Re: Americas Cup - Official Thread
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:30 am
4 - 0.obelixtim wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:53 am Jimmy hands Ben his arse.
2 - 0.
British meeja blowhards jinx poor Ben.
4 - 0.obelixtim wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:53 am Jimmy hands Ben his arse.
2 - 0.
British meeja blowhards jinx poor Ben.
They haven’t made a mistake. It’s scaryFlockwitt wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:02 am Credit where it's due, they've got LR humming in terms of both boat and team - flawless performance today.
This is where I come to find out how it's going. I have seen literally nothing about the America's Cup this year on TV in the UK. The 3am to 5am timings probably don't help!
No, terrible time.charltom wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:44 amThis is where I come to find out how it's going. I have seen literally nothing about the America's Cup this year on TV in the UK. The 3am to 5am timings probably don't help!
Lowlights for UK viewers...Ymx wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:01 amNo, terrible time.
However you can watch as soon as you wake up on YouTube on the America’s cup channel
https://m.youtube.com/c/americascup/vid ... HfPdCoU%3D
Full race days. Post match pressers. And often highlights of each day too.
Have businesses closed down in the lockdown?Gumboot wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:12 pm Wednesday's scheduled racing has been postponed until further notice due to Auckland's latest covid lockdown.
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Because there isn’t enough time for the teams to isolate. So you shut down everything.Ymx wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:56 pmHave businesses closed down in the lockdown?Gumboot wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:12 pm Wednesday's scheduled racing has been postponed until further notice due to Auckland's latest covid lockdown.
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Why can’t the teams still operate as normal?
I could understand if they ditched the spectators, but a sailing team ? Why?
So it sounds like businesses can only do remote working and only essential shops open.
The measures in Auckland require its 1.7 million residents to stay at home except for essential shopping and work. Schools and non-essential shops will close, and entry in and out of the city restricted.
I know I can. My point is there's been pretty well no TV coverage at all here. Newspapers mosty started articles on Saturday, and aren't widely read these days. Almost nobody here has a clue about it, not when there's free to air international rugby and cricket to add to all the usual football. It's a shame.Ymx wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:01 amNo, terrible time.
However you can watch as soon as you wake up on YouTube on the America’s cup channel
https://m.youtube.com/c/americascup/vid ... HfPdCoU%3D
Full race days. Post match pressers. And often highlights of each day too.
Wfh if you can, otherwise go to work as long as you can socially distance of 1m. Any customer interaction has to be contact less so cafes etc still open just serving at the doorYmx wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:22 pm Just read a bit more. Sounds like a strict lockdown. Pretty much what we have over here.
So it sounds like businesses can only do remote working and only essential shops open.
The measures in Auckland require its 1.7 million residents to stay at home except for essential shopping and work. Schools and non-essential shops will close, and entry in and out of the city restricted.
Isn't Sky Mix free? My brother doesn't have a Sky Sports package but he has watched live America's Cup on Sky Mix. Also highlights the following day...charltom wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:41 pmI know I can. My point is there's been pretty well no TV coverage at all here. Newspapers mosty started articles on Saturday, and aren't widely read these days. Almost nobody here has a clue about it, not when there's free to air international rugby and cricket to add to all the usual football. It's a shame.Ymx wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:01 amNo, terrible time.charltom wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:44 am
This is where I come to find out how it's going. I have seen literally nothing about the America's Cup this year on TV in the UK. The 3am to 5am timings probably don't help!
However you can watch as soon as you wake up on YouTube on the America’s cup channel
https://m.youtube.com/c/americascup/vid ... HfPdCoU%3D
Full race days. Post match pressers. And often highlights of each day too.
Presumably you need Sky something (box, dish?). Certainly can't see that channel on my TV.Grandpa wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:44 amIsn't Sky Mix free? My brother doesn't have a Sky Sports package but he has watched live America's Cup on Sky Mix. Also highlights the following day...charltom wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:41 pmI know I can. My point is there's been pretty well no TV coverage at all here. Newspapers mosty started articles on Saturday, and aren't widely read these days. Almost nobody here has a clue about it, not when there's free to air international rugby and cricket to add to all the usual football. It's a shame.Ymx wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:01 am
No, terrible time.
However you can watch as soon as you wake up on YouTube on the America’s cup channel
https://m.youtube.com/c/americascup/vid ... HfPdCoU%3D
Full race days. Post match pressers. And often highlights of each day too.
