NPR

handyman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:54 pm For me, drop a scrummie and take 1 of Johan Goosen or Robert du Preez. At least another option at flyhalf/fullback.

_Os_ wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:36 pm 1. Van Staden
2. Wiese
3. Esterhuizen
4. Orie
5. Snyman
6. Kleyn
7. Moodie
8. Koch
9. Ox
10. Smith
11. Faf
12. Kolbe
13. Libbok
14. Willemse
15, Mapimpi
16. Kriel
17. Hendrikse
18. Deon Fourie
19. Arendse
20. Williams
21. Reinach
22. Malherbe
23. Mbonambi
24. Marx
25. Nyakane
26. Pieter-Steph du Toit
27. De Allende
28. Kitshoff
29. Mostert
30. Le Roux
31. Vermeulen
32. Etzebeth
33. Kolisi

... 4 scrumhalfs!

_Os_ wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:01 pm Organised into how I think they'll be used. There must be a lot of backs they're thinking of using in new positions. Four wings and four scrumhalfs, doesn't work if they're all used in those positions only. Guessing Moodie is covering more than wing, but cannot guess on the others, Kolbe maybe because he has played 15.

Loosehead: Kitshoff, Ox Nche
Hooker: Marx, Mbonambi
Tighthead: Malherbe, Koch
Utility prop: Nyakane
4 Lock: Etzebeth, Snyman
5 Lock: Orie, Kleyn
Openside: Kolisi (captain), Van Staden
Eightman: Vermeulen, Wiese
Blindside: Pieter-Steph du Toit
Utility forward: Mostert (5 lock/blindside), Deon Fourie (hooker/backrow), Smith (backrow)
Scrumhalf: Faf, Hendrikse, Reinach, Williams
Flyhalf: Libbok
Wing: Mapimpi, Kolbe, Arendse
Inside centre: De Allende, Esterhuizen
Outside centre: Kriel
Fullback: Le Roux
Utility back: Willemse (flyhalf/fullback), Moodie (wing/13/15)

Sards wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 5:16 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:38 pm Pretty happy with that squad. Very glad for Libbok. He will give another edge to the Boks.

Took you a long while to warm up to the Sharks poach.

boere wors wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 7:11 pm Ok, so out of our crippled RWC 33, which is the first choice 23 that you would pick

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:38 pm Pretty happy with that squad. Very glad for Libbok. He will give another edge to the Boks.

assfly wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:14 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:38 pm Pretty happy with that squad. Very glad for Libbok. He will give another edge to the Boks.

Hopefully not the outside edge of the posts, like on Saturday.

average joe wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:32 am 1. Kitshoff
2. Marx
3. Malherbe
4. Etzebeth
5. Orie
6. Kolisi (captain)
7. Pieter-Steph du Toit
8. Vermeulen
9. Williams
10. Faf
11. Mapimpi
12. Willemse
13. De Allende
14. Kolbe
15. Le Roux

16. Mbonambi
17. Ox
18. Nyakane
19. Snyman
20. Mostert
21. Smith
22. Reinach/Hendrikse
23. Moodie

boere wors wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:58 pm

average joe wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:32 am 1. Kitshoff
2. Marx
3. Malherbe
4. Etzebeth
5. Orie
6. Kolisi (captain)
7. Pieter-Steph du Toit
8. Vermeulen
9. Williams
10. Faf
11. Mapimpi
12. Willemse
13. De Allende
14. Kolbe
15. Le Roux

16. Mbonambi
17. Ox
18. Nyakane
19. Snyman
20. Mostert
21. Smith
22. Reinach/Hendrikse
23. Moodie

Just saw that. That's, uhm, interesting... did he ever play 10 for his clubs in the past?

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 5:30 am Anyone know why Jan Serfontein hasn't been considered in all this?

assfly wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 5:33 am

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 5:30 am Anyone know why Jan Serfontein hasn't been considered in all this?

He hasn't played since about 2016 I think?

Not sure why as he is a ridiculous talent, but perhaps unlucky to fall behind the DdA, Am, Estherhuizen, Kreil selections of the last 6 years.

boere wors wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 6:45 am He must have pissed off somebody at SARU.

average joe wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 8:11 am Or he just opted out. People always think selection is a one-sided discussion. They can't imagine that a player doesn't want to play for their country. They can ask you if you don't want to, they can't force you.

There can be a lot of reasons why a player decides to opt out.

He might not want to play for the Boks for personal reasons.
He might not like their management style, he might feel their game plan does not suite him.
He might feel they force him to play in a position or in a way where he can't express himself or that they're not paying him enough for his services.

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 8:46 am

average joe wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 8:11 am Or he just opted out. People always think selection is a one-sided discussion. They can't imagine that a player doesn't want to play for their country. They can ask you if you don't want to, they can't force you.

There can be a lot of reasons why a player decides to opt out.

He might not want to play for the Boks for personal reasons.
He might not like their management style, he might feel their game plan does not suite him.
He might feel they force him to play in a position or in a way where he can't express himself or that they're not paying him enough for his services.

Or he played at Sale where there are a number of other Saffers who feel they have been screwed-over by SARU and are bitching in his ear around 2017/18?

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 8:46 am Or he played at Sale where there are a number of other Saffers who feel they have been screwed-over by SARU and are bitching in his ear around 2017/18?

assfly wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:19 am

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 8:46 am Or he played at Sale where there are a number of other Saffers who feel they have been screwed-over by SARU and are bitching in his ear around 2017/18?

You mean Montpellier?

assfly wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:31 am
But if our forwards can get fired up, we can fuck shit up like no other team.

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:04 am I want that on a t-shirt!!!

assfly wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:32 am

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:04 am I want that on a t-shirt!!!

I'll get the damn tattoo if we win!

average joe wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 6:02 am He played 10 for Sale a few times too if I'm not mistaken. It's the only logical explanation I have for them picking 4 scrummies. He's also earmarked to cover 10 and (bar Willemse) they are short an out and out 12 so they'll basically do a sideways shuffle with the backline when replacements have to come on. Look, he's a bit small but he's a terrier. He's a strong defender and he can still wrap around from 10. As a 9 he must be able to distribute. He's an accurate kicker, he might not have huge range but who does in this squad?

I won't be surprised if we see him play 10 a few times.

boere wors wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 12:57 pm https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/pollard-re ... -scotland/

“Handre will be able to start training with us, while Lukhanyo has a two to four-week injury, but it’s still very acute. We’ll probably get a better gauge of how he’s doing by the end of the week, but that’s why we’re taking them with us.

“We believe they both have the potential of being fit and ready to go for Scotland and maybe the week after.”

Can someone explain all that is said in this article. I dont really get it. Handre will be fit in 2 or 3 weeks, Am has a 2 to 4 week injury?! Why didnt they just include them then in the RWC squad?? How easy can they be drafted into the squad from that standby list? What does Nienaber mean with "If a player does something to deselect themselves, or they do something weird, which is in their hands, but I don’t think that will happen."

assfly wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:19 pm There are going to be injuries in the games against Wales and NZ.