scotland as anywhere bear the same bracket as the top 4. Let’s not beat around the bush, it was an entertaining game but they’ve just had their arses handed to them. Ireland made all the running out wide, through the middle and in the pack. Scotland got done in the scrum and failed to put any pressure on a 7 throwing in to the lineout. VdM was show to be the lump that he is. Russell was kept at bay. Only Huw Jones looked like causing problems.

Ireland didn’t really get out of third gear and have won by 15 away, not looking forward to our trip to Dublin. Italy’s trip to Edinburgh is intriguing.

Much as you were arguing after the England game, who has ever suggested we are top 4. I also think you are talking absolute shite about Ireland not getting out of third gear and I reckon every Irish player would say the same. Suddenly Scotland are a shite side after being the first side to deny them a bonus point even though we didn't play great. That's a really shit post by your standards.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:04 pm

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:00 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 4:55 pm Chris Harris on and nearly gifts them a try.

It's been a humbling second half for Scotland.

I’m not sure humbling is the right word, they were better than us in that second period and they won it two tries to nil

It certainly shows us the kind of level of accuracy that is needed ti be the best side in the world

It was pretty shambolic given the disruption that Ireland went through. The players will be under no illusions about how badly they were outplayed and beaten up at home by a patchwork side in that half.

Deveron Boy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:06 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 4:58 pm Well done Ireland. Remarkable ability to absorb all that pressure and suffer all those injuries so early on. Far from the best performance as a result, but a very professional one in the end.

Scotland... will they get a better chance at the Triple Crown? A few players got badly exposed today and they crumbled a fair bit in the 2nd half.

I think we might see a bigger crumbling in Dublin next Saturday….

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 4:57 pm Was always going to be an interesting weekend to find out where everyone stands.

I’m sorry, I just don’t see Scotland as anywhere bear the same bracket as the top 4. Let’s not beat around the bush, it was an entertaining game but they’ve just had their arses handed to them. Ireland made all the running out wide, through the middle and in the pack. Scotland got done in the scrum and failed to put any pressure on a 7 throwing in to the lineout. VdM was show to be the lump that he is. Russell was kept at bay. Only Huw Jones looked like causing problems.

Ireland didn’t really get out of third gear and have won by 15 away, not looking forward to our trip to Dublin. Italy’s trip to Edinburgh is intriguing.

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:08 pm

Blackmac wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:02 pm

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 4:57 pm Was always going to be an interesting weekend to find out where everyone stands.

I’m sorry, I just don’t see Scotland as anywhere bear the same bracket as the top 4. Let’s not beat around the bush, it was an entertaining game but they’ve just had their arses handed to them. Ireland made all the running out wide, through the middle and in the pack. Scotland got done in the scrum and failed to put any pressure on a 7 throwing in to the lineout. VdM was show to be the lump that he is. Russell was kept at bay. Only Huw Jones looked like causing problems.

Ireland didn’t really get out of third gear and have won by 15 away, not looking forward to our trip to Dublin. Italy’s trip to Edinburgh is intriguing.

Much as you were arguing after the England game, who has ever suggested we are top 4. I also think you are talking absolute shite about Ireland not getting out of third gear and I reckon every Irish player would say the same. Suddenly Scotland are a shite side after being the first side to deny them a bonus point even though we didn't play great. That's a really shit post by your standards.

‘Anywhere near the top 4’. Scotland are firmly in the bracket with Australia, Argentina and our good selves. Capable of good days no doubt. I’m referencing that there’s been a large amount of talk of Scotland pulling *closer* to the top 2 than they are to England/Wales etc, others may disagree but I just don’t see it. I didn’t say shite side - just that was a performance that reflects their position which I think is hard to argue. Likewise my analysis of various parts of the Scotland performance.

Re: Third gear - Sexton was basically walking up and down the pitch, Murray was painful, they didn’t have a hooker and uncharacteristically kept fumbling the ball. They got better as the game went on.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:15 pm Technique is hugely important for hookers, Healy's a strong guy but it's not something any prop can do without issue.

Blackmac wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:24 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:15 pm Technique is hugely important for hookers, Healy's a strong guy but it's not something any prop can do without issue.

He didn't need to hook though, not once and good luck finding his brake foot.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:28 pm

Blackmac wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:24 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:15 pm Technique is hugely important for hookers, Healy's a strong guy but it's not something any prop can do without issue.

He didn't need to hook though, not once and good luck finding his brake foot.

No I know, but angles and binds and how you coordinate with your props is worth something.

On a completely different note, this has been a great 6N... Very few games have been a disappointment

Blackmac wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:29 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:28 pm

Blackmac wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:24 pm

He didn't need to hook though, not once and good luck finding his brake foot.

No I know, but angles and binds and how you coordinate with your props is worth something.

On a completely different note, this has been a great 6N... Very few games have been a disappointment

Agreed, and feel free to pop back into the Scotland thread with your irritating shite.

Blackmac wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:15 pm

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:08 pm

Blackmac wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:02 pm

Much as you were arguing after the England game, who has ever suggested we are top 4. I also think you are talking absolute shite about Ireland not getting out of third gear and I reckon every Irish player would say the same. Suddenly Scotland are a shite side after being the first side to deny them a bonus point even though we didn't play great. That's a really shit post by your standards.

‘Anywhere near the top 4’. Scotland are firmly in the bracket with Australia, Argentina and our good selves. Capable of good days no doubt. I’m referencing that there’s been a large amount of talk of Scotland pulling *closer* to the top 2 than they are to England/Wales etc, others may disagree but I just don’t see it. I didn’t say shite side - just that was a performance that reflects their position which I think is hard to argue. Likewise my analysis of various parts of the Scotland performance.

