Springbokke next 4 years to 2027

[OomStruisbaai]

He's definitely not being picked because he's better than what we have, and he knows it.

It's all about getting the inside angle on how the Irish operate.

Line out calls
Scrum techniques
Rucking and mauling

Going to vok up his career.

Has he signed with the $harks?

[assfly]

He's definitely not being picked because he's better than what we have, and he knows it.

It's all about getting the inside angle on how the Irish operate.

Line out calls
Scrum techniques
Rucking and mauling

Going to vok up his career.

Has he signed with the $harks?

I think you'll find we're busy recruiting drug abusers.

[Chilli]

Going to vok up his career.

Has he signed with the $harks?

I think you'll find we're busy recruiting drug abusers.

Oooooh, which one?

[assfly]

Oooooh, which one?

Aphiwe Dyantyi. Fresh out of rehab.

[OomStruisbaai]

Has he signed with the $harks?

I think you'll find we're busy recruiting drug abusers.

Oooooh, which one?

Aphiwe Dyantyi

[Chilli]

Oooooh, which one?

Aphiwe Dyantyi. Fresh out of rehab.

Good player, but don't you have enough wings?

[assfly]

Good player, but don't you have enough wings?

I like Kok but he's not exactly the fastest winger in South Africa.
Thaakir Abrahams is leaving.
Marnus Potgieter is a great prospect but not the finished article.
Mapimpi is away with the Boks for half the season.
Volmink is a CC level player.

So in all honestly, not a bad signing. I assume he must have come at a good price too, as he is living in Durban already.

[Uncle fester]

I wonder if we'd still go for Kleyn if we didn't have Ireland in our pool.

Going to mess with Kleyns career big time. I hope he considers this carefully. If he only gets 1 game for the boks he won't play for Ireland again

It could well do. If he plays for SA, he becomes NIQ and we're only allowed a certain number of those.

[LoveOfTheGame]

Good player, but don't you have enough wings?

I like Kok but he's not exactly the fastest winger in South Africa.
Thaakir Abrahams is leaving.
Marnus Potgieter is a great prospect but not the finished article.
Mapimpi is away with the Boks for half the season.
Volmink is a CC level player.

So in all honestly, not a bad signing. I assume he must have come at a good price too, as he is living in Durban already.

How many times did they catch Chiliboy cheat? You would think they would learn from past mistakes.

[assfly]

How many times did they catch Chiliboy cheat? You would think they would learn from past mistakes.

I don't mind too much if he's served his time.
But still not a great look to the youngsters.

[_Os_]

Ruan Pienaar starting for the Cheetahs at flyhalf in the CC semi. I wouldn't rule out Ruan getting a Bok recall given how thin we are at 10, stronger boot/passing/tactical awareness than Elton.

[average joe]

Pienaar is on pension since 2016?
Springbok management has disappointed me with the recall of Elton. Not only is he a very average rugby player, screwing the physio should have been the end of his career.

[OomStruisbaai]

Look like Libbok will get a start. Hope he dont vok it up like in the URC final. If he play the coaches must let him play his natural game, if they want him to play a kicking game, it will be a vokop.

[Sandstorm]

Look like Libbok will get a start. Hope he dont vok it up like in the URC final. If he play the coaches must let him play his natural game, if they want him to play a kicking game, it will be a vokop.

If the whole Bok team play a kicking game, they’ll lose. 2019 is long gone and that tactic is over.

[Chilli]

Look like Libbok will get a start. Hope he dont vok it up like in the URC final. If he play the coaches must let him play his natural game, if they want him to play a kicking game, it will be a vokop.

If the whole Bok team play a kicking game, they’ll lose. 2019 is long gone and that tactic is over.

You forget that Rasnaber are coaching.

[assfly]

If the whole Bok team play a kicking game, they’ll lose. 2019 is long gone and that tactic is over.

No it's not. If anything, teams are kicking more. It's also a world cup, so our kicking game will be paramount.

I don't mind a kicking game; if it's done properly it will win us games.

[assfly]

If the whole Bok team play a kicking game, they’ll lose. 2019 is long gone and that tactic is over.

No it's not. If anything, teams are kicking more. It's also a world cup, so our kicking game will be paramount.

I don't mind a kicking game; if it's done properly it will win us games.

[average joe]

Ja, I don't know how people think rugby should be played these days. First, they outlawed rucking now they want to outlaw tackling and kicking. Next would probably be the maul and then the scrum. What do we do? Run around in circles like af kop hoenders for 80 min and the winner is the one with the fanciest tail feathers.

[LoveOfTheGame]

If the whole Bok team play a kicking game, they’ll lose. 2019 is long gone and that tactic is over.

No it's not. If anything, teams are kicking more. It's also a world cup, so our kicking game will be paramount.

I don't mind a kicking game; if it's done properly it will win us games.

They'll play what is in front of them, remember we did see a change in their game plan last year. Boks played more with ball in hand, which was promising to see. Let's see how they go in the RC.

