NPR

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:04 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:57 pm

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:36 pm UK businesses only have to put a small Union Jack sticker on the product, right?

Absolutely; & if they could put them on the outside of the shipping containers too; that'll make it much easier for the French, Dutch, & Belgian officials to know which trucks they need move over to the; EPIQ Lane*.


* Excruciatingly Pedantic Inspection Queue

Some folk might think that's a joke, but when I worked in France we used to have to import fence wire/netting and tools from New Zealand to the UK and then get them shipped out to France.

Direct imports would spend months and months.... and months in a warehouse in Marseille - this went back to Rainbow Warrior apparently.

weegie01 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:04 pmBoth sides are at fault for not agreeing the mechanism by which proof of historic fishing would be provided. Having said that, it is not unreasonable to expect there to be proof.

Frankly, an awful lot of detail seems to have been missed in relation to this issue, perhaps because the overall agreement between the EU and UK was much wider and this issue relates only to a relatively small number of boats that are nearly all French in a small geographic area.

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 1:59 pm What's going on?

Britain delays post-Brexit checks on goods from Ireland for EU talks

The British government has announced it is putting off the introduction of full customs controls on goods moving from Ireland into Britain.

It says the controls, which were due to come in on 1 January, cannot be implemented while the Northern Ireland Protocol is under negotiation.

The Tánaiste said it was a "welcome and sensible move which will be good news for Irish exporters and farmers especially at this time of year".

Leo Varadkar added: "Advice on preparing for future customs checks is available from Enterprise Ireland."

In a written statement today, EU negotiator David Frost said Britain will temporarily delay implementing customs and veterinary controls on goods moving into Britain from Ireland and Northern Ireland.

Checks on incoming goods from the European Union - covering mainly food and agricultural products - are due to come into force on January 1, bringing post-Brexit customs arrangements with the bloc in line with those with the rest of world.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:34 pm Any UK Media reporting this ?

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2021/1 ... s-delayed/

Britain delays post-Brexit checks on goods from Ireland for EU talks

The British government has announced it is putting off the introduction of full customs controls on goods moving from Ireland into Britain.

It says the controls, which were due to come in on 1 January, cannot be implemented while the Northern Ireland Protocol is under negotiation.

The Tánaiste said it was a "welcome and sensible move which will be good news for Irish exporters and farmers especially at this time of year".

Leo Varadkar added: "Advice on preparing for future customs checks is available from Enterprise Ireland."

In a written statement today, EU negotiator David Frost said Britain will temporarily delay implementing customs and veterinary controls on goods moving into Britain from Ireland and Northern Ireland.

Checks on incoming goods from the European Union - covering mainly food and agricultural products - are due to come into force on January 1, bringing post-Brexit customs arrangements with the bloc in line with those with the rest of world.

So it turns out the UK does need us; more than we need them !

Why else would the UK be turning down the income stream from customs duties; & risk the wrath of other WTO countries ?

Biffer wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:06 am

petej wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:07 am

Biffer wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:06 am

It was interesting that the lib dems used Brexit being shit for farmers in the by election. It was a constituency that voted heavily for Brexit. I think Johnson's shit Brexit deal could start to be a line of attack (certainly for the lib Dems and hopefully for labour).

GogLais wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:24 am

petej wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:07 am

Biffer wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:06 am

It was interesting that the lib dems used Brexit being shit for farmers in the by election. It was a constituency that voted heavily for Brexit. I think Johnson's shit Brexit deal could start to be a line of attack (certainly for the lib Dems and hopefully for labour).

Logical way to go as long as you can say "I told you so" politely.

GogLais wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:24 am

petej wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:07 am

Biffer wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:06 am

It was interesting that the lib dems used Brexit being shit for farmers in the by election. It was a constituency that voted heavily for Brexit. I think Johnson's shit Brexit deal could start to be a line of attack (certainly for the lib Dems and hopefully for labour).

Logical way to go as long as you can say "I told you so" politely.