Re: Third gear - Sexton was basically walking up and down the pitch, Murray was painful, they didn’t have a hooker and uncharacteristically kept fumbling the ball. They got better as the game went on.

Mate you are just doubling down with your nonsense. Who has been talking about Scotland pulling close to the top two. Also the Irish players and coach have just confirmed how much crap you are talking. Scotland had a ragged 20 minutes in the second half, a couple of key players underperformed and we struggled to cope with the odd situation that developed in the set pieces, but otherwise we stood toe to toe with the best team in the world by a distance which France barely managed.

Big D wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:13 pm No complaints as its how the scrum is reffed but losing the hooker isn't an issue for the scrums as they don't need to hook and props can push.

Cummings, Gray and Ritchie were a disgrace on defensive line outs but all credit to JVdF on his throwing.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:41 pm Just caught up with the game.

Sco's attempts to destructure the game paid some dividends in the sense Ire struggled to play their possession patterns. However, I felt it also hampered Sco when they had some decent positions which required structure to optimise their chances.

Not sure what Hogg and VDM were doing because between the 2 of them they had some blame for all 3 Ire trys:
1) Hogg was too narrow leaving VDM covering too much space to cover and his valiant but questionable tackle attempt wasn't enough.
2) Where was Hogg for the bomb? VDM made little effort to get off the ground which resulted in Ire recovering the ball via Hansen: who is smaller and much lighter than VDM.
3) Again, VDM is the last man but the Sco defence has manned up...... until VDM bites in unnecessarily and gives a front rower a walk to the line.

Also some dim by Sco (as ever): coughing up 10m twice for yapping at Pearce. Not attacking the Ire lineouts when VDF was throwing. Not properly policing their own, wide breakdowns, resulting in the lightweight Hansen having a field day as an extra flanker.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:41 pm Just caught up with the game.

Sco's attempts to destructure the game paid some dividends in the sense Ire struggled to play their possession patterns. However, I felt it also hampered Sco when they had some decent positions which required structure to optimise their chances.

Not sure what Hogg and VDM were doing because between the 2 of them they had some blame for all 3 Ire trys:
1) Hogg was too narrow leaving VDM covering too much space to cover and his valiant but questionable tackle attempt wasn't enough.
2) Where was Hogg for the bomb? VDM made little effort to get off the ground which resulted in Ire recovering the ball via Hansen: who is smaller and much lighter than VDM.
3) Again, VDM is the last man but the Sco defence has manned up...... until VDM bites in unnecessarily and gives a front rower a walk to the line.

Also some dim by Sco (as ever): coughing up 10m twice for yapping at Pearce. Not attacking the Ire lineouts when VDF was throwing. Not properly policing their own, wide breakdowns, resulting in the lightweight Hansen having a field day as an extra flanker.

Ymx wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:07 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:41 pm Just caught up with the game.

Sco's attempts to destructure the game paid some dividends in the sense Ire struggled to play their possession patterns. However, I felt it also hampered Sco when they had some decent positions which required structure to optimise their chances.

Not sure what Hogg and VDM were doing because between the 2 of them they had some blame for all 3 Ire trys:
1) Hogg was too narrow leaving VDM covering too much space to cover and his valiant but questionable tackle attempt wasn't enough.
2) Where was Hogg for the bomb? VDM made little effort to get off the ground which resulted in Ire recovering the ball via Hansen: who is smaller and much lighter than VDM.
3) Again, VDM is the last man but the Sco defence has manned up...... until VDM bites in unnecessarily and gives a front rower a walk to the line.

Also some dim by Sco (as ever): coughing up 10m twice for yapping at Pearce. Not attacking the Ire lineouts when VDF was throwing. Not properly policing their own, wide breakdowns, resulting in the lightweight Hansen having a field day as an extra flanker.

Did you just write a critical post about Scotland, and not once mention Russell?

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:18 pm Call it sticking in the boot if you want but Hogg was pretty poor. Russell was fine I thought.

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:18 pm Call it sticking in the boot if you want but Hogg was pretty poor. Russell was fine I thought.

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:22 pm

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:18 pm Call it sticking in the boot if you want but Hogg was pretty poor. Russell was fine I thought.

Up to 40 mins. Starting shovelling the ball a bit then. I am.confused why they didn't play the same way in the second d half but Gregor said they were fatigued.

Deveron Boy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:06 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 4:58 pm Well done Ireland. Remarkable ability to absorb all that pressure and suffer all those injuries so early on. Far from the best performance as a result, but a very professional one in the end.

Scotland... will they get a better chance at the Triple Crown? A few players got badly exposed today and they crumbled a fair bit in the 2nd half.

I think we might see a bigger crumbling in Dublin next Saturday….

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:33 pm

Deveron Boy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:06 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 4:58 pm Well done Ireland. Remarkable ability to absorb all that pressure and suffer all those injuries so early on. Far from the best performance as a result, but a very professional one in the end.

Scotland... will they get a better chance at the Triple Crown? A few players got badly exposed today and they crumbled a fair bit in the 2nd half.

I think we might see a bigger crumbling in Dublin next Saturday….

Ireland being raging hot favourites might suit this England team just fine.

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:25 pm

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:22 pm

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:18 pm Call it sticking in the boot if you want but Hogg was pretty poor. Russell was fine I thought.

Up to 40 mins. Starting shovelling the ball a bit then. I am.confused why they didn't play the same way in the second d half but Gregor said they were fatigued.

During first half, I had a hunch that Scotland wouldn't be able to keep that pace up.