Springbokke next 4 years to 2027
Fuck them. The Boks will play in green and gold. They'll know it's the Boks because they'll be the physically dominant side that's winning, blind bastards.
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An Ireland fan was envious of what Nike produced for the Springboks stating: “God that collar is just sexy. We could have had a green jersey like that if our designer wasn’t colourblind and after an 8 week bender of horse tranquillisers and rock shore.”
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On a positive note the home jersey is fucking aces.
Yes, I agree 100%.
I never liked the Asics version. Nike have done a great job with this, and good to see a collar back
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I am also surprise about that. The Bulls scrum struggled all season. Mchunu would have been a much better option.
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6 props with Trevor who can go both sides. Doubt he'll get any game time anyways. Spaar piel in die hoerhuis.
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Yup the Bulls props should not be near the Bok team in current form, they have been useless for the last 2 seasons. There is a very good reason why the Bulls are getting other props in for next season.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2023 12:11 pmI am also surprise about that. The Bulls scrum struggled all season. Mchunu would have been a much better option.
I know we have to take that victory against Australia with a pinch of salt, but there is some serious heat coming down on the incumbent Bok 15 from guys on the fringes.
Duane still has it, putting pressure of Wiese.
I'm not sure how much longer Mapimpi can keep the 11 jersey with the form KLA is in.
AE looking good in the 12 jersey.
Having said that, I'm not sure Reinarch has done enough to consider himself one of the 3 scrumhalves. Williams looked much better when he came on, I hope he gets a start in the RC.
Duane still has it, putting pressure of Wiese.
I'm not sure how much longer Mapimpi can keep the 11 jersey with the form KLA is in.
AE looking good in the 12 jersey.
Having said that, I'm not sure Reinarch has done enough to consider himself one of the 3 scrumhalves. Williams looked much better when he came on, I hope he gets a start in the RC.
It was a super team effort.assfly wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 7:41 am I know we have to take that victory against Australia with a pinch of salt, but there is some serious heat coming down on the incumbent Bok 15 from guys on the fringes.
Duane still has it, putting pressure of Wiese.
I'm not sure how much longer Mapimpi can keep the 11 jersey with the form KLA is in.
AE looking good in the 12 jersey.
Having said that, I'm not sure Reinarch has done enough to consider himself one of the 3 scrumhalves. Williams looked much better when he came on, I hope he gets a start in the RC.
AE really played well. He mixed bashing it up with some very good skills in passing and offloading. I'd start him on Saturday.
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And I also can't see how Mapimpi can still be ahead of Arendse, Mapimpi did not have the greatest of season either Arendse and Kolbe would be my first choice wingers as it stands right now.
DDA might have a hard time keeping Esterhuizen out as well. He was not that hot for the boks last season either.
As a Bulls supporter I am looking forward to see Arendse, Moody and Le Roux together next season. Le Roux has more creativity in his pinkie than Chris Smith has in his whole body
We should be in pretty good shape after the WC with several players most likely retiring, there are some really good replacements coming along, as long as our current U20's do not get close
DDA might have a hard time keeping Esterhuizen out as well. He was not that hot for the boks last season either.
As a Bulls supporter I am looking forward to see Arendse, Moody and Le Roux together next season. Le Roux has more creativity in his pinkie than Chris Smith has in his whole body
We should be in pretty good shape after the WC with several players most likely retiring, there are some really good replacements coming along, as long as our current U20's do not get close
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1) Mapimpi was one of the stand out Shark players during the last season. As in one of the very few players that played consistently well. When he did play anyway. How you missed that is showing your bias.bok_viking wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:27 am And I also can't see how Mapimpi can still be ahead of Arendse, Mapimpi did not have the greatest of season either Arendse and Kolbe would be my first choice wingers as it stands right now.
DDA might have a hard time keeping Esterhuizen out as well. He was not that hot for the boks last season either.
As a Bulls supporter I am looking forward to see Arendse, Moody and Le Roux together next season. Le Roux has more creativity in his pinkie than Chris Smith has in his whole body
We should be in pretty good shape after the WC with several players most likely retiring, there are some really good replacements coming along, as long as our current U20's do not get close
2) You are looking forward to Arendse, Moody and Le Roux never seeing the ball next season you mean?
