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salanya wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:56 pm So the man is 'hopeless' at his job (the Prime Minister's word), is recorded as lying in public office, used his position at a time of a pandemic to hand out contracts to companies in which he and/or his relatives had shares and made significant personal profits, and now he has promoted an old uni-friend to a well-paying position in his department, using the work environment to cheat on his wife with this person and has broken his own laws as Health Minister on social distancing.
That in a year in which over 128,000 of countrymen have died of the pandemic, thousands of people have been made redundant, businesses have had to close as they couldn't accommodate the lockdown closures/social distancing measures, and when hundreds of thousands (probably millions) of people weren't allowed to attend or hug at funerals, weddings etc.

If 'sorry' covers all of those sins, who does he have to kill to lose his job?!
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My, oh my - what a coincidence

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It's the comment section and not free to view but even the Torygraph happy to pitch in against Horny Hancock now

Hypocrisy is too small a word for Matt Hancock’s betrayal of the public’s trust
Those who govern us are drunk on absolute power, and it's made men like Hancock reckless

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/0 ... ics-trust/
I'm starting to think the senior Tories could be witnessed by a huge crowd sexually molesting babies and they still would shrug it off with an "apology"
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tabascoboy wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:42 am My, oh my - what a coincidence

The story should be the clear and obvious corruption in handing out contracts which has gone on for months anyway. Hancock and Coladangelo were good friends before she was paid to "challenge" him at department of health. Her brother had the contracts likely before any affair. The media just haven't paid the clear and obvious corruption the slightest bit of attention. I would say I wonder why but we know why don't we.

The affair bit is sad for the families involved. And also the security camera is dodgy as hell as the video shows it's clearly in his office. If he goes to the effort to be sure nobody is watching them surely he's unaware there's a camera watching?
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Slick wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:40 pm What a twat.

This evening there are few people in the world I’d rather not be than Hancock
To be fair there's a lot to be said for being able to be fucking hopeless at everything while still getting paid huge amounts and apparently being a chick magnet, while seemingly being immune to shame
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Slick wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:41 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:34 pm
tabascoboy wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:42 am He could hardly do otherwise, but a chief scientist (Ferguson?) was sacked or forced to step down for the same IIRC

This presumably will now have Ferguson, hot footing, his way to his lawyers; to lodge a case for unfair dismissal; now that the Bumblecunt has re-written the rules.

Since when is a manager screwing an employee a; "personal matter" ?

Every company I've ever worked in; it was a dismissal offense; & in my last one; it cost the CEO his job; & that was a Fortune 100 company.

And all of that is without asking if serious misconduct was what got the employee hired for the job.
I used to work for a company where it was positively encouraged! My wife and I were number 98 marriage from the company, I think it’s now over 120
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I like neeps wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:48 am
tabascoboy wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:42 am My, oh my - what a coincidence

The story should be the clear and obvious corruption in handing out contracts which has gone on for months anyway. Hancock and Coladangelo were good friends before she was paid to "challenge" him at department of health. Her brother had the contracts likely before any affair. The media just haven't paid the clear and obvious corruption the slightest bit of attention. I would say I wonder why but we know why don't we.

The affair bit is sad for the families involved. And also the security camera is dodgy as hell as the video shows it's clearly in his office. If he goes to the effort to be sure nobody is watching them surely he's unaware there's a camera watching?
No doubt it will be shrugged off with a comment about the expected behaviour of politicians.
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My SIL went to uni with him. Not wise to post his opinion!
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And he’s gone

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I imagine this is to over-shadow the apparent corruption of awarding NHS contracts to his piece on the side's relative.

