The other talking point is there's going to be a big stink that the 2026 Canadian GP will be on in the middle of the Indy 500, while previously you could fall asleep during Monaco, & then wake up & watch the demolition derby at IMS.Sandstorm wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 2:55 pmPity. Imola is an interesting track and usually has decent racing.fishfoodie wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 2:48 pm Imola officially dropped, & to be replaced by yet another fucking street circuit![]()
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Another entry in the Lance Stroll shouldn't be in F1 boxed set of shit driving incidents
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"I'll try and get it back"fishfoodie wrote: Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:10 pm Another entry in the Lance Stroll shouldn't be in F1 boxed set of shit driving incidents
"Just stop Lance, don't try to bring it back, we'll have to stop"
"But why?"
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Le Mans looking promising so far; tight competition across all three classes, & so many beautiful cars, there's a puddle of drool forming beneath my chair
It'll be very confusing to the yanks if any of the Cadillac's complete the full 24hrs without breaking down, because that's something none of them have ever encountered in any of the retail versions, but then again the Hypercar version is also better thru the curves than any of their opposition too, & cornering was never a strong point of the brand !
The Ferrari HC is utterly, utterly gorgeous, & the Aston Martin GT3 is a beautiful car too, I even have to say the Corvette looks good too !

It'll be very confusing to the yanks if any of the Cadillac's complete the full 24hrs without breaking down, because that's something none of them have ever encountered in any of the retail versions, but then again the Hypercar version is also better thru the curves than any of their opposition too, & cornering was never a strong point of the brand !
The Ferrari HC is utterly, utterly gorgeous, & the Aston Martin