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disgusting, and yet there are still posters defending these marchesYmx wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:44 am Joos are safe in London. Not hate marchers
https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/met-police-o ... ine-march/Shocking moment Met police officer threatens to arrest man for being 'quite openly Jewish' at pro-Palestine march
19 April 2024, 00:04 | Updated: 19 April 2024, 07:25
Shocking moment Met police officer threatens to arrest man for being 'quite openly Jewish' at pro-Palestine march
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A Met police officer threatened to arrest a man for "breaching the peace" at a pro-Palestine march as he was "quite openly Jewish".
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The man - who was wearing a kippah on his head - was trying to cross a road in the Aldwych area of London when he was stopped by police.
A video shared by Campaign Against Antisemitism from the march last weekend showed the man saying to the officer: "I don't want to stay here, I want to leave."
The officer responded: "In that case sir, when the crowd is gone I will happily escort you out."
The man then attempted to walk across the road before being blocked.
Read more: Ten arrests after pro-Israel and pro-Palestine groups clash in London
Read more: Shocking moment Met Police officer says ‘swastikas need to be looked at in context’ at pro-Palestine march in London
"I don't want anybody antagonising anybody... and at the moment sir, you are quite openly Jewish. This is a pro-Palestinian march," one officer said.
"I am not accusing you of anything but I am worried about the reaction to your presence."
He later added: "There's a unit of people here now. You will be escorted out of this area so you can go about your business, go where you want freely or if you choose to remain here because you are causing a breach of peace, with all these other people, you will be arrested.
"Your presence here is antagonising a large group of people that we can't deal with all of them if they attack you... because your presence is antagonising them."
The clip also showed an interaction with another officer, who said: "I am trying to make sure you are safe and that no one attacks you or your group or anyone else, that's all."
The Jewish man responded saying: "I'd like that too but your sergeant here has told me that because I'm Jewish, it's antagonistic to the crowd and it's dangerous for me."
"I'm not saying that," the second officer said.
"But he's just said that," the man said. "Do you have any idea what it's like being a Jew in London at the moment?"
Read more: Woman claims complaint about swastika in Star of David was dropped by police 'because she isn't Jewish'
Read more: NHS staff 'reminded of dress code policy' after claims 'visibly Jewish' boy was mistreated at hospital
He continued: "Let me tell you, this goes on every Saturday, you probably know it, your colleagues know it. You guys are on the front line. The route changes every single week, you never have any idea where it's going to be.
"Because you're Jewish in London, you now have to cross these huge groups of people. It's intimidating enough and now look at the number of police that are around her... I'm just a Jew in London trying to cross the road.
"I've been told repeatedly by the Met that these are completely safe for Jews, that I should have nothing to worry about and yet here I find myself in this bubble.
"This guy has just been shouting at me and shoving me because I want to cross the road."
Speaking about his experience later on, the man said he sympathised with frontline officers who are put in "impossible positions" every week.
Responding to the clip, the Met said: "We are aware of this video and fully acknowledge the worry it has caused, not only to those featured, but also anyone who watches it, and will review the circumstances.
"We have always said that we recognise the conflict between Israel and Hamas continues to be an issue of concern for many Londoners, and this includes the regular protests and marches in central London.
"Everyone has the right to travel throughout the capital in safety.
"We will meet and discuss with anyone who wishes to organise a march or protest ahead of 27 April."
Jocelin Weiss calls for 'anti-bias training' in the Met
It comes after officers were previously filmed telling a Jewish woman that swastikas shown in a pro-Palestine march needed to be "taken in context".
Jocelin Weiss told police that she saw the Nazi symbol being displayed on banners during a march through London.
She was told that displaying a swastika was "not necessarily anti-Semitic" nor "a disruption of public order". The furious activist asked the police officer in what context a swastika could not be seen as anti-Semitic.
One officer replied: "I didn't say it was or it wasn't."
A Met Police Chief Inspector then interrupted and said: "A swastika on its own, I don't think is..."
Speaking on LBC's Nick Ferrari at Breakfast, Ms Weiss said she believed there was a lapse in education and training in the Met police.
