Re: Women's Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 8:40 pm
French 7's Captain has retired
That made me giggle when you highlighted that.
This Rosie Galligan?eldanielfire wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 1:00 am Some moves. Emma Swords and Rosie Gallaghan have moved to Harlequins form Saracens. Seems a bit of a clear out from Sarries, though they have re-signed Poppy and others.
I actually think Gallaghan suits quins style and they can improve her. Interestingly she has been great mates with Jess Breech for a long while. Be interest as to how Swords does as Quins as well. Both rawer but great potential replacements for Ward and Riley. If Swords can work on her kicking game, because she's a potentially very good scrum half. Also Ellie Killdunne and Beth Blacklock has moved to Quins. Those are some big names.
Sarries have regained a few young talents from Loughborough though like Wasps they have lost some and gained some and it's hard to say if they are better or worse. Hard to say if it's teams identifying new talent they think will be better or if players are leaving for greener pastures. Also a few Japanese players entering the league.
Yep...you know my fav....despite the late night typos.....Niegs wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 1:20 amThis Rosie Galligan?eldanielfire wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 1:00 am Some moves. Emma Swords and Rosie Gallaghan have moved to Harlequins form Saracens. Seems a bit of a clear out from Sarries, though they have re-signed Poppy and others.
I actually think Gallaghan suits quins style and they can improve her. Interestingly she has been great mates with Jess Breech for a long while. Be interest as to how Swords does as Quins as well. Both rawer but great potential replacements for Ward and Riley. If Swords can work on her kicking game, because she's a potentially very good scrum half. Also Ellie Killdunne and Beth Blacklock has moved to Quins. Those are some big names.
Sarries have regained a few young talents from Loughborough though like Wasps they have lost some and gained some and it's hard to say if they are better or worse. Hard to say if it's teams identifying new talent they think will be better or if players are leaving for greener pastures. Also a few Japanese players entering the league.![]()
Killdunne wasn't always started for Wasps near the end of the season. There was some suggestion she was less preferred choice.Niegs wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:42 pm Seems like a good move for her. Kildunne, though, seems more like an unnecessary poach for a top-flight team. Wonder what the motivation was there (beyond being more likely to win a title)?
I assumed she was coming off an injury? Who's Wasps other FB?eldanielfire wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 1:23 pmKilldunne wasn't always started for Wasps near the end of the season. There was some suggestion she was less preferred choice.Niegs wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:42 pm Seems like a good move for her. Kildunne, though, seems more like an unnecessary poach for a top-flight team. Wonder what the motivation was there (beyond being more likely to win a title)?
They have both Rollie and Scott who can play there. I'm a bit perplexed as to why they are taking her, besides the fact if she's available you take her.
You might be right, but obviously Abby Dow is their alternative FB.Niegs wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 1:37 pmI assumed she was coming off an injury? Who's Wasps other FB?eldanielfire wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 1:23 pmKilldunne wasn't always started for Wasps near the end of the season. There was some suggestion she was less preferred choice.Niegs wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:42 pm Seems like a good move for her. Kildunne, though, seems more like an unnecessary poach for a top-flight team. Wonder what the motivation was there (beyond being more likely to win a title)?
They have both Rollie and Scott who can play there. I'm a bit perplexed as to why they are taking her, besides the fact if she's available you take her.
I was on a CPD course with a sarries player and her "old clubmates". The opinion is Saracens have really lost a lot of of bulk and girth in their pack. I think they may be rebuilding. But I can't quite understand why, it seems such a variety of pack players leave. Though a few have re-signed.Niegs wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:11 am I’ve heard one of our best, Sophie DeGoode, is returning to uni rather than Saracens. Seems an odd choice with the WRWC next year. Her uni was thrashing teams as well until nationals, there’ll be no rugby Nov- beyond. Why not just put school on hold?
The friend who told me used to coach another of our internationals and said she’s on a sportsperson visa with Worcester, which doesn’t allow you to work anywhere else. He wasn’t sure if / how much she got paid. So begs the question, are they? How much? Maybe London was too expensive for what DeGoode had/was getting?
Not sure ... just having a look at her uni's roster, she's in 4th year Commerce, so not like it's medicine or something like that. I wonder if she deferred for a year when Covid hit but feels she has to return or drop out? I dropped out of my final semester of a taught Master's when my money ran out - school was blunt about saying I'd have to re-apply, strongly suggesting not to leave, and that was a bit daunting, but truly had no $ so left. After a year working, they basically welcomed me back with the submission of an internal application, no biggie.eldanielfire wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:24 pmI was on a CPD course with a sarries player and her "old clubmates". The opinion is Saracens have really lost a lot of of bulk and girth in their pack. I think they may be rebuilding. But I can't quite understand why, it seems such a variety of pack players leave. Though a few have re-signed.Niegs wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:11 am I’ve heard one of our best, Sophie DeGoode, is returning to uni rather than Saracens. Seems an odd choice with the WRWC next year. Her uni was thrashing teams as well until nationals, there’ll be no rugby Nov- beyond. Why not just put school on hold?