Biffer wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:49 am

GogLais wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:24 am

petej wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:07 am

It was interesting that the lib dems used Brexit being shit for farmers in the by election. It was a constituency that voted heavily for Brexit. I think Johnson's shit Brexit deal could start to be a line of attack (certainly for the lib Dems and hopefully for labour).

Logical way to go as long as you can say "I told you so" politely.

Don’t even need to say I told you so. The line is, yes I was a remainder but I fully accept the vote. However this constant shambles of a conservative government has totally bolloxed it up, and absolutely destroyed the industries they were meant to be protecting.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:23 pm

Whatever could he have wanted to discuss with them ?

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:06 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:23 pm

Whatever could he have wanted to discuss with them ?

The candidate for this week's by-election made some very pro NHS privatisation remarks, this idea isn't going away and I fear that another Tory win at the next election will be curtains for the NHS. All the praise from the top Tories about what a great job the NHS have done during the pandemic ring ever more hollow

petej wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:23 pm

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:06 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:23 pm

Whatever could he have wanted to discuss with them ?

The candidate for this week's by-election made some very pro NHS privatisation remarks, this idea isn't going away and I fear that another Tory win at the next election will be curtains for the NHS. All the praise from the top Tories about what a great job the NHS have done during the pandemic ring ever more hollow

Will have to be done by stealth. You could start charging the population under 40s for more of their health care needs.

I like neeps wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:27 pm

petej wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:23 pm
Will have to be done by stealth. You could start charging the population under 40s for more of their health care needs.

Charge your core voters for healthcare? Good luck.
They'll charge young people who don't vote for them if anything.

tc27 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:56 pm Its nonsense just like every over story about someone 'buying' the NHS. The source is Richard Burgon FFS.

dpedin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:28 pm So Frost has resigned - something to do with unhappy with government decision re Plan B for covid. For me he is just shitting himself about the debacle that happens on the 1st January and the shitshow when the UK have to implement Custom checks and tariffs and is off before he gets the blame. Another body blow for the Blonde Bumblecunt and his Brexit Ultras will be very unhappy. I suspect the trickle of rats deserting the sinking ship will become a flood very quickly now.

dpedin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:28 pm So Frost has resigned - something to do with unhappy with government decision re Plan B for covid. For me he is just shitting himself about the debacle that happens on the 1st January and the shitshow when the UK have to implement Custom checks and tariffs and is off before he gets the blame. Another body blow for the Blonde Bumblecunt and his Brexit Ultras will be very unhappy. I suspect the trickle of rats deserting the sinking ship will become a flood very quickly now.

Biffer wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:19 pm Oven ready deal deFrosted

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:39 pm

dpedin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:28 pm So Frost has resigned - something to do with unhappy with government decision re Plan B for covid. For me he is just shitting himself about the debacle that happens on the 1st January and the shitshow when the UK have to implement Custom checks and tariffs and is off before he gets the blame. Another body blow for the Blonde Bumblecunt and his Brexit Ultras will be very unhappy. I suspect the trickle of rats deserting the sinking ship will become a flood very quickly now.

So he put in his papers last week; but the PM didn't feel it necessary to let the rest of Parliament know; until after they'd gone into recess. And last week was when they backed down on the ECJ; & gave up on the article 16 farce.

The only worry is, now he'll go looking thru the frothing loons in the ERG for a replacement.

Lord Frost reportedly furious with the terms of his resignation after negotiating them himself.

From the Secretary of State, Department for International Trade:

Dear Rishi and Michael,

I am writing to you to set out my key areas of concern on border policy risks and readiness for the end of the transition period and to seek your assurance that these concerns will be addressed. This letter comes in advance of the Border Operating Model publication on 13 July, where the UK's proposals for the border will come under renewed scrutiny, both on the domestic and international stage.