Though it's not like contracts for donors has led to anything...
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Says so much about Boris too, standing by him, and saying the matter was closed. Looks even more of a dolt now.
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What are the odds that the Sundays gave him a heads up on stories in tomorrows copies ?
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One has to wonder exactly how a Murdoch paper got hold of CCTV footage from a Cabinet Minister's office at so precise a moment and at such a fortuitous time to release it.
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fishfoodie wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:44 pm What are the odds that the Sundays gave him a heads up on stories in tomorrows copies ?
Apparently tomorrow's Sunday Times will say that Matt Hancock is facing an investigation after using his personal email account instead of an official one during the pandemic - meaning the government don’t hold many records of his PPE contract dealings, and that his mistress accompanied him to a G7 summit at the taxpayers' expense.

While it is good to see him go, he is being replaced by Sajid Javid. It is difficult to imagine someone worse suited to the position of Health Secretary than the Ayn Rand nutter (apart from perhaps Gove).
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Pleased that the weasel has gone - hopefully all his dodgy dealings will be published, and the cronyism will finally get some proper coverage (I'd like it to be pursued and the nasty arses profiting it from it being held to account, but I know that is very wishful thinking).


Wasn't Javid the one who made this big moral stand of not working under Boris, or was that only the case whilst he thought Boris would get himself kicked out of Downing Street sooner rather than later?
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salanya wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:46 pm Pleased that the weasel has gone - hopefully all his dodgy dealings will be published, and the cronyism will finally get some proper coverage (I'd like it to be pursued and the nasty arses profiting it from it being held to account, but I know that is very wishful thinking).


Wasn't Javid the one who made this big moral stand of not working under Boris, or was that only the case whilst he thought Boris would get himself kicked out of Downing Street sooner rather than later?
No, he was happy to work with Boris. The problem was that Cummings wanted to dismiss all the Treasury SPADS and advisors, and have them replaced by his own appointees. Javid said no self-respecting Minister would continue under those conditions and so he resigned. As Cummings is no longer pulling Bojo’s strings, presumably Javid will be able to appoint his own team at the DoH.
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Lobby wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:07 pm
salanya wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:46 pm Pleased that the weasel has gone - hopefully all his dodgy dealings will be published, and the cronyism will finally get some proper coverage (I'd like it to be pursued and the nasty arses profiting it from it being held to account, but I know that is very wishful thinking).


Wasn't Javid the one who made this big moral stand of not working under Boris, or was that only the case whilst he thought Boris would get himself kicked out of Downing Street sooner rather than later?
No, he was happy to work with Boris. The problem was that Cummings wanted to dismiss all the Treasury SPADS and advisors, and have them replaced by his own appointees. Javid said no self-respecting Minister would continue under those conditions and so he resigned. As Cummings is no longer pulling Bojo’s strings, presumably Javid will be able to appoint his own team at the DoH.
Thanks for the answer, remember it now.
Though I'd have more respect for him if he didn't want to work under Boris either. Too much to expect from career politicians I guess.
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Quiet the thread
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Wait, the BBC are reflecting on Hancock's 'career and achievements' as Health Secretary?

FUCK OFF!!!!!!! :mad:

Followed by a list of all the vaccination successes. Is the BBC just becoming a propaganda machine?
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salanya wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:48 pm Wait, the BBC are reflecting on Hancock's 'career and achievements' as Health Secretary?

FUCK OFF!!!!!!! :mad:

Followed by a list of all the vaccination successes. Is the BBC just becoming a propaganda machine?
Becoming?
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JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:00 pm
salanya wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:48 pm Wait, the BBC are reflecting on Hancock's 'career and achievements' as Health Secretary?

FUCK OFF!!!!!!! :mad:

Followed by a list of all the vaccination successes. Is the BBC just becoming a propaganda machine?
Becoming?
I see your point, but there is a difference between generally following the director's bias, and purely functioning as the government's mouthpiece.
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salanya wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:07 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:00 pm
salanya wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:48 pm Wait, the BBC are reflecting on Hancock's 'career and achievements' as Health Secretary?

