NPR

Posted: **Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:31 am**

Saint wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:09 pm
Line6 HXFX wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:59 pm When the people in the bottom flat decide that want to stick a camera in their window, that inadvertantly films people coming in and out of the building.

You write them a polite nice letter (you don't want to get the landlord involved), telling them you are a carer and you do not give them your consent, as the safety and security of the people you look after is being placed in jeopardy, and because I don't want to be filmed six times a day coming and going into my home.....and don't want people to know when I am away from the vulnerable people I take care of, or out of my flat, I'm weird?

Tempted to buy a camera and stick it on the wall, in the corridor, directed at their front door. See how they like it.

We can all have fun with gaw'damned cameras.
They have a GDPR compliance issue. They need to show that they're not storing recordings of you entering or leaving if you've requested otherwise

Correct, the use of personal CCTV and video surveillance cameras is exempt from the requirements of GDPR and DPA only if they only capture images within the boundary of a person’s private domestic property (including the garden).

If images are captured of people outside the boundary of their private domestic property (e.g. a neighbour’s home or garden, shared/communal spaces or public streets) then they must comply with the GDPR and DPA in the use of the system and the personal data collected.

The ICO has published guidance on its website (Domestic CCTV systems – guidance for people using CCTV) which sets out the requirements:

Let people know you are using CCTV by putting up signs saying that recording is taking place, and why.
Ensure you don’t capture more footage than you need to achieve your purpose in using the system.
Ensure the security of the footage you capture – in other words, holding it securely and making sure nobody can watch it without good reason.
Only keep the footage for as long as you need it – delete it regularly, and when it is no longer needed.
Ensure the CCTV system is only operated in ways you intend and can’t be misused for other reasons. Anyone you share your property with, such as family members who could use the equipment, needs to know the importance of not misusing it.

Refry could also give them a subject access request, either verbally or in writing, and they would have to give him copies of all the personal data (images) they have of him, and must do so within a month.

If they fail to meet their GDPR and DPA obligations, they could be fined by the ICO.

Posted: **Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:02 am**

ScarfaceClaw wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:28 pm
Sandstorm wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:49 pm
Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:25 pm email Subject: lap top key board
No subject line is much, much worse.
Fw: Re:

Posted: **Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:44 am**

Saint wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:09 pm They have a GDPR compliance issue. They need to show that they're not storing recordings of you entering or leaving if you've requested otherwise

GDPR is about Companies processing personal information, it does not govern individuals.

This Regulation does not apply to the processing of personal data:

...by a natural person in the course of a purely personal or household activity;

Posted: **Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:24 am**

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:44 am
Saint wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:09 pm They have a GDPR compliance issue. They need to show that they're not storing recordings of you entering or leaving if you've requested otherwise

GDPR is about Companies processing personal information, it does not govern individuals.

This Regulation does not apply to the processing of personal data:

...by a natural person in the course of a purely personal or household activity;

ICO says otherwise - https://ico.org.uk/your-data-matters/do ... sing-cctv/

There are many domestic CCTV systems on the market to help you protect your home. If you’re thinking of using one, you need to make sure you do so in a way that respects other people’s privacy.

If you set up your system so it captures only images within the boundary of your private domestic property (including your garden), then the data protection laws will not apply to you.

But what if your system captures images of people outside the boundary of your private domestic property – for example, in neighbours’ homes or gardens, shared spaces, or on a public footpath or a street?

Then the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) and the Data Protection Act 2018 (DPA18) will apply to you, and you will need to ensure your use of CCTV complies with these laws. This guidance refers to them as the ‘data protection laws’.

Regardless of whether or not your use of CCTV falls within the data protection laws, the ICO recommends you use it responsibly to protect the privacy of others.

Posted: **Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:38 am**

Its interesting, that the laws about filming people in public are essentially about not having to ask everyone in the background of a photo you took in Disneyland for permission, but is now translated to "it is ok to stick a static camera and film everyone outside your property, and film people going in an out of their homes".

.went on a bit of a rant here, just fed up..deleted said rant.