She said the pro-Palestine marches were "out of control", adding that "you don't need to be a master of semiotics" to know the meaning of the swastika.
The American documentary maker told Nick: "I think it's a lack of literacy. I wasn't educated in British schools, I live here now, I really do love London, but I don't know what education there is in regards to literacy on this issue.
"Clearly there is a gap. There needs to be anti-bias training programmes in regards to anti-Semitism with the Met.
"There is clearly a lapse in communication and a lapse in this training - whether that comes from the Community Security Trust (CST) I'm not sure but there needs to be a training in this regard because there's a lack of education."
He had to wait for a bit, boohoo. It was the police advice not the fault of anyone on the marches. Long may these marches continue while civilians are being murdered, bombed and starved, by an evil and out of control regime. I not only defend them I support the marches as anyone with a conscience or humanity should.Calculon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 4:38 pmdisgusting, and yet there are still posters defending these marchesYmx wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:44 am Joos are safe in London. Not hate marchers
https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/met-police-o ... ine-march/Shocking moment Met police officer threatens to arrest man for being 'quite openly Jewish' at pro-Palestine march
19 April 2024, 00:04 | Updated: 19 April 2024, 07:25
Shocking moment Met police officer threatens to arrest man for being 'quite openly Jewish' at pro-Palestine march
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A Met police officer threatened to arrest a man for "breaching the peace" at a pro-Palestine march as he was "quite openly Jewish".
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The man - who was wearing a kippah on his head - was trying to cross a road in the Aldwych area of London when he was stopped by police.
A video shared by Campaign Against Antisemitism from the march last weekend showed the man saying to the officer: "I don't want to stay here, I want to leave."
The officer responded: "In that case sir, when the crowd is gone I will happily escort you out."
The man then attempted to walk across the road before being blocked.
Read more: Ten arrests after pro-Israel and pro-Palestine groups clash in London
Read more: Shocking moment Met Police officer says ‘swastikas need to be looked at in context’ at pro-Palestine march in London
"I don't want anybody antagonising anybody... and at the moment sir, you are quite openly Jewish. This is a pro-Palestinian march," one officer said.
"I am not accusing you of anything but I am worried about the reaction to your presence."
He later added: "There's a unit of people here now. You will be escorted out of this area so you can go about your business, go where you want freely or if you choose to remain here because you are causing a breach of peace, with all these other people, you will be arrested.
"Your presence here is antagonising a large group of people that we can't deal with all of them if they attack you... because your presence is antagonising them."
The clip also showed an interaction with another officer, who said: "I am trying to make sure you are safe and that no one attacks you or your group or anyone else, that's all."
The Jewish man responded saying: "I'd like that too but your sergeant here has told me that because I'm Jewish, it's antagonistic to the crowd and it's dangerous for me."
"I'm not saying that," the second officer said.
"But he's just said that," the man said. "Do you have any idea what it's like being a Jew in London at the moment?"
Read more: Woman claims complaint about swastika in Star of David was dropped by police 'because she isn't Jewish'
Read more: NHS staff 'reminded of dress code policy' after claims 'visibly Jewish' boy was mistreated at hospital
He continued: "Let me tell you, this goes on every Saturday, you probably know it, your colleagues know it. You guys are on the front line. The route changes every single week, you never have any idea where it's going to be.
"Because you're Jewish in London, you now have to cross these huge groups of people. It's intimidating enough and now look at the number of police that are around her... I'm just a Jew in London trying to cross the road.
"I've been told repeatedly by the Met that these are completely safe for Jews, that I should have nothing to worry about and yet here I find myself in this bubble.
"This guy has just been shouting at me and shoving me because I want to cross the road."
Speaking about his experience later on, the man said he sympathised with frontline officers who are put in "impossible positions" every week.
Responding to the clip, the Met said: "We are aware of this video and fully acknowledge the worry it has caused, not only to those featured, but also anyone who watches it, and will review the circumstances.
"We have always said that we recognise the conflict between Israel and Hamas continues to be an issue of concern for many Londoners, and this includes the regular protests and marches in central London.
"Everyone has the right to travel throughout the capital in safety.