[OomStruisbaai]

If the Bokke play attacking rugby and value possession they will dominating.

[Sandstorm]

You’re idiots. The most successful teams of the last 2 years - Leinster, Stormers, Crusaders - win when they keep the ball in hand and stop kicking away possession.

It’s easy to defend against even good kicking and risk of chasing kicks is often a card for touching the fullback on his finger.

Rassieball is over.

[assfly]

You’re idiots. The most successful teams of the last 2 years - Leinster, Stormers, Crusaders - win when they keep the ball in hand and stop kicking away possession.

It’s easy to defend against even good kicking and risk of chasing kicks is often a card for touching the fullback on his finger.

Rassieball is over.

You're wrong. Look at the statistics of those top teams and they all kick the ball more, and they kick it better. Go and look at the multitude of match analytics and statistics online, you'll see that the top teams kick more and better.

For example, look at this from the 2021-2022 season: https://theanalyst.com/eu/2022/07/what- ... s-2021-22/

What all four aforementioned teams have in common is that they kicked more often, and generally more accurately, than all of their domestic competitors, in some cases by a huge margin.

Leicester led the way in any sort of kicking metric across the Gallagher Premiership you can think of: kicking metres, long kicks, short kicks, finishing streets ahead of the second placed team in each of those categories whether by total across the season or on an average per match.

Whilst the Crusaders either topped or ranked in the top three for the same statistics over in Super Rugby, Montpellier and the Stormers heavily focused on a specific length of kick.

Even if you look at the URC final, Munster managed to retain 6 of their kicks in the final whereas the Stormers only once. In this year's URC, Ulster who finished 2nd in the log kicked the ball more than any other team, with Munster 4th and the Stormers 5th.

[average joe]

The most successful teams also kick. They just do it better. How many tries have been scored due to cross field kicks and well placed up and unders?

How can you say Leinster and the Stormers are the most successful teams when both of them was knocked out by fokon Munster? The fancy pants Leinster have been kicked in the teeth for the last two years by La-Rochelle in the big cup.

Going on the evidence presented I suggest you only see what you believe to be true and not what is factually true. In other words, you are delusional.

[Sandstorm]

Ah, yes. KICK WELL. That’s the important but how will the Boks do that when the 4 main kickers - Willie, Libbok, Willemse and Herschel all are erratic off the boot?

It’s RWC time and one bad half of kicking and you’re on the plane home. If you have no Plan B (a Nienaber specialty) then it’s over.

If we keep the ball more and kick less (not never), there’s less risk in my opinion. We have the backs to score a hatful of tries, let’s use them properly.

[assfly]

Stormers kicking the ball from hand statistics are interesting.

Libbok kicked the ball 167 times this last season, the second most of any player in the URC. The distance he kicked this season is 4,812 meters. This is the equivalent of kicking the ball continuously from Cape Town to Dar es Salaam.

Between Blommetjies (59), Willemse (49), Jantjies (47), de Wet (41) and Feinberg-Mngomezulu (24), you could probably argue that nobody kicks the ball more than the Stormers.

Yet they are also regarded as a running, attacking, try-scoring team.

[assfly]

How can you say Leinster and the Stormers are the most successful teams when both of them was knocked out by fokon Munster? The fancy pants Leinster have been kicked in the teeth for the last two years by La-Rochelle in the big cup.

I'm looking at the URC log from the last two years. Don't be facetious, you don't get to the semi-finals of the URC by being a poor team.

[assfly]

Ah, yes. KICK WELL. That’s the important but how will the Boks do that when the 4 main kickers - Willie, Libbok, Willemse and Herschel all are erratic off the boot?

It's a massive problem for the Boks. Our 2019 RWC win as built on two very good kickers at 9 and 10. I have no idea what form Faf is in, and if Pollard is injured we're in trouble. We may need to see Reinarch Libbok be given a chance in TRC to see how they play together.

[average joe]

How can you say Leinster and the Stormers are the most successful teams when both of them was knocked out by fokon Munster? The fancy pants Leinster have been kicked in the teeth for the last two years by La-Rochelle in the big cup.

I'm looking at the URC log from the last two years. Don't be facetious, you don't get to the semi-finals of the URC by being a poor team.

Who said they were poor? Sandy claimed they are the most successful. If they were the most successful, they'll have something to show for it.

[OomStruisbaai]

The most successful teams also kick. They just do it better. How many tries have been scored due to cross field kicks and well placed up and unders?

How can you say Leinster and the Stormers are the most successful teams when both of them was knocked out by fokon Munster? The fancy pants Leinster have been kicked in the teeth for the last two years by La-Rochelle in the big cup.

Going on the evidence presented I suggest you only see what you believe to be true and not what is factually true. In other words, you are delusional.

The two losses against Munster was when Libbok kicked like an u13 flyhalf

[handyman]

It will be interesting to see if Rassie and Nienaber choose 1 way of playing or if they will mix it up depending on opposition and conditions. You can be sure that they would have done their homework.