Probably right. It's one of those free Sky channels as long as you have some sort of basic Sky package...charltom wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 2:14 pmPresumably you need Sky something (box, dish?). Certainly can't see that channel on my TV.Grandpa wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:44 amIsn't Sky Mix free? My brother doesn't have a Sky Sports package but he has watched live America's Cup on Sky Mix. Also highlights the following day...charltom wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:41 pm
I know I can. My point is there's been pretty well no TV coverage at all here. Newspapers mosty started articles on Saturday, and aren't widely read these days. Almost nobody here has a clue about it, not when there's free to air international rugby and cricket to add to all the usual football. It's a shame.
It’s all part of standard sky sports. And is on sky mobile (nowtv). Only about £5 a month.Grandpa wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 2:36 pmProbably right. It's one of those free Sky channels as long as you have some sort of basic Sky package...charltom wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 2:14 pmPresumably you need Sky something (box, dish?). Certainly can't see that channel on my TV.Grandpa wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:44 am
Isn't Sky Mix free? My brother doesn't have a Sky Sports package but he has watched live America's Cup on Sky Mix. Also highlights the following day...
Shouldn’t be too hard for them to social in the sheds or are you meaning out on the boats?Monkey Magic wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 6:23 amWfh if you can, otherwise go to work as long as you can socially distance of 1m. Any customer interaction has to be contact less so cafes etc still open just serving at the doorYmx wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:22 pm Just read a bit more. Sounds like a strict lockdown. Pretty much what we have over here.
So it sounds like businesses can only do remote working and only essential shops open.
The measures in Auckland require its 1.7 million residents to stay at home except for essential shopping and work. Schools and non-essential shops will close, and entry in and out of the city restricted.
Guessing the crews can't reasonably be expected to fulfill the distancing requirement.
Re news coverage from my post on prev page.Ymx wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:59 am https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... s-Cup.html
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ben- ... -b8khcd6md
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/ ... os-team-uk
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sir- ... -hwc802w23
https://www.itv.com/news/meridian/2021- ... ericas-cup
https://www.skysports.com/more-sports/s ... -cup-final
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/sailing/55777982
Plenty of news coverage too.
Was thinking the boats but apparently tnz were allowed out to train yesterday so buggered if I know- maybe ok to train as small team vs all the people needed to go out to setup a race.Ymx wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:48 pmShouldn’t be too hard for them to social in the sheds or are you meaning out on the boats?Monkey Magic wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 6:23 amWfh if you can, otherwise go to work as long as you can socially distance of 1m. Any customer interaction has to be contact less so cafes etc still open just serving at the doorYmx wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:22 pm Just read a bit more. Sounds like a strict lockdown. Pretty much what we have over here.
So it sounds like businesses can only do remote working and only essential shops open.
Guessing the crews can't reasonably be expected to fulfill the distancing requirement.
In any case, what’s the latest on all this?
Understand Ben dropped in some of the UK strain to buy a bit of time.
Sounds as though it’s getting hairy.
n these uncertain times, as the permitted Event Organiser responsible for the delivery of the 36th America’s Cup presented by Prada in Auckland under the Host Venue Agreement with NZ Government and Auckland Council, America’s Cup Event Limited remains committed to maintaining as many aspects as possible of the Event as originally planned.This includes the ambition to maximise the possibility of safe public engagement at the event for Aucklanders and kiwis from around the country, as well as the commercial benefits to local businesses, event sponsors and partners which includes the New Zealand Government and Auckland City.
The position of ACE is based on one of two options based on the Government’s review of alert levels at 4:30 this afternoon:
- If the alert levels drop to level 1 in time, then racing will resume this weekend.
- If the alert level remains at 3 or 2, which obviously entails restrictions in gatherings and difficulties with events, racing and event activations would need to be rescheduled to recommence the PRADA Cup Final on Friday 26 February. To respect the original timeframe scheduled between the Prada Cup Final and the America’s Cup Match, Race 1 of the Match would subsequently begin a week later on Saturday 13 March with the intention of racing still being completed by 21 March.
This morning the Challenger of Record (COR36) has made their position very clear in stating their desire to race from tomorrow despite COVID Alert level 3, to complete the PRADA Cup final by the 24th February in accordance with the existing Prada Cup conditions.
They have also stated that if the racing program cannot be completed by Wednesday (24th) they intend to declare the leading point scorer the winner of the Prada Cup and Challenger for the America’s Cup Match. Under the current points situation, that would be Luna Rossa Prada Pirelli team.
CHALLENGER OF RECORD AMERICA'S CUP 36 ORGANIZER OF THE PRADA CUP CALLS FOR RESUMING RACING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE
Challenger of Record America's Cup 36 (COR 36) - the organizer of the PRADA Cup – urged America’s Cup Events (ACE) to request an exemption to carry on the Final of the PRADA Cup in compliance with the Racing Calendar and in order to meet the legitimate expectations of the competitors involved, of the international public and of the international television networks who have already programmed their broadcastings.