"We will meet and discuss with anyone who wishes to organise a march or protest ahead of 27 April."
Jocelin Weiss calls for 'anti-bias training' in the Met
It comes after officers were previously filmed telling a Jewish woman that swastikas shown in a pro-Palestine march needed to be "taken in context".
Jocelin Weiss told police that she saw the Nazi symbol being displayed on banners during a march through London.
She was told that displaying a swastika was "not necessarily anti-Semitic" nor "a disruption of public order". The furious activist asked the police officer in what context a swastika could not be seen as anti-Semitic.
One officer replied: "I didn't say it was or it wasn't."
A Met Police Chief Inspector then interrupted and said: "A swastika on its own, I don't think is..."
Speaking on LBC's Nick Ferrari at Breakfast, Ms Weiss said she believed there was a lapse in education and training in the Met police.
She said the pro-Palestine marches were "out of control", adding that "you don't need to be a master of semiotics" to know the meaning of the swastika.
The American documentary maker told Nick: "I think it's a lack of literacy. I wasn't educated in British schools, I live here now, I really do love London, but I don't know what education there is in regards to literacy on this issue.
"Clearly there is a gap. There needs to be anti-bias training programmes in regards to anti-Semitism with the Met.
"There is clearly a lapse in communication and a lapse in this training - whether that comes from the Community Security Trust (CST) I'm not sure but there needs to be a training in this regard because there's a lack of education."
As previously stated I have been on several marches, all have had large numbers of Jews present, I've not seen anyone be antagonistic, rude or offensive toward them. I've chatted to quite a few and we have a lot of common ground. I haven't seen a single Swastika, if people have banners removed or are removed from marches because of that I have absolutely no issue with that.
I may be missing something but was the Jewish man attacked physically or verbally by a protester?
I support the marches
I may be missing something but was the Jewish man attacked physically or verbally by a protester?
I support the marches
One of the posters even attends them, sadly.Calculon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 4:38 pmdisgusting, and yet there are still posters defending these marchesYmx wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:44 am Joos are safe in London. Not hate marchers
https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/met-police-o ... ine-march/Shocking moment Met police officer threatens to arrest man for being 'quite openly Jewish' at pro-Palestine march
19 April 2024, 00:04 | Updated: 19 April 2024, 07:25
Shocking moment Met police officer threatens to arrest man for being 'quite openly Jewish' at pro-Palestine march
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A Met police officer threatened to arrest a man for "breaching the peace" at a pro-Palestine march as he was "quite openly Jewish".
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The man - who was wearing a kippah on his head - was trying to cross a road in the Aldwych area of London when he was stopped by police.
A video shared by Campaign Against Antisemitism from the march last weekend showed the man saying to the officer: "I don't want to stay here, I want to leave."
The officer responded: "In that case sir, when the crowd is gone I will happily escort you out."
The man then attempted to walk across the road before being blocked.
Read more: Ten arrests after pro-Israel and pro-Palestine groups clash in London
Read more: Shocking moment Met Police officer says ‘swastikas need to be looked at in context’ at pro-Palestine march in London
"I don't want anybody antagonising anybody... and at the moment sir, you are quite openly Jewish. This is a pro-Palestinian march," one officer said.
"I am not accusing you of anything but I am worried about the reaction to your presence."
He later added: "There's a unit of people here now. You will be escorted out of this area so you can go about your business, go where you want freely or if you choose to remain here because you are causing a breach of peace, with all these other people, you will be arrested.
"Your presence here is antagonising a large group of people that we can't deal with all of them if they attack you... because your presence is antagonising them."
The clip also showed an interaction with another officer, who said: "I am trying to make sure you are safe and that no one attacks you or your group or anyone else, that's all."
The Jewish man responded saying: "I'd like that too but your sergeant here has told me that because I'm Jewish, it's antagonistic to the crowd and it's dangerous for me."
"I'm not saying that," the second officer said.
"But he's just said that," the man said. "Do you have any idea what it's like being a Jew in London at the moment?"