Posted: **Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:48 am**

Line6 HXFX wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:38 am Its interesting, that the laws about filming people in public are essentially about not having to ask everyone in the background of a photo you took in Disneyland for permission, but is now translated to "it is ok to stick a static camera and film everyone outside your property, and film people going in an out of their homes".

Just one camera can completely change peoples behaviour, where I have to turn right instead of going left and go a mile or so out of my way..and the long way around if I don't want to be spied on and have my day to day behaviour monitored.

Feel sorry for the bloke upstairs who is seriously ill, on the sick and is withering away, poor bastard has nerve damage in his back that is stopping nutrients going to his bottom half..but who used to like to try to help with the bins if he was feeling up to it.. as he thought he was doing a little bit to help here. Feel part of the community.
He felt just slightly less than useless for 20 minutes every week. Stuff like that is important to people.
Now he has a camera in his face, so doesn't do it anymore.
It is just the general "this is what I think I will bring to my neighbourhood, I won't help with the bins, but be completely fucking ignorant...not get to know people, but judge them anyway,..and to top it off will shove a camera in everyones face, and if they don't like it tough titty".

The tides of selfishness, creeping fascist fuck'wittery, miserabalism, snobbishness, self serving contempt and meanspiritedness are just super high right now.

There is no right to privacy in public, its fairly simple

Posted: **Wed Mar 03, 2021 6:15 pm**

Didn’t realise everyone in Wakes liked to sneak around without anyone seeing them. But like crims....

Posted: **Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:40 pm**

Enzedder wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:25 pm Two posts totally opposed.

I reckon OS is wrong (that stance has carried me far

you are entitled to film public spaces.

Posted: **Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:47 pm**

Line6 HXFX wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:38 am Its interesting, that the laws about filming people in public are essentially about not having to ask everyone in the background of a photo you took in Disneyland for permission, but is now translated to "it is ok to stick a static camera and film everyone outside your property, and film people going in an out of their homes".

Just one camera can completely change peoples behaviour, where I have to turn right instead of going left and go a mile or so out of my way..and the long way around if I don't want to be spied on and have my day to day behaviour monitored.

Feel sorry for the bloke upstairs who is seriously ill, on the sick and is withering away, poor bastard has nerve damage in his back that is stopping nutrients going to his bottom half..but who used to like to try to help with the bins if he was feeling up to it.. as he thought he was doing a little bit to help here. Feel part of the community.
He felt just slightly less than useless for 20 minutes every week. Stuff like that is important to people.
Now he has a camera in his face, so doesn't do it anymore.
It is just the general "this is what I think I will bring to my neighbourhood, I won't help with the bins, but be completely fucking ignorant...not get to know people, but judge them anyway,..and to top it off will shove a camera in everyones face, and if they don't like it tough titty".

The tides of selfishness, creeping fascist fuck'wittery, miserabalism, snobbishness, self serving contempt and meanspiritedness are just super high right now.

What is your vehement objection to being filmed.? I might even give a little wave if I was putting the bins out. as for the 1 mile detour to avoid being filmed for 2 seconds screams 'up to something dodgy' to me....

Posted: **Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:15 am**

Just dress up and wave when you go passed the camera Kermit

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Posted: **Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:25 am**

Bit loose and emotional yesterday, and lately. Gawdamned lockdown is stressing me out.

Revealed some stuff I probably regret putting in the public domain.

Really pissed off, angry and frustrated about the cameras and didn't wear it very well.

Anyway all good now had another word and they agreed to turn it around during the day and point it away until after 5 pm.
A nice compromise I can live with.

Need to tighten up my loose emotional shit.
Remind myself no one f'king cares etc.
Have a nice day all..

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:30 pm**

British Gas

leaving for another supplier - currently on fixed. ending this month.

Minor annoyance. Have to give final meter reading despite having smart meters.

First "Bill", I owe them ~£450, even after just last month paying in an extra £70 to cover more elec being used at home with kids etc per their own calculations.
Oh, no that's for the last 3 or 6 months, it's still being calculated, they've not taken into account any of my payments for the last 3-6 months.

4 days ago I get emailed final energy statement - "Nothing to pay, it says. They actually owe me ~£25" - excellent!