Unfortunately this did not happen, notwithstanding a protocol and a procedure which were put in place since months in the event such circumstance would occur. COR 36 has been now informed by ACE that they are discussing with the Authorities different options, including the postponement of the racing to the 26th of February; this is in total breach of the regulations, which set the 24th of February as the end of the PRADA Cup, without any possible extension.
COR 36 is indeed endeavouring to ensure that the PRADA Cup Final resumes as early as the 19th of February whilst respecting public health and the protocols imposed by the New Zealand government. COR 36 has also offered its full support to ACE and to the local authorities to immediately implement the Level 3 Alert management plan provided for by the AC36 Event COVID-19 Management On Land and On Water Plans. These plans provide that, in a level 3 COVID-19 alert, the AC36 Village shall be closed and the regattas shall resume “behind closed doors”, without any public, as it already happens for many international sporting events (Formula 1, Australian Open etc.).
This on water management plan has already been tested and can therefore be immediately activated with the approval of the Authorities. Since teams are authorised to sail and practice under COVID-19 level 3 alert, it is hard to understand why racing “behind closed doors” could not be allowed applying the same protocols.
In this context, and in compliance with the regulations, there is no reason to further delay the carrying on of the regattas as scheduled, giving both teams the opportunity to complete the number of races required by the series within the terms and deadlines imposed by the racing calendar. It should be reminded that otherwise Rule A2.3(b) of Appendix A to the World Sailing Racing Rules of Sailing America’s Cup edition Version 3.03 for the 36th America’s Cup presented by PRADA - which provide that “….the winner is the team with the highest score at the date of the final scheduled date” - would apply.
COR 36 hopes not to apply this provision and that an exemption to allow racing at the scheduled dates will be granted.
While America’s Cup Event is encouraged by the news that Auckland has come down to COVID Alert Level 2, one step closer to Level 1 potentially early next week, it is clear that COR are determined to remain inflexible to a change in the race schedule against the interests of the public and commercial benefits to the city and businesses. ACE has consistently maintained our preference to have the best opportunity to race at alert level 1.
Chair of America’s Cup Events Tina Symmans said, “This is a disappointing situation, it is my responsibility to do my best to run the event with the best interests of the public and all stakeholders in mind. So with the current impasse, while not agreeing with the Challenger of Record, we want to see the regatta completed on the water”
ACE now considers the best solution that can be hoped for is to continue racing this weekend which will at least allow as much opportunity as possible for the public to enjoy the viewing in small gatherings or via the TV broadcast.
“Since Sunday, we have worked really hard on behalf of everyone in Auckland and all kiwis to give COR the opportunity to demonstrate some honour and respect for this country and delay the Prada Cup until we have a greater chance of everyone being able to enjoy and benefit from being back into Level 1.” explained Symmans.
“Clearly they have forgotten the words of their leader Patricio Bertelli at the opening press conference who spoke about how privileged everyone is to be in Auckland without significant Covid restrictions and that therefore everyone has a commitment and responsibility to deliver great sportsmanship and the Prada Cup to be a major sporting event.”
“This plea has fallen on deaf ears and it’s clear that their focus is solely on Luna Rossa taking the Prada Cup rather than the greater good of the country who have worked so hard in order to be in a position to stage this event.” Symmans concluded.
With this in mind racing under COVID19 Level 2 can continue with the following restrictions:
Racecourses B & C will not be used for racing, to mitigate the chance of large public gatherings on shore, which are in line with Government Level 2 restrictions.
No public viewing opportunities such as dock out shows or public screening of racing in the race village.
Including gatherings of no more than 100 people in the America’s Cup Race Village or public spectator vantage points around Auckland.
Limited village activations to ensure no more than 100 people.
2 metre physical distancing, and face masks recommended.
All bars, restaurants and cafes surrounding the Race Village can remain open in line with Ministry of Health COVID19 Level 2 Guidelines.
Public are reminded to always scan the NZCOVID19 Tracer App.
Even if you don't understand the intricacies of what's going on,whoever wrote that statement should be fired immediately. It just comes across as a massive stropYmx wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:09 pm A new update. Racing is happening.
How fvcking sulky is Tina Symmans from ACE.
That’s embarrassing
While America’s Cup Event is encouraged by the news that Auckland has come down to COVID Alert Level 2, one step closer to Level 1 potentially early next week, it is clear that COR are determined to remain inflexible to a change in the race schedule against the interests of the public and commercial benefits to the city and businesses. ACE has consistently maintained our preference to have the best opportunity to race at alert level 1.