Read more: Woman claims complaint about swastika in Star of David was dropped by police 'because she isn't Jewish'
Read more: NHS staff 'reminded of dress code policy' after claims 'visibly Jewish' boy was mistreated at hospital
He continued: "Let me tell you, this goes on every Saturday, you probably know it, your colleagues know it. You guys are on the front line. The route changes every single week, you never have any idea where it's going to be.
"Because you're Jewish in London, you now have to cross these huge groups of people. It's intimidating enough and now look at the number of police that are around her... I'm just a Jew in London trying to cross the road.
"I've been told repeatedly by the Met that these are completely safe for Jews, that I should have nothing to worry about and yet here I find myself in this bubble.
"This guy has just been shouting at me and shoving me because I want to cross the road."
Speaking about his experience later on, the man said he sympathised with frontline officers who are put in "impossible positions" every week.
Responding to the clip, the Met said: "We are aware of this video and fully acknowledge the worry it has caused, not only to those featured, but also anyone who watches it, and will review the circumstances.
"We have always said that we recognise the conflict between Israel and Hamas continues to be an issue of concern for many Londoners, and this includes the regular protests and marches in central London.
"Everyone has the right to travel throughout the capital in safety.
"We will meet and discuss with anyone who wishes to organise a march or protest ahead of 27 April."
Jocelin Weiss calls for 'anti-bias training' in the Met
It comes after officers were previously filmed telling a Jewish woman that swastikas shown in a pro-Palestine march needed to be "taken in context".
Jocelin Weiss told police that she saw the Nazi symbol being displayed on banners during a march through London.
She was told that displaying a swastika was "not necessarily anti-Semitic" nor "a disruption of public order". The furious activist asked the police officer in what context a swastika could not be seen as anti-Semitic.
One officer replied: "I didn't say it was or it wasn't."
A Met Police Chief Inspector then interrupted and said: "A swastika on its own, I don't think is..."
Speaking on LBC's Nick Ferrari at Breakfast, Ms Weiss said she believed there was a lapse in education and training in the Met police.
She said the pro-Palestine marches were "out of control", adding that "you don't need to be a master of semiotics" to know the meaning of the swastika.
The American documentary maker told Nick: "I think it's a lack of literacy. I wasn't educated in British schools, I live here now, I really do love London, but I don't know what education there is in regards to literacy on this issue.
"Clearly there is a gap. There needs to be anti-bias training programmes in regards to anti-Semitism with the Met.
"There is clearly a lapse in communication and a lapse in this training - whether that comes from the Community Security Trust (CST) I'm not sure but there needs to be a training in this regard because there's a lack of education."
Firstly, the Jews present, they were marching holding anti Israel placards weren’t they. They are only safe with those signs, chanting anti Israel …epwc wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 4:48 pm As previously stated I have been on several marches, all have had large numbers of Jews present, I've not seen anyone be antagonistic, rude or offensive toward them. I've chatted to quite a few and we have a lot of common ground. I haven't seen a single Swastika, if people have banners removed or are removed from marches because of that I have absolutely no issue with that.
I may be missing something but was the Jewish man attacked physically or verbally by a protester?
I support the marches
You say you have failed to see a swastika, but they were there.
Lastly, did you miss something, yes, the police even mentioned about it in the dialogue. And in the footage one protester made some pretty dark threats.
A guy (Iranian) was attacked for carrying a Hamas is Terrorist signs. A few times.
No they weren't
I don't just say it, that is the truth of what I sawYou say you have failed to see a swastika, but they were there.
A guy (Iranian) was attacked for carrying a Hamas is Terrorist signs. A few times.Lastly, did you miss something, yes, the police even mentioned about it in the dialogue. And in the footage one protester made some pretty dark threats.
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In that article? I still can't see it, but if that was the case then those people should have been removed from the march
And the mail order bride comment? The dingy people thread? (at least spell the word right you tosser).
Well, obviously you did not see everything at the hate marches. Because there have been swastikas !epwc wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:08 pmNo they weren't
I don't just say it, that is the truth of what I sawYou say you have failed to see a swastika, but they were there.
Lastly, did you miss something, yes, the police even mentioned about it in the dialogue. And in the footage one protester made some pretty dark threats.In that article? I still can't see it, but if that was the case then those people should have been removed from the marchA guy (Iranian) was attacked for carrying a Hamas is Terrorist signs. A few times.