My key concerns are outlined below:

1) The Staged Approach and WTO Challenge - When we exit the Transition Period, the UK will be vulnerable to WTO challenge regarding its border regime. This is especially relevant concerning the implementation of the NI protocol and the application of the staged approach. These measures could significantly impact on the UK's reputation at the WTO and I would appreciate your assurance that full border checks for EU-GB goods will be implemented no later than July 2021 and that all messaging will clearly reflect this point. I would also like to underscore that, where there is a risk of legal challenge at the WTO, departments are responsible for mitigating the risk and for funding the costs of any defensive trade dispute brought against their measures. Given this risk, I was pleased to hear that following the XO meeting last Friday, it was decided that the temporary waiving of export declarations will not be included in the publication. I would want to be part of any decision to revisit this, either with reference to the publication, or plans thereafter.

2) Controls at the Border - I recognise there are challenges to delivering tariff declaration systems on both EU and Rest of World (RoW) imports but, to ensure we can develop appropriate handling plans for national and international stakeholders, it is essential that my department has a clear view of operation delivery plans, timescales and risks going forward. This is also particularly important for controlled goods at those EU-facing ports where the infrastructure to implement controls does not currently exist. Given the legal, reputational and security risks, I would like assurances that we are able to deliver full controls at these ports by July 2021 and that plans are in place from January to mitigate the risk of goods being circumvented from ports implementing full controls.

3) Tariff Assessment and Collection - I have some further concerns about tariff collection due to the staging in approach, especially around the increased likelihood of circumvention, where RoW traders could import their goods via the EU. This would undermine the effective operation of our trade policy, as well as create significant handling difficulties with negotiating partners. For example, it might lead to remedy tariffs being circumvented, due to a lack of checks at the border, in addition to impacts on TRQs. I therefore would like firm assurances that mitigation against such risks are in place. Further, I am seeking assurance that tariffs on goods from RoW, specifically from countries where the Trade Agreements Continuity programme applies, will also be payable from 1 January 2021 and will be collected within one month as is currently the case.

4) Northern Ireland Protocol risks- I understand that the digital delivery of the dual tariff system (both EU and UK tariff) in Northern Ireland is a high risk and that HMRC are planning to apply the EU tariff as a default to all imports in NI on 1 January 2021. This is very concerning as this may call into question NI's place in the UK's customs territory. Failure to deliver the UK tariff digitally in NI, would have political, legal, and reputational risks. I am keen to see HMRC and BPDG delivery plans, specifically on how both the UK and EU tariff will be digitally implemented, including detailed mitigations, and where there are risks to delivery by 1 January 2021. These plans should also include details of when commodity code divergence will be delivered for the whole of the UK.

As we fast approach the end of the transition period, we need to ensure that the UK border is effective and compliant with international rules, maintaining our credibility with trading partners, the WTO and with business. I encourage the continued close cooperation of officials in our departments to achieve this.

I am copying this letter to the Home Secretary.

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:24 pm Glad to see that the attention is likely to switch back to cheese focused negotiations

salanya wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:08 pm

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:24 pm Glad to see that the attention is likely to switch back to cheese focused negotiations

And opening up new pork markets......

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:20 pm

salanya wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:08 pm

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:24 pm Glad to see that the attention is likely to switch back to cheese focused negotiations

And opening up new pork markets......

Pork and cheese. Both bloody awesome

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:04 pm
Liz Truss is, "replacing", Frost


The Bumblecunt has decided she's now a real threat; & he's going to bugger up her challenge. But she'll probably do exactly the same as Frost; & resign, when she thinks the moment is right to go for the Leadership; & she'll use the same self serving reasons as Frost.

petej wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:32 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:04 pm
Liz Truss is, "replacing", Frost


The Bumblecunt has decided she's now a real threat; & he's going to bugger up her challenge. But she'll probably do exactly the same as Frost; & resign, when she thinks the moment is right to go for the Leadership; & she'll use the same self serving reasons as Frost.

She will definitely do the same as Frost and bumblecunt (resigned to off Theresa May). Dealing with Brexit is like dealing with a bucket of shit and vomit but they wanted it so they can't dispose of it or clean it up so are endlessly passing it around themselves while pretending it is great and definitely not a bucket of shit and vomit.