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No bias, I love Mapimpi, on form he is a destructive runner, but I just do not think he is no.1 right now. Arendse Strike rate is higher than Mapimpi this season and that is with a useless FH where the backline do not see as much ball as the Sharks.LoveOfTheGame wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 12:09 pm1) Mapimpi was one of the stand out Shark players during the last season. As in one of the very few players that played consistently well. When he did play anyway. How you missed that is showing your bias.bok_viking wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:27 am And I also can't see how Mapimpi can still be ahead of Arendse, Mapimpi did not have the greatest of season either Arendse and Kolbe would be my first choice wingers as it stands right now.
DDA might have a hard time keeping Esterhuizen out as well. He was not that hot for the boks last season either.
As a Bulls supporter I am looking forward to see Arendse, Moody and Le Roux together next season. Le Roux has more creativity in his pinkie than Chris Smith has in his whole body
We should be in pretty good shape after the WC with several players most likely retiring, there are some really good replacements coming along, as long as our current U20's do not get close
2) You are looking forward to Arendse, Moody and Le Roux never seeing the ball next season you mean?
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$hark$ only see ball going to Curwin Bosch.bok_viking wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 1:01 pmNo bias, I love Mapimpi, on form he is a destructive runner, but I just do not think he is no.1 right now. Arendse Strike rate is higher than Mapimpi this season and that is with a useless FH where the backline do not see as much ball as the Sharks.LoveOfTheGame wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 12:09 pm1) Mapimpi was one of the stand out Shark players during the last season. As in one of the very few players that played consistently well. When he did play anyway. How you missed that is showing your bias.bok_viking wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:27 am And I also can't see how Mapimpi can still be ahead of Arendse, Mapimpi did not have the greatest of season either Arendse and Kolbe would be my first choice wingers as it stands right now.
DDA might have a hard time keeping Esterhuizen out as well. He was not that hot for the boks last season either.
As a Bulls supporter I am looking forward to see Arendse, Moody and Le Roux together next season. Le Roux has more creativity in his pinkie than Chris Smith has in his whole body
We should be in pretty good shape after the WC with several players most likely retiring, there are some really good replacements coming along, as long as our current U20's do not get close
2) You are looking forward to Arendse, Moody and Le Roux never seeing the ball next season you mean?
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would have been interesting to see how last weeks team would have done today against the ABs. Boks totally off the pace the first 30min and lost the game there. Hope our coaches are trying to evolve the squad, but i fear they will persist with the same old
Willemse has to go, he can provide backline cover from the bench in place of Frans Steyn, he just isn't good enough to start at 10. Let Libbok start until pollard returns.
KLA in better form than Mapimpi
Esterhuizen clearly has surpassed DDA
I am still not convinced of Wiese and Kwagga. We have better backrow options in Marco, JLdP, Evan, Deon
Marx always has to start
Willemse has to go, he can provide backline cover from the bench in place of Frans Steyn, he just isn't good enough to start at 10. Let Libbok start until pollard returns.
KLA in better form than Mapimpi
Esterhuizen clearly has surpassed DDA
I am still not convinced of Wiese and Kwagga. We have better backrow options in Marco, JLdP, Evan, Deon
Marx always has to start
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Frans injured and retired. Lambie injured and retired. Boeta wasn't selected and doesn't have the caps. Elton literally fucked himself out of a jersey. But there is still someone, the last of a great generation of players still going ... Ruan Pienaar.boere wors wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 10:56 am Willemse has to go, he can provide backline cover from the bench in place of Frans Steyn, he just isn't good enough to start at 10. Let Libbok start until pollard returns.
I would give Ruan a run at 10 and see how he goes before the RWC. If he goes okay, our 10s are Pollard/Ruan/Willemse in that order.
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No love for Manie?_Os_ wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:07 pmFrans injured and retired. Lambie injured and retired. Boeta wasn't selected and doesn't have the caps. Elton literally fucked himself out of a jersey. But there is still someone, the last of a great generation of players still going ... Ruan Pienaar.boere wors wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 10:56 am Willemse has to go, he can provide backline cover from the bench in place of Frans Steyn, he just isn't good enough to start at 10. Let Libbok start until pollard returns.