Yesterday, get the same email, same final bill with the same date on it - 6 March, but now I owe them £181.90? Also included 2x early exit fees of £30. despite Ofgem rule clearing stating that exit fees don't any for the last 49 days of fixed contract.

Anyhow, time to call up and get this sorted out, 25 mins in the queue, "Good morning can I have you account number please?" "Yes, sure, it's 851...." CLICK! Disconnected.
Call back, in the queue, 22 minutes this time, then it starts to ring, but I get voicemail msg and another CLICK disconnect.

Fuck em. DD cancelled. they want any more money from me, they can call me and I'll hang-up a few times too half way through the call...

Posted: **Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:51 pm**

Windows 10

More and more bloatware.

PC now says my version of Windows is coming to end of life as of May 2021

Great, except the next version is not yet "ready" for my PC

Posted: **Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:53 pm**

Line6 HXFX wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:25 am Bit loose and emotional yesterday, and lately. Gawdamned lockdown is stressing me out.

Revealed some stuff I probably regret putting in the public domain.

Really pissed off, angry and frustrated about the cameras and didn't wear it very well.

Anyway all good now had another word and they agreed to turn it around during the day and point it away until after 5 pm.
A nice compromise I can live with.

Need to tighten up my loose emotional shit.
Remind myself no one f'king cares etc.
Have a nice day all..

Try Ex lax.

Posted: **Fri Mar 12, 2021 8:10 pm**

Glaston wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:51 pm Windows 10

More and more bloatware.

PC now says my version of Windows is coming to end of life as of May 2021

Great, except the next version is not yet "ready" for my PC

There is a solution.

Posted: **Fri Mar 12, 2021 8:21 pm**

When sports commentators use plurals of surnames like Monye has just done - " your Kibiriges, Bassetts, Nadolos" - no, Ugo, there's only one of each ffs.

Posted: **Fri Mar 12, 2021 8:29 pm**

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:30 pm British Gas

leaving for another supplier - currently on fixed. ending this month.

Minor annoyance. Have to give final meter reading despite having smart meters.

First "Bill", I owe them ~£450, even after just last month paying in an extra £70 to cover more elec being used at home with kids etc per their own calculations.
Oh, no that's for the last 3 or 6 months, it's still being calculated, they've not taken into account any of my payments for the last 3-6 months.

4 days ago I get emailed final energy statement - "Nothing to pay, it says. They actually owe me ~£25" - excellent!

Yesterday, get the same email, same final bill with the same date on it - 6 March, but now I owe them £181.90? Also included 2x early exit fees of £30. despite Ofgem rule clearing stating that exit fees don't any for the last 49 days of fixed contract.

Anyhow, time to call up and get this sorted out, 25 mins in the queue, "Good morning can I have you account number please?" "Yes, sure, it's 851...." CLICK! Disconnected.
Call back, in the queue, 22 minutes this time, then it starts to ring, but I get voicemail msg and another CLICK disconnect.

Fuck em. DD cancelled. they want any more money from me, they can call me and I'll hang-up a few times too half way through the call...

No-one cares bro.

Posted: **Fri Mar 12, 2021 9:04 pm**

Glaston wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:51 pm Windows 10

More and more bloatware.

PC now says my version of Windows is coming to end of life as of May 2021

Great, except the next version is not yet "ready" for my PC

Got that today, clicked download and let it do its thing, its a 2 hour process so be warned

Posted: **Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:19 pm**

That the British Museum still won't return the Elgin Marbles !

.... and I remember someone pointing out, in a documentary, the chin/beard of the sphinx, propped up against a wall in a storeroom in the same establishment.

Tip for our English friends; if you want to do trade deals with countries; don't proclaim your right to keep historical artifacts, that you've looted from them.

Posted: **Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:41 pm**

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:19 pm That the British Museum still won't return the Elgin Marbles !

.... and I remember someone pointing out, in a documentary, the chin/beard of the sphinx, propped up against a wall in a storeroom in the same establishment.

Tip for our English friends; if you want to do trade deals with countries; don't proclaim your right to keep historical artifacts, that you've looted from them.

I would love to take your advice on board but I have never proclaimed any rights to historical artefacts and I don't know anyone else who has of any nationality.

