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4 scrummies?

No Dweba
No Am

No Pollard

How unfortunate is Am's injury?? In a nothing match. Out of RWC. Fark.

1. Van Staden
2. Wiese
3. Esterhuizen
4. Orie
5. Snyman
6. Kleyn
7. Moodie
8. Koch
9. Ox
10. Smith
11. Faf
12. Kolbe
13. Libbok
14. Willemse
15, Mapimpi
16. Kriel
17. Hendrikse
18. Deon Fourie
19. Arendse
20. Williams
21. Reinach
22. Malherbe
23. Mbonambi
24. Marx
25. Nyakane
26. Pieter-Steph du Toit
27. De Allende
28. Kitshoff
29. Mostert
30. Le Roux
31. Vermeulen
32. Etzebeth
33. Kolisi

... 4 scrumhalfs!

No Lood

Faf to play 10?

Chilli wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:20 pm The players have to bow down before Alexander as if he is some kind of a God.

He is the king of SA rugby.

Four scrumhalves is a bit much, but at least Herschel isn't there. I feel sorry for him, but he's way out of form.

Lood got Chinese lung poisoning boet.

No Thomas Du Toit

Four scrumhalves, but one specialist flyhalf

Also, no Tank Sir Ox?

Chilli wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:38 pm No Thomas Du Toit

Oof, I had my post ready to go for Mnr. Joe. Oh well.

I called that Dweba wouldn't go and they would take Deon Fourie as the 3rd choice hooker and backrow.

average joe wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:40 pm Also, no Tank Sir Ox?

You will hear from me when a prop gets injured Mnr.Joe.

Chilli wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:38 pm No Thomas Du Toit

It's a fair call. We're so blessed with props. Although Trevor can probably consider himself a bit lucky.

Dweba is a fringe project player. Not ready yet, he was never going to make this WC.

Players on standby:

Am
Dweba
Lood
JLdP
du Toit
Jantjies
Pollard
Roos
Steenkamp

There's a good chance at least half of that list will end up in France.

_Os_ wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:41 pm

average joe wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:40 pm Also, no Tank Sir Ox?

You will hear from me when a prop gets injured Mnr.Joe.

You'll do well to heed my advice.

The black bull is there. We don't need anyone ells.

We've still got to play Wales and New Zealand before the WC even starts.

Organised into how I think they'll be used. There must be a lot of backs they're thinking of using in new positions. Four wings and four scrumhalfs, doesn't work if they're all used in those positions only. Guessing Moodie is covering more than wing, but cannot guess on the others, Kolbe maybe because he has played 15.

Loosehead: Kitshoff, Ox Nche
Hooker: Marx, Mbonambi
Tighthead: Malherbe, Koch
Utility prop: Nyakane
4 Lock: Etzebeth, Snyman
5 Lock: Orie, Kleyn
Openside: Kolisi (captain), Van Staden
Eightman: Vermeulen, Wiese
Blindside: Pieter-Steph du Toit
Utility forward: Mostert (5 lock/blindside), Deon Fourie (hooker/backrow), Smith (backrow)
Scrumhalf: Faf, Hendrikse, Reinach, Williams
Flyhalf: Libbok
Wing: Mapimpi, Kolbe, Arendse
Inside centre: De Allende, Esterhuizen
Outside centre: Kriel
Fullback: Le Roux
Utility back: Willemse (flyhalf/fullback), Moodie (wing/13/15)

4 scrummies are 1 too many.

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:25 pmWazza in

Starting 12

assfly wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:43 pm Players on standby:

Am
Dweba
Lood
JLdP
du Toit
Jantjies
Pollard
Roos
Steenkamp

There's a good chance at least half of that list will end up in France.

So there's players on the injury standby list that are themselves injured?

I did say Rassie always keeps a monkey up his sleeve and to trust that monkey. But this all looks a bit mad!

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:04 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:25 pmWazza in

Starting 12

His best position, would be nice.

Thats all really bad. All of the sudden 2 of our most important players out. A crooked Kolisi on top.

average joe wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:09 pm

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:04 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:25 pmWazza in

Starting 12

His best position, would be nice.

I think so too, but they're not using him there. Flyhalf is where he's needed now.

As soon as any player gets injured Pollard is on the plane I reckon.

_Os_ wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:06 pm So there's players on the injury standby list that are themselves injured?

I did say Rassie always keeps a monkey up his sleeve and to trust that monkey. But this all looks a bit mad!

I don't understand that list either. Injured players can't be on standby.
And what the hell is Steenkamp doing on that list

_Os_ wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:06 pm

assfly wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:43 pm Players on standby:

Am
Dweba
Lood
JLdP
du Toit
Jantjies
Pollard
Roos
Steenkamp

There's a good chance at least half of that list will end up in France.

So there's players on the injury standby list that are themselves injured?

I did say Rassie always keeps a monkey up his sleeve and to trust that monkey. But this all looks a bit mad!

Is there a standby list for the standby list?

Those are simply the guys who missed out, no?!

assfly wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:43 pm Players on standby:

Am
Dweba
Lood
JLdP
du Toit
Jantjies
Pollard
Roos
Steenkamp

There's a good chance at least half of that list will end up in France.

How does that work? A player have to be declared medically unfit to play and sent home before we can call up a player on stand by?

boere wors wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:14 pm Those are simply the guys who missed out, no?!

That's the 9 man standby list some are travelling to Wales for the next match.

Pretty happy with that squad. Very glad for Libbok. He will give another edge to the Boks.

If Manie goes down then expect the Freestate's Ruan Pienaar to take over.

For me, drop a scrummie and take 1 of Johan Goosen or Robert du Preez. At least another option at flyhalf/fullback.

Chilli wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:47 pm If Manie goes down then expect the Freestate's Ruan Pienaar to take over.

or Curwin Bosch.

I'm guessing this is the 23 they're looking at. Went with a 5/3 bench, but the selections make 6/2 look more likely. There's only 6 backs selected not playing scrumhalf or wing (and even Kriel can play wing, so it's really 5). This makes Libbok/Le Roux/Willemse/Kriel nailed on for the 23, then they decide if they take Esterhuizen or De Allende and if the loser goes to the bench (probably not, as they're not utility players), then there's the other 8 backs covering scrumhalf and wing.

Even for opposed training 14 backs means two backlines of 7, which means the second choice backline in training will have some odd picks at 10/13/15. Can totally see news reports about Moodie playing 13 or 15.

Loosehead: Kitshoff
Hooker: Marx
Tighthead: Malherbe
4 Lock: Etzebeth
5 Lock: Mostert
Openside: Kolisi (captain)
Eightman: Vermeulen
Blindside: Pieter-Steph du Toit
Scrumhalf: Faf
Flyhalf: Libbok
Left wing: Mapimpi/Arendse
Inside centre: De Allende/Esterhuizen
Outside centre: Kriel
Right wing: Kolbe
Fullback: Le Roux

Mbonambi
Ox Nche
Koch
Snyman
Smith/Deon Fourie/Van Staden/Wiese
Hendrikse
Willemse
Moodie

_Os_ wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:57 pm
4 Lock: Etzebeth
5 Lock: Mostert

Bench:
Lock: Snyman

That's a ludicrous selection. I don't care how similar Snyman is to Etsebeth, he should NOT be benched behind Mostert.
Rather pick a different lock on the bench (e.g. Orie if he loses 10kg) and if we really have to have Sous somewhere, then he's a bench blindside. Maybe.

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:38 pm Pretty happy with that squad. Very glad for Libbok. He will give another edge to the Boks.

Took you a long while to warm up to the Sharks poach.