As for the aggression
https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/met-police-o ... ine-march/
Click and watch the video. Forward to 5.30 where this guy starts threatening him (in front of the police).
I’ll show you the Iranian guy’s experience next.
https://www.travellerstimes.org.uk/news ... g-research
I suggest you go down to your local halting site and tell any travellers there it’s not racist
yermum beat me to it, but I'll post it anyway
from wiki
Pikey is an ethnic slur referring to Gypsy, Roma and Traveller people. It is used mainly in the United Kingdom and in Ireland to refer to people who belong to groups which had a traditional travelling lifestyle.
In my experience only "...ists" of whatever shade insist their language isn't "...ist"
from wiki
Pikey is an ethnic slur referring to Gypsy, Roma and Traveller people. It is used mainly in the United Kingdom and in Ireland to refer to people who belong to groups which had a traditional travelling lifestyle.
In my experience only "...ists" of whatever shade insist their language isn't "...ist"
Pikey is not a reference to a race, it’s an unsavoury lifestyle.yermum wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:18 pmhttps://www.travellerstimes.org.uk/news ... g-research
I suggest you go down to your local halting site and tell any travellers there it’s not racist
Ymx wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:40 pmPikey is not a reference to a race, it’s an unsavoury lifestyle.yermum wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:18 pmhttps://www.travellerstimes.org.uk/news ... g-research
I suggest you go down to your local halting site and tell any travellers there it’s not racist
Still struggling with the language since you came to these shores, then?
This happens every single time to this guy. Every week.
People take offence to his sign and he gets attacked and then arrested by the met.
This is not a once off !!
They tried to ban him from all future hate marches, but it was rejected by the courts.
Clearly just looking Jewish is enough to be seen as offensive too, as numerous anecdotes demonstrate
Ymx wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:43 pmThis happens every single time to this guy. Every week.
People take offence to his sign and he gets attacked and then arrested by the met.
This is not a once off !!
They tried to ban him from all future hate marches, but it was rejected by the courts.
Clearly just looking Jewish is enough to be seen as offensive too, as numerous anecdotes demonstrate
Every time there is a march involving thousands of people there are one or two flash points, every time.
No one is being shot at or bombed or removed from their home and forced to live in a tent with no food for for their children.
You are trying to deflect from the real issue here
I was invoking the second definition there in relation to C69Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:43 pmYmx wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:40 pmPikey is not a reference to a race, it’s an unsavoury lifestyle.yermum wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:18 pm
https://www.travellerstimes.org.uk/news ... g-research
I suggest you go down to your local halting site and tell any travellers there it’s not racist
Still struggling with the language since you came to these shores, then?
Me, deflect.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:46 pmYmx wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:43 pmThis happens every single time to this guy. Every week.
People take offence to his sign and he gets attacked and then arrested by the met.
This is not a once off !!
They tried to ban him from all future hate marches, but it was rejected by the courts.
Clearly just looking Jewish is enough to be seen as offensive too, as numerous anecdotes demonstrate
Every time there is a march involving thousands of people there are one or two flash points, every time.
No one is being shot at or bombed or removed from their home and forced to live in a tent with no food for for their children.
You are trying to deflect from the real issue here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pikey
Pikey (/ˈpaɪkiː/; also spelled pikie, pykie)[1][2] is an ethnic slur referring to Gypsy, Roma and Traveller people. It is used mainly in the United Kingdom and in Ireland to refer to people who belong to groups which had a traditional travelling lifestyle.[3][4] Groups referred to with this term include Irish Travellers, English Gypsies, Welsh Kale, Scottish Lowland Travellers, Scottish Highland Travellers, and Funfair Travellers. These groups consider the term to be highly offensive.[5][6]
It is used by extension as a classist insult against marginalised working class communities, similar to the term chav.[7]
The reason it’s applied in the second context is because it’s a comparison. I.e you are comparing someone to a traveller.