Posted: **Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:18 pm**

notfatcat wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:41 pm
fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:19 pm That the British Museum still won't return the Elgin Marbles !

.... and I remember someone pointing out, in a documentary, the chin/beard of the sphinx, propped up against a wall in a storeroom in the same establishment.

Tip for our English friends; if you want to do trade deals with countries; don't proclaim your right to keep historical artifacts, that you've looted from them.
I would love to take your advice on board but I have never proclaimed any rights to historical artefacts and I don't know anyone else who has of any nationality.

But when your Government does; so do you; because you voted these arseholes in !

https://news.sky.com/story/pm-wont-retu ... e-12244021

Posted: **Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:35 pm**

Fair enough then, it's my fault. Try not to let it bother you though cos I'm going to do fuck all about it.

Posted: **Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:41 pm**

notfatcat wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:35 pm Fair enough then, it's my fault. Try not to let it bother you though cos I'm going to do fuck all about it.

Well as long as you don't complain, in the future, about how unfairly these countries; & the endless others, who've been looted; are treating the UK .....

Maybe the British should ask themselves; why it is; that the British Museum has so many exhibits, that are nothing to do with Britain ?

... or they could just rename it; the Imperial Booty Museum; & be honest about how it's contents were gathered.

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:07 am**

If ever I feel compelled to complain about it in the future I will hopefully remember this exchange, then take a deep breath and consider how petty and pointless complaining can be sometimes.

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:39 am**

notfatcat wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:07 am If ever I feel compelled to complain about it in the future I will hopefully remember this exchange, then take a deep breath and consider how petty and pointless complaining can be sometimes.

It's not a personal thing; but rather my rant against "Nationalism", which should never be confused with "Patriotism". Patriotism is not defending the indefensible; that's Nationalism; & pretending that the best place for the Elgin Marbles to be shown, isn't in Greece, is indefensible.

There are ways that Museums can collaborate, & share & exchange artifacts; & pretending that the Elgin Marbles; or numerous other artifacts in the possession of the British Museum, are there thru legitimate means, rather than; looting, & theft; is offensive to anyone with a single functional brain cell.

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:37 am**

Trapper wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:04 pm I got a 3 piece box of KFC last night for the first time in 12 months. Inside was a tiny wing, a drumstick and an unidentified part of dirty bird. Yeah, that annoyed me.

KFC who sell half a chicken wing as a chicken wing. No idea of what an actual chicken wing is. Should be prosecuted under the misleading advertising act or whatever it is.

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:26 am**

When was Greece part of the British Empire?

Posted: **Sat Mar 20, 2021 6:53 pm**

Openside wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:47 pm
Line6 HXFX wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:38 am Its interesting, that the laws about filming people in public are essentially about not having to ask everyone in the background of a photo you took in Disneyland for permission, but is now translated to "it is ok to stick a static camera and film everyone outside your property, and film people going in an out of their homes".

Just one camera can completely change peoples behaviour, where I have to turn right instead of going left and go a mile or so out of my way..and the long way around if I don't want to be spied on and have my day to day behaviour monitored.

Feel sorry for the bloke upstairs who is seriously ill, on the sick and is withering away, poor bastard has nerve damage in his back that is stopping nutrients going to his bottom half..but who used to like to try to help with the bins if he was feeling up to it.. as he thought he was doing a little bit to help here. Feel part of the community.
He felt just slightly less than useless for 20 minutes every week. Stuff like that is important to people.
Now he has a camera in his face, so doesn't do it anymore.
It is just the general "this is what I think I will bring to my neighbourhood, I won't help with the bins, but be completely fucking ignorant...not get to know people, but judge them anyway,..and to top it off will shove a camera in everyones face, and if they don't like it tough titty".

The tides of selfishness, creeping fascist fuck'wittery, miserabalism, snobbishness, self serving contempt and meanspiritedness are just super high right now.
What is your vehement objection to being filmed.? I might even give a little wave if I was putting the bins out. as for the 1 mile detour to avoid being filmed for 2 seconds screams 'up to something dodgy' to me....