I would give Ruan a run at 10 and see how he goes before the RWC. If he goes okay, our 10s are Pollard/Ruan/Willemse in that order.
Too many errors because of all the stuff he tries to do. He'll probably be like Le Roux and need seasons yet to cut the errors.boere wors wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:12 pmNo love for Manie?_Os_ wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 5:07 pmFrans injured and retired. Lambie injured and retired. Boeta wasn't selected and doesn't have the caps. Elton literally fucked himself out of a jersey. But there is still someone, the last of a great generation of players still going ... Ruan Pienaar.boere wors wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 10:56 am Willemse has to go, he can provide backline cover from the bench in place of Frans Steyn, he just isn't good enough to start at 10. Let Libbok start until pollard returns.
I would give Ruan a run at 10 and see how he goes before the RWC. If he goes okay, our 10s are Pollard/Ruan/Willemse in that order.
But lets say he can immediately cut the errors. Kicking game is not at the level needed to be Bok 10 in this side. We have to work field position and use the lineout and maul (it's ridiculous how strong the locks are, then there's Mostert and Du Toit in the backrow), shouldn't be trying to strike from deep, only hold the ball closer in. I say 10 "in this side", because it's possible to select a more kicking player at 15 to move the team around the field which allows for a more possession/running player at 10, this is what Percy did when Butch was 10. But Le Roux is the 15, so we already have a play maker/running player. If you're going to pick weak tactical kicker at 10, it also helps to have a very strong tactical player at 9 (in the past Du Preez/Ruan Pienaar/Jano Vermaak), but all our 9s are running flair type players and Faf claimed the jersey because he can kick bombs (but he's still not a kicking 9, like Du Preez/Ruan/Vermaak that could sweep at the back collect the ball and basically play like a 15).
If you pick 9 Faf 10 Libbok 15 Le Roux. It could become easy to defend against because there's no variety in there, no really strong kicker.
Also not a great idea going to the RWC where there's only Pollard as a strong goal kicker (are Faf/Kolbe/Willemse/Libbok real goal kickers? Are they scoring 80%+?).
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Rassnabber vokked up. He should have got to play at 10. I just can't see the point of playing a 10 who can't kick, pass or direct a backline and not replace him when you need points. He must really give the physio amazing bjs
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Can we say that the likes of Mapimpi, Ellende, Faf, Bongi, Mostert is past their sell by date?
Mapimpi is replaceable within the squadOomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 5:00 am Can we say that the likes of Mapimpi, Ellende, Faf, Bongi, Mostert is past their sell by date?
So are De Allende, Faf and Mostert.
I'd have Bongi in the team above Dweba.
Eben too. Otherwise agreeOomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 5:00 am Can we say that the likes of Mapimpi, Ellende, Faf, Bongi, Mostert is past their sell by date?
Definitely. Hate that arrogant prick DwebaChilli wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 5:45 amMapimpi is replaceable within the squadOomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 5:00 am Can we say that the likes of Mapimpi, Ellende, Faf, Bongi, Mostert is past their sell by date?
So are De Allende, Faf and Mostert.
I'd have Bongi in the team above Dweba.
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Wiese fails to impress for the boks as well. Duane can start again.
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At the moment is Bongi above Marx. Only to give NieNaber the right numbers. His throwing is worse then Dweba. At least Joseph can defend and is a much better ball carrier.Chilli wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 5:45 amMapimpi is replaceable within the squadOomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 5:00 am Can we say that the likes of Mapimpi, Ellende, Faf, Bongi, Mostert is past their sell by date?
So are De Allende, Faf and Mostert.
I'd have Bongi in the team above Dweba.
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Yep. We need Duanne as captain. Much better captain as Etsebeth.boere wors wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 7:06 am Wiese fails to impress for the boks as well. Duane can start again.
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Good point. Otherwise I think Eben is one of our most important players. He came back from two month injury and the death of his father. He shouldnt have played imho. But will be good. Him and RG to start.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 7:15 amYep. We need Duanne as captain. Much better captain as Etsebeth.boere wors wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 7:06 am Wiese fails to impress for the boks as well. Duane can start again.