Don’t be a racist cunt and use that term.
yermum wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:33 pmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pikey
Pikey (/ˈpaɪkiː/; also spelled pikie, pykie)[1][2] is an ethnic slur referring to Gypsy, Roma and Traveller people. It is used mainly in the United Kingdom and in Ireland to refer to people who belong to groups which had a traditional travelling lifestyle.[3][4] Groups referred to with this term include Irish Travellers, English Gypsies, Welsh Kale, Scottish Lowland Travellers, Scottish Highland Travellers, and Funfair Travellers. These groups consider the term to be highly offensive.[5][6]
It is used by extension as a classist insult against marginalised working class communities, similar to the term chav.[7]
The reason it’s applied in the second context is because it’s a comparison. I.e you are comparing someone to a traveller.
Don’t be a racist cunt and use that term.
Hear hear, and perhaps "I'm not racist, I'm only an arrogant snob" is not the killer retort the boy thinks it is.
Seconded.
I've worked on farms since I was 11 years old on summer jobs, then full time when I was older.
Anyone looking down on manual labour is a (insert word of choice here)
You mean let's not mention the 1,350% increase in hate crimes against Jewish people because I don't have a problem with it
No, that's not what I meant, only an idiot would think that if I oppose crimes against one section of the world populace I support crimes against another - that should not be a difficult thing to understand.
I'm very open to reading about that very specific number, so please provide the source, I am not doubting it before reading it, I'm really not.
For the record, if there was one incident of hate crime on a march and at the next one there was 12, that would count as a 1100% increase
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Arrogant knob, basic racist and something of a dumb fuck really... the slur on me for doing manual work missed the mark as well as I don't. Our boy seems to think working in the mining game means slaving away with a pick axe, perhaps with a caged canary nearby and a donkey patiently waiting to haul a cart.
He's waded out into a nasty bit of bitchslapping and given himself a right old touch up.
Thirded.
I hated it when anyone tried to pigeon-hole me in the UK. It always started with an innocent sounding question like, "What do your parents do?" but that was followed by, "Oh, so you're middle class, then." I quickly learned the most effective response was a cheerful, "Fuck right off, I have absolutely no class whatsoever! I'm a fucking classless cunt, ya cunt!"
Oh FFS, it literally takes three seconds to do an internet search that comes up with hundreds of results. If you were interested in reading about the increase in antisemitism in your own country, you would have done so. The fact that you dismiss it as not a "real issue" says it all.Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 12:30 am
No, that's not what I meant, only an idiot would think that if I oppose crimes against one section of the world populace I support crimes against another - that should not be a difficult thing to understand.
I'm very open to reading about that very specific number, so please provide the source, I am not doubting it before reading it, I'm really not.
For the record, if there was one incident of hate crime on a march and at the next one there was 12, that would count as a 1100% increase
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with 533 hate incidents – including 19 physical assaults – recorded from 7 October to 20 October, in increase of 651% compared with the same period last year.
Of the incidents, 31 were attacks on Jewish property. Three-quarters were online, including threats; 35 were at schools and 45 at universities.
The Union of Jewish Students said some young people had stopped wearing items that may identify them as being Jewish, while others had received death threats and virulent antisemitic abuse
Of the incidents, 31 were attacks on Jewish property. Three-quarters were online, including threats; 35 were at schools and 45 at universities.
The Union of Jewish Students said some young people had stopped wearing items that may identify them as being Jewish, while others had received death threats and virulent antisemitic abuse
This was in the immediate aftermath of the Hamas atrocities, even before the invasion of Gaza that is now used as an excuse.
The fact that 90% of Jews are too scared to go into London when these marches are taking place will also no doubt be dismissed as them being irrational. Instead, everyone has to support ceasefire to stop a fake genocide against a population of whom 70% support Hamas. Otherwise they are bad people.
Unfortunately for those posters who don't believe Israel has a right to exist, the rise in antisemitism in the West has brought home to many Jews the importance of having their own State, meaing more financial support and more people considering making aliyah
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Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 3:41 amNo-one has said that. No-one in here is anywhere near close to that view.
You.
Have.
No.
Credibility.
He doesn't act in good faith. Its all strawmen & gaslighting.