Chair of America’s Cup Events Tina Symmans said, “This is a disappointing situation, it is my responsibility to do my best to run the event with the best interests of the public and all stakeholders in mind. So with the current impasse, while not agreeing with the Challenger of Record, we want to see the regatta completed on the water”
ACE now considers the best solution that can be hoped for is to continue racing this weekend which will at least allow as much opportunity as possible for the public to enjoy the viewing in small gatherings or via the TV broadcast.
“Since Sunday, we have worked really hard on behalf of everyone in Auckland and all kiwis to give COR the opportunity to demonstrate some honour and respect for this country and delay the Prada Cup until we have a greater chance of everyone being able to enjoy and benefit from being back into Level 1.” explained Symmans.
“Clearly they have forgotten the words of their leader Patricio Bertelli at the opening press conference who spoke about how privileged everyone is to be in Auckland without significant Covid restrictions and that therefore everyone has a commitment and responsibility to deliver great sportsmanship and the Prada Cup to be a major sporting event.”
“This plea has fallen on deaf ears and it’s clear that their focus is solely on Luna Rossa taking the Prada Cup rather than the greater good of the country who have worked so hard in order to be in a position to stage this event.” Symmans concluded.
With this in mind racing under COVID19 Level 2 can continue with the following restrictions:
Racecourses B & C will not be used for racing, to mitigate the chance of large public gatherings on shore, which are in line with Government Level 2 restrictions.
No public viewing opportunities such as dock out shows or public screening of racing in the race village.
Including gatherings of no more than 100 people in the America’s Cup Race Village or public spectator vantage points around Auckland.
Limited village activations to ensure no more than 100 people.
2 metre physical distancing, and face masks recommended.
All bars, restaurants and cafes surrounding the Race Village can remain open in line with Ministry of Health COVID19 Level 2 Guidelines.
Public are reminded to always scan the NZCOVID19 Tracer App.
Stupid woman.Ymx wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 11:09 pm A new update. Racing is happening.
How fvcking sulky is Tina Symmans from ACE.
That’s embarrassing
While America’s Cup Event is encouraged by the news that Auckland has come down to COVID Alert Level 2, one step closer to Level 1 potentially early next week, it is clear that COR are determined to remain inflexible to a change in the race schedule against the interests of the public and commercial benefits to the city and businesses. ACE has consistently maintained our preference to have the best opportunity to race at alert level 1.
Chair of America’s Cup Events Tina Symmans said, “This is a disappointing situation, it is my responsibility to do my best to run the event with the best interests of the public and all stakeholders in mind. So with the current impasse, while not agreeing with the Challenger of Record, we want to see the regatta completed on the water”
ACE now considers the best solution that can be hoped for is to continue racing this weekend which will at least allow as much opportunity as possible for the public to enjoy the viewing in small gatherings or via the TV broadcast.
“Since Sunday, we have worked really hard on behalf of everyone in Auckland and all kiwis to give COR the opportunity to demonstrate some honour and respect for this country and delay the Prada Cup until we have a greater chance of everyone being able to enjoy and benefit from being back into Level 1.” explained Symmans.
“Clearly they have forgotten the words of their leader Patricio Bertelli at the opening press conference who spoke about how privileged everyone is to be in Auckland without significant Covid restrictions and that therefore everyone has a commitment and responsibility to deliver great sportsmanship and the Prada Cup to be a major sporting event.”
“This plea has fallen on deaf ears and it’s clear that their focus is solely on Luna Rossa taking the Prada Cup rather than the greater good of the country who have worked so hard in order to be in a position to stage this event.” Symmans concluded.
With this in mind racing under COVID19 Level 2 can continue with the following restrictions:
Racecourses B & C will not be used for racing, to mitigate the chance of large public gatherings on shore, which are in line with Government Level 2 restrictions.
No public viewing opportunities such as dock out shows or public screening of racing in the race village.
Including gatherings of no more than 100 people in the America’s Cup Race Village or public spectator vantage points around Auckland.
Limited village activations to ensure no more than 100 people.
2 metre physical distancing, and face masks recommended.
All bars, restaurants and cafes surrounding the Race Village can remain open in line with Ministry of Health COVID19 Level 2 Guidelines.
Public are reminded to always scan the NZCOVID19 Tracer App.
Ms Symmans will get COVID??
They'll have the vernier gauges out for Prada tomorrow thoughYmx wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:21 pm Yep by the measurements committee.
But Ben is the one who has fallen foul of this to date.
Yep.Ovals wrote: Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:49 pmBe nice to see Ineos claw their way back - make a proper match of it.