The friend who told me used to coach another of our internationals and said she’s on a sportsperson visa with Worcester, which doesn’t allow you to work anywhere else. He wasn’t sure if / how much she got paid. So begs the question, are they? How much? Maybe London was too expensive for what DeGoode had/was getting?
On De Goode, she had a a really good season. Maybe it was always her plans, but like you I'd certainly think saying on and playing high quality rugby is the way forward in a RWC year. Especially with a core of Canadians in the league as well.
I recall an interview with Lottie Holland, who was about to leave Rugby after Hartpury for another life had Exeter Chiefs Women not be established. Basically she couldn't continue be a professional standard player, be away from home and have a career. Exeter being established was a career saver for her. It might be similar for her.
Kenya looking quite good at times with the ball in hand, both line-outs messy. Colombia looking like they were tiring badly in the last 10 minseldanielfire wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:06 pm Kenya vs Columbia live now:
I'm interested in seeing how Columbia play, on facebook you can see their games against Brazil a year or so back. They have a big scrum. At least vs Brazil.
Columbia took their chances. It's interesting to see that both sides have quote a lot of potential but clearly don't train or play to high levels. You see it a few times in rucks when both sides non-scrum half's tend to join the ruck, even if the ball is available for a quick pick and go and forwards don't quite set up in pods, especially where Columbians are concerned, to crash ball it.tabascoboy wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 1:35 pmKenya looking quite good at times with the ball in hand, both line-outs messy. Colombia looking like they were tiring badly in the last 10 minseldanielfire wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:06 pm Kenya vs Columbia live now:
I'm interested in seeing how Columbia play, on facebook you can see their games against Brazil a year or so back. They have a big scrum. At least vs Brazil.
Well Colombia did very well to hold on to a one point lead without ever looking like adding to it, a very good result away from home
Result: Kenya 15 - 16 Colombia
It's possible she expected to play the World Cup this year. Hence the move and obviously didn't have the ability to stay a year afterwards. Now the RWC was moved it scuppered her plan.Niegs wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 1:08 pmNot sure ... just having a look at her uni's roster, she's in 4th year Commerce, so not like it's medicine or something like that. I wonder if she deferred for a year when Covid hit but feels she has to return or drop out? I dropped out of my final semester of a taught Master's when my money ran out - school was blunt about saying I'd have to re-apply, strongly suggesting not to leave, and that was a bit daunting, but truly had no $ so left. After a year working, they basically welcomed me back with the submission of an internal application, no biggie.eldanielfire wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:24 pmI was on a CPD course with a sarries player and her "old clubmates". The opinion is Saracens have really lost a lot of of bulk and girth in their pack. I think they may be rebuilding. But I can't quite understand why, it seems such a variety of pack players leave. Though a few have re-signed.Niegs wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:11 am I’ve heard one of our best, Sophie DeGoode, is returning to uni rather than Saracens. Seems an odd choice with the WRWC next year. Her uni was thrashing teams as well until nationals, there’ll be no rugby Nov- beyond. Why not just put school on hold?
The friend who told me used to coach another of our internationals and said she’s on a sportsperson visa with Worcester, which doesn’t allow you to work anywhere else. He wasn’t sure if / how much she got paid. So begs the question, are they? How much? Maybe London was too expensive for what DeGoode had/was getting?
On De Goode, she had a a really good season. Maybe it was always her plans, but like you I'd certainly think saying on and playing high quality rugby is the way forward in a RWC year. Especially with a core of Canadians in the league as well.
I recall an interview with Lottie Holland, who was about to leave Rugby after Hartpury for another life had Exeter Chiefs Women not be established. Basically she couldn't continue be a professional standard player, be away from home and have a career. Exeter being established was a career saver for her. It might be similar for her.I hope she hasn't done it for that reason, because I've seen school admin unnecessarily be jerks about this sort of thing both as a student and working from the inside.
But which European team? I'd also wager that while the European teams play more frequently, outside the 6 Nations the likes of Scotland and Wales don't even always play tests for the rest of the year and certainly most of the "resources" is Unions encouraging their players to get into the English league. Something Ireland seem to be doing more and more of.tabascoboy wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 1:55 pm I didn't hear who Colombia will meet in the repechage, I know it will have teams from Europe, Asia and Oceania in the tournament but not sure if those have been decided yet. I think the games might not yet have been played and COVID's messed up the scheduling so much. The Worldrugby site isn't great when you just want to find quick facts...