Nevermind the "fake genocide" in Gaza will none of the antisemites on the bored spare a thought for all the Jews in London?
I just can't take him seriously, like you said, 0 credibility.
Why make stuff up? Who here has said that Israel doesn’t have a right to exist?Calculon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 3:35 amUnfortunately for those posters who don't believe Israel has a right to exist, the rise in antisemitism in the West has brought home to many Jews the importance of having their own State, meaing more financial support and more people considering making aliyah
The level of open Islamophobia has already made many young Muslims emigrate and unfortunately for the UK it’s the highly qualified ones that are doing it. I have a nephew and niece who’ve already done it, the one who’s an infrastructure lawyer (multi billion projects) is considering it as is the consultant gastroenterologist, financial analyst nephew has a job lined up.
If Jews are leaving too then who wins?
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Angry white Twitter freaksepwc wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 7:28 amWhy make stuff up? Who here has said that Israel doesn’t have a right to exist?Calculon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 3:35 amUnfortunately for those posters who don't believe Israel has a right to exist, the rise in antisemitism in the West has brought home to many Jews the importance of having their own State, meaing more financial support and more people considering making aliyah
The level of open Islamophobia has already made many young Muslims emigrate and unfortunately for the UK it’s the highly qualified ones that are doing it. I have a nephew and niece who’ve already done it, the one who’s an infrastructure lawyer (multi billion projects) is considering it as is the consultant gastroenterologist, financial analyst nephew has a job lined up.
If Jews are leaving too then who wins?
I don’t what kind of interactions calculon and ymx have with others but yesterday I interacted with (amongst others)
My Jewish friend Paul
The Romanian ground workers on our new site
The Spanish catholic lady (friend of mine) who’s just started working with us
Went to Friday prayers at the mosque
In the evening I went to the memorial service for my Hindu friends mum at a Hindu temple
Came home and my wife and daughter were sitting watching some pile of crap on Netflix with my very white very working class mother in law.
This is my London, and my life, I’m proud to be a part of this beautiful multicultural city.
My Jewish friend Paul
The Romanian ground workers on our new site
The Spanish catholic lady (friend of mine) who’s just started working with us
Went to Friday prayers at the mosque
In the evening I went to the memorial service for my Hindu friends mum at a Hindu temple
Came home and my wife and daughter were sitting watching some pile of crap on Netflix with my very white very working class mother in law.
This is my London, and my life, I’m proud to be a part of this beautiful multicultural city.
Wait, so civilians aren't being killed in Gaza? Are they not starving either? What else have the UN been lying to us about!?
You can acknowledge the right for Israel to exist whilst also acknowledging the need to be more discriminate in the measures they are taking in Gaza. It's not the argument around a two state solution, it's the argument for "go and look in the civvy building, rather than bulldoze it".
I like this postepwc wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 7:48 am I don’t what kind of interactions calculon and ymx have with others but yesterday I interacted with (amongst others)
My Jewish friend Paul
The Romanian ground workers on our new site
The Spanish catholic lady (friend of mine) who’s just started working with us
Went to Friday prayers at the mosque
In the evening I went to the memorial service for my Hindu friends mum at a Hindu temple
Came home and my wife and daughter were sitting watching some pile of crap on Netflix with my very white very working class mother in law.
This is my London, and my life, I’m proud to be a part of this beautiful multicultural city.
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I've visited London twice, very brief stops both... but that singular multicultural vibrancy is a standout and something about living in Australia that I miss here in NZ. I think some people are just focussed on difference and get all hooked up on it. Perhaps it's fear and ignorance, it usually is, yeah?epwc wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 7:48 am I don’t what kind of interactions calculon and ymx have with others but yesterday I interacted with (amongst others)
My Jewish friend Paul
The Romanian ground workers on our new site
The Spanish catholic lady (friend of mine) who’s just started working with us
Went to Friday prayers at the mosque
In the evening I went to the memorial service for my Hindu friends mum at a Hindu temple
Came home and my wife and daughter were sitting watching some pile of crap on Netflix with my very white very working class mother in law.
This is my London, and my life, I’m proud to be a part of this beautiful multicultural city.