FUCK OFF!!!!!!! :mad:

Followed by a list of all the vaccination successes. Is the BBC just becoming a propaganda machine?
Becoming?
I see your point, but there is a difference between generally following the director's bias, and purely functioning as the government's mouthpiece.
Anyone you ever see on camera, on the Beeb, is shitting themselves that the Tories will follow thru on their threats against the Beeb; & cuts to the license fee.

The Tories don't care that the Beeb is probably the greatest example of UK soft power; or the entity that any other Country would give their left testicle, for an equivalent, in their own Country.
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salanya wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:07 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:00 pm
salanya wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:48 pm Wait, the BBC are reflecting on Hancock's 'career and achievements' as Health Secretary?

FUCK OFF!!!!!!! :mad:

Followed by a list of all the vaccination successes. Is the BBC just becoming a propaganda machine?
Becoming?
I see your point, but there is a difference between generally following the director's bias, and purely functioning as the government's mouthpiece.
They've been acting as the government's mouthpiece quite regularly for at least the last two years, honestly. A lot of that has been via Kuenssberg but there's been a reasonable amount of bizarre reframing of stories on the BBC. For example the accusation that the Boris said he'd rather let the bodies pile high than have another lockdown - the BBC instead suggested he said "the bodies might pile high" at some point, a completely different emphasis.

The BBC are stuck between running scared of a hostile government and having a hardcore pro-tory board.
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fishfoodie wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:19 pm
salanya wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:07 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:00 pm

Becoming?
I see your point, but there is a difference between generally following the director's bias, and purely functioning as the government's mouthpiece.
Anyone you ever see on camera, on the Beeb, is shitting themselves that the Tories will follow thru on their threats against the Beeb; & cuts to the license fee.

The Tories don't care that the Beeb is probably the greatest example of UK soft power; or the entity that any other Country would give their left testicle, for an equivalent, in their own Country.
This!

It's quite extraordinary to see the hatred directed at a broadcaster which is generally held in pretty high regard and trusted across the World.

You can't buy that sort of reputation, but the idiots want to cut it down.

Reminds me a lot of the head of steam driving Brexit.
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Today was the first time the BBC acknowledged the protests in London, which have been happening for months.

And they only labelled them as protests, naming the different protest causes, though we can be sure that the anti-lockdown protests will have been the largest.

I don't agree with the anti-lockdown protests, especially a few months ago when the situation wasn't looking great, but that doesn't mean you can just ignore it. I only know about it because the Dutch public news has been broadcasting it.
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Rinkals wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:27 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:19 pm
salanya wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:07 pm

I see your point, but there is a difference between generally following the director's bias, and purely functioning as the government's mouthpiece.
Anyone you ever see on camera, on the Beeb, is shitting themselves that the Tories will follow thru on their threats against the Beeb; & cuts to the license fee.

The Tories don't care that the Beeb is probably the greatest example of UK soft power; or the entity that any other Country would give their left testicle, for an equivalent, in their own Country.
This!

It's quite extraordinary to see the hatred directed at a broadcaster which is generally held in pretty high regard and trusted across the World.

You can't buy that sort of reputation, but the idiots want to cut it down.

Reminds me a lot of the head of steam driving Brexit.
and I can sum up what the Tories despise about the Been in one word.


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Honesty !

I remember during the Falklands the Tories were apoplectic; that the Beeb used language like; "if we believe the UK Government & there's no evidence that they're not telling the truth"; when they reported on the various claims; & counter claims around aircraft shot down etc.

I think that was the point that the Tories decided that it was disloyal; because it didn't mindlessly parrot whatever came out in press releases.
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JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:05 am
Slick wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:40 pm What a twat.

This evening there are few people in the world I’d rather not be than Hancock
To be fair there's a lot to be said for being able to be fucking hopeless at everything while still getting paid huge amounts and apparently being a chick magnet, while seemingly being immune to shame
:lol: It’s the dream I guess
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salanya wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:00 pm
Lobby wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:07 pm
salanya wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:46 pm Pleased that the weasel has gone - hopefully all his dodgy dealings will be published, and the cronyism will finally get some proper coverage (I'd like it to be pursued and the nasty arses profiting it from it being held to account, but I know that is very wishful thinking).