If you were ever responsible for a fair few peoples safety and security...and lived in place where your possessions are in danger..constantly, and where people filming you entering and leaving your property is a massive issue, you would be miffed too.
If I put a camera filming you going in and out your property, with you not knowing who the hell could stream it or watch it...how would you feel?
Bare in mind, someone tried to hack my Facebook password yesterday.

Posted: **Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:32 am**

Idiot bosses who don't turn up so you have to interview someone about a job without a PD.

Fucking embarrassing

Posted: **Sun Mar 21, 2021 1:09 am**

The Canadian housing market. Workmate is on the hunt so am following their ‘progress’. People are paying 150k above asking for modest small family homes.

Genuinely thinking the only way I’ll be able to have my ideal place in the country is to start a not-so-creepy-non-religious cult, get a bunch of people to sign on, get a nice chunk of land along a river or lake and we each build some small homes on it.

Or maybe I could become a rich cunt’s majordomo like Higgins from Magnum PI?

Posted: **Sun Mar 21, 2021 1:35 am**

The caterpillar ruck, and in particular today in the Wales game, the halfback walking past 3 players to then dribble the ball through their legs with his foot to the back. Makes no sense that he is allowed to do that

Posted: **Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:04 am**

Glaston wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:51 pm Windows 10

More and more bloatware.

PC now says my version of Windows is coming to end of life as of May 2021

Great, except the next version is not yet "ready" for my PC

Completely voks any laptop battery. My advertised battery length of 7 hours is down to 1.5 hours in 13 months. Funnily enough it happened just after their standard 1 year warranty ended

Posted: **Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:29 am**

Having an English pundit on the panel when England aren't involved in the game! Why was Gusgott in Edinburgh for the Scotland v Italy game and why was Johnson commenting on the Wales v France game?

Posted: **Sun Mar 21, 2021 1:14 pm**

dpedin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:29 am Having an English pundit on the panel when England aren't involved in the game! Why was Gusgott in Edinburgh for the Scotland v Italy game and why was Johnson commenting on the Wales v France game?

I like Johnson to be fair, thought he was great last night

Posted: **Sun Mar 21, 2021 1:35 pm**

Slick wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 1:14 pm
dpedin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:29 am Having an English pundit on the panel when England aren't involved in the game! Why was Gusgott in Edinburgh for the Scotland v Italy game and why was Johnson commenting on the Wales v France game?
I like Johnson to be fair, thought he was great last night

Never seen him laugh and joke so much. Good value

Posted: **Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:09 pm**

assfly wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 6:16 am People whose first disposition in life is to complain. The first words out of their mouths is a moan, to the point where you're scared to ask them how they are. In social gathering they do nothing but bitch and complain about everything and everything. A cloud of negativity just follows them around. Despite a seemingly nice life, they can only ever see the downside to everything and nothing is ever good enough.

Particularly when it is work relared. If the boss is that bad FIND ANOTHER JOB you dickhead!!!

Posted: **Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:47 am**

dpedin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:29 am Having an English pundit on the panel when England aren't involved in the game! Why was Gusgott in Edinburgh for the Scotland v Italy game and why was Johnson commenting on the Wales v France game?

Good call.

Last month (or the month before), I was following the Australia v. India cricket series and they had a female English commentator whose only qualification was the ability to enthuse endlessly about Joe Root and Ben Stokes.

Posted: **Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:07 pm**

Q: How much for 4 hour training session?

A: £745, please sign this 5 day work order for £ 6,705 and I'll get it booked.

Posted: **Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:13 pm**

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:07 pm Q: How much for 4 hour training session?

A: £745, please sign this 5 day work order for £ 6,705 and I'll get it booked.

WTF was that for?

Posted: **Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:21 pm**

Saint wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:13 pm
Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:07 pm Q: How much for 4 hour training session?

A: £745, please sign this 5 day work order for £ 6,705 and I'll get it booked.

WTF was that for?

A blanket work order from one of our suppliers, Deltek. all I want to do it book a 1/2 day Zoom course for 4 people. This apparently also requires a project manager @ £149 per/hour.

They're fucking mental.

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Back in simpler times, one would be sent a quote for £745 and I'd raise a PO against it and send it over...

Oh, and once I send over the signed blanket work order, then they'll look at getting it booked and will take 4-6 weeks.

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