Ah, Samoa are one of the teams.
And Wiki comes to the rescue:
Europe 13 - 25 Sept ( Spain, Ireland, Scotland, Italy )
Asia: 2 - 12 October ( Japan, Kazakhstan, Hong Kong )
Think it would be a big surprise if the European runners-up don't win the repechage, with their resources and regular competition.
Forever the cynic, I doubt it. They recently played a match against each other, those with caps wanting to continue and those who were identified at Western and Eastern Canada selection camps... and the rugby was god-awful! Not only was it forward-dominated pod crashing, but they also didn't often get anywhere because they couldn't retain possession and a lot of the passes, even from scrum halves, weren't going to hand. I could say that a lot of the players would be unfamiliar to each other, but they've also been in camp all week and are meant to be the most talented we have, so passes should be on point at least.eldanielfire wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 1:53 pm
It will be interesting to see if with so many players in the English league for the USA and Canada how they improve. Canada were pulling behind this past half decade and the USA weren't a bit behind them. Both are potential threats to the big 3. I do wonder if the knowledge and level of play they take back to North America will be shared and filter through?
sturginho wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:51 pm Italy's matches against Scotland, Ireland and Spain will be shown on RaiSport which as far as I know is an absolute first for women's rugby![]()
Today it's Italy vs Scotland at 3pm local time (2pm UK) and Spain vs Ireland at 6pm local.eldanielfire wrote: Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:25 pmsturginho wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:51 pm Italy's matches against Scotland, Ireland and Spain will be shown on RaiSport which as far as I know is an absolute first for women's rugby![]()
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Good score for Italy.sturginho wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 1:54 pm Italy are leading 26-6 at half time, I didnt get to see the first half as I was in a meeting :(
I did see Arrighetti's try at the end of the half though, lovely line break and then she thought about trying to run around the covering defender, but then changed her mind and ran over her![]()
IRFU and Leinster apologise for temporary facilities beside bins at women’s interpros
Videos show temporary tents set up beside bins with reports of rats around the area
The IRFU and Leinster Rugby have apologised for the state of the changing facilities provided for the Leinster and Connacht women’s teams in Donnybrook on Saturday.
The final round of the Women’s Interprovincial series took place at Energia Park at the weekend but complaints were made about the facilities provided with videos on social media showing the temporary changing rooms - which appear to be just a small tent - positioned in a derelict area beside bins and with graffiti on the walls. There were also reports of players seeing rats around the area.
The match finished 12-12 and afterwards the IRFU and Leinster Rugby released a statement on Twitter saying the facilities were “unacceptable” but that “changing facilities are not available for amateur rugby teams”.
“The IRFU and Leinster Rugby would like to apologise to players, management and representatives of Connacht Rugby and Ulster Rugby and are sorry for the inconvenience caused by an unacceptable error in relation to the positioning of temporary changing facilities,” read the statement.
“Due to current government guidelines, changing facilities are not available for amateur rugby teams.
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“These temporary facilities should have been set up in a more appropriate area.
“The IRFU and Leinster Rugby are extremely sorry for the inconvenience to the teams and the upset this unacceptable error has caused.”
Munster would go on to win the series on Sunday with a 19-7 victory over Leinster at the same venue.
Connacht released a statement on Sunday in response to the apology.
“Connacht Rugby acknowledges and welcomes the apology issued to our women’s squad and management for the changing facilities provided at last night’s fixture at Energia Park,” it read.
“Connacht Rugby along with the IRFU are proud of the strides we have made with women’s rugby, and the increased backing and support we have given our players, coaches and volunteers. TG4’s live coverage of the Connacht women’s fixture was also a very welcome development - the benefits of which will be clear to see in both the short and long-term future.
“Finally, we’d like to thank this year’s playing squad and management for their incredible commitment since their first training session many months ago. They have represented the province with pride and we look forward to seeing continued development of women’s rugby in Connacht at all levels.”
Scotalnd finally get a try back, and Italy have to be careful now cos scotland have their backs upclydecloggie wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 2:27 pm Scotland huffing and puffing but poor handling skills mean their attacks are slow and put little pressure on the Italy defence. In contrast, Italy are sharp and fast and cause trouble every time they have the ball. No wonder it's 38-6 now.
Italy take it with a good buffer. Surely Italy vs Ireland for the top spot when they play on Sunday.sturginho wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 2:38 pmScotalnd finally get a try back, and Italy have to be careful now cos scotland have their backs upclydecloggie wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 2:27 pm Scotland huffing and puffing but poor handling skills mean their attacks are slow and put little pressure on the Italy defence. In contrast, Italy are sharp and fast and cause trouble every time they have the ball. No wonder it's 38-6 now.