[average joe]

Stop focusing on that. The whole point there is to point out Sandy's delusions and that his opinion cannot be trusted. Don't get me wrong, I think he's a good bloke but his idea on running everything from anywhere can just as easily cost you a game as shit kicks.

Everyone who knows something about this game knows that good kicking is just as important as a good defence or attack.

[LoveOfTheGame]

Stop focusing on that. The whole point there is to point out Sandy's delusions and that his opinion cannot be trusted. Don't get me wrong, I think he's a good bloke but his idea on running everything from anywhere can just as easily cost you a game as shit kicks.

Everyone who knows something about this game knows that good kicking is just as important as a good defence or attack.

As I said before as well, they will play what is in front of them. They have recently shown that they are willing to play with ball in hand, whereas before the go to tactic was to box kick the crap out of anything that looks egg shaped. The Boks will still kick, make no mistake, all the teams do. But it won't be the only thing they can or will do.

[average joe]

Stop focusing on that. The whole point there is to point out Sandy's delusions and that his opinion cannot be trusted. Don't get me wrong, I think he's a good bloke but his idea on running everything from anywhere can just as easily cost you a game as shit kicks.

Everyone who knows something about this game knows that good kicking is just as important as a good defence or attack.

As I said before as well, they will play what is in front of them. They have recently shown that they are willing to play with ball in hand, whereas before the go to tactic was to box kick the crap out of anything that looks egg shaped. The Boks will still kick, make no mistake, all the teams do. But it won't be the only thing they can or will do.

Ja and the first fluffed box kick by Faf, Sandy kak his broeks and tells us we should have listened to him because he's a genius.

[OomStruisbaai]

RasNaber is to much of detail coaches to think the Boks will just pitch up and play whats in front of them. Maybe you get this in Boland club rugby.

[OomStruisbaai]

Stop focusing on that. The whole point there is to point out Sandy's delusions and that his opinion cannot be trusted. Don't get me wrong, I think he's a good bloke but his idea on running everything from anywhere can just as easily cost you a game as shit kicks.

Everyone who knows something about this game knows that good kicking is just as important as a good defence or attack.

As I said before as well, they will play what is in front of them. They have recently shown that they are willing to play with ball in hand, whereas before the go to tactic was to box kick the crap out of anything that looks egg shaped. The Boks will still kick, make no mistake, all the teams do. But it won't be the only thing they can or will do.

Ja and the first fluffed box kick by Faf, Sandy kak his broeks and tells us we should have listened to him because he's a genius.

As a Vrystaat supporter you should understand what Sandy means. Only kick in your own half.

[average joe]

As I said before as well, they will play what is in front of them. They have recently shown that they are willing to play with ball in hand, whereas before the go to tactic was to box kick the crap out of anything that looks egg shaped. The Boks will still kick, make no mistake, all the teams do. But it won't be the only thing they can or will do.

Ja and the first fluffed box kick by Faf, Sandy kak his broeks and tells us we should have listened to him because he's a genius.

As a Vrystaat supporter you should understand what Sandy means. Only kick in your own half.

It's all about decision making and execution oom. Sometimes you don't even have to kick in your own half. Problem is when people look at a game and kak and complain about one shit kick or one dropped ball but don't mention the other 9 times when it worked.

[OomStruisbaai]

Ja and the first fluffed box kick by Faf, Sandy kak his broeks and tells us we should have listened to him because he's a genius.

As a Vrystaat supporter you should understand what Sandy means. Only kick in your own half.

It's all about decision making and execution oom. Sometimes you don't even have to kick in your own half. Problem is when people look at a game and kak and complain about one shit kick or one dropped ball but don't mention the other 9 times when it worked.

The Springboks box kicks in the opponent half make me sick. It should be a no goer. If they get one right, they keep on doing it. You cant give the top teams like Ireland, France and the All Blacks possession on a platter.

[average joe]

As a Vrystaat supporter you should understand what Sandy means. Only kick in your own half.

It's all about decision making and execution oom. Sometimes you don't even have to kick in your own half. Problem is when people look at a game and kak and complain about one shit kick or one dropped ball but don't mention the other 9 times when it worked.

The Springboks box kicks in the opponent half make me sick. It should be a no goer. If they get one right, they keep on doing it. You cant give the top teams like Ireland, France and the All Blacks possession on a platter.

I agree, some of those kicks in the past were questionable. Hope they've learned from them.

What do you do when your attack is dead in the water and you're getting smashed back at the contact points, you're not making any meters? Regardless of where you are positioned there, you kick, and you make sure your execution is flawless.

The game is too dynamic to just say don't kick, run everything.

[assfly]

The Springboks box kicks in the opponent half make me sick. It should be a no goer. If they get one right, they keep on doing it. You cant give the top teams like Ireland, France and the All Blacks possession on a platter.

It's not as simple as that though. A well-placed box kick leads to a 50/50 gamble of getting the ball back. If you don't, then you put them under pressure to exit and you get the lineout.

[Sandstorm]

I didn’t say Boks should run everything. I said we shouldn’t kick everything like they did in 2019.