Wasn't Javid the one who made this big moral stand of not working under Boris, or was that only the case whilst he thought Boris would get himself kicked out of Downing Street sooner rather than later?
No, he was happy to work with Boris. The problem was that Cummings wanted to dismiss all the Treasury SPADS and advisors, and have them replaced by his own appointees. Javid said no self-respecting Minister would continue under those conditions and so he resigned. As Cummings is no longer pulling Bojo’s strings, presumably Javid will be able to appoint his own team at the DoH.
Thanks for the answer, remember it now.
Though I'd have more respect for him if he didn't want to work under Boris either. Too much to expect from career politicians I guess.
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That tweet reads like every conspiracy theorist on Twitter's mad ramblings about contrails and 5G
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Is that seriously not a fake tweet?
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Ymx wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:28 am Is that seriously not a fake tweet?
Nope, not unless his Twitter account has been hacked.
Sajid and the Princess have been good friends for years.
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Cummings painting himself as the only good thing in the government is a bit much.
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ScarfaceClaw wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:45 am Cummings painting himself as the only good thing in the government is a bit much.
Oh no, it's not that - it's Cumming painting himself and his mates (Sunak, Raab, etc) as the only good things...
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What's the deal with Michael Gove? Suggestions are that all the London journos are aware of a story about his personal circumstances that prevented him getting Hancock's job.
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robmatic wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 11:29 am What's the deal with Michael Gove? Suggestions are that all the London journos are aware of a story about his personal circumstances that prevented him getting Hancock's job.
Wouldn't be surprising - Gove is Murdoch's main man. Rupert didn't become so influencial politically by not knowing everyone's pain points. Including knowing someone who might know someone who might own an axe which might end up in a private listing investigator who used to sleuth for news of the world.
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robmatic wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 11:29 am What's the deal with Michael Gove? Suggestions are that all the London journos are aware of a story about his personal circumstances that prevented him getting Hancock's job.
I think he and Mrs Gove are experiencing some "marital difficulties". According to and Private Eye and Paul Waugh in Huff Post all is not well in the Gove household
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Sunday Times out for more Hancock blood
Since March last year the former health secretary has routinely used a private account to conduct government business, concealing information from his own officials and potentially the public, according to documents obtained by The Sunday Times.
It means that the government does not hold records of much of Hancock’s decision-making, including negotiating multimillion-pound PPE contracts, setting up the £37 billion test and trace programme and overseeing the government’s care homes strategy.
The minutes record that David Williams, the department’s second permanent secretary, had warned about Hancock’s conduct, saying that he “only” deals with his private office “via Gmail account”. He stated that “the SOS [secretary of state] does not have a DHSC inbox” ...
Since the meeting, Hancock has been given an official email account, although two Whitehall sources said that he still preferred to use Gmail. This is considered to be a less traceable form of communication.
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SaintK wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 11:50 am Sunday Times out for more Hancock blood
Since March last year the former health secretary has routinely used a private account to conduct government business, concealing information from his own officials and potentially the public, according to documents obtained by The Sunday Times.
It means that the government does not hold records of much of Hancock’s decision-making, including negotiating multimillion-pound PPE contracts, setting up the £37 billion test and trace programme and overseeing the government’s care homes strategy.
The minutes record that David Williams, the department’s second permanent secretary, had warned about Hancock’s conduct, saying that he “only” deals with his private office “via Gmail account”. He stated that “the SOS [secretary of state] does not have a DHSC inbox” ...
Since the meeting, Hancock has been given an official email account, although two Whitehall sources said that he still preferred to use Gmail. This is considered to be a less traceable form of communication.
Learnt nothing from Hilary Clinton’s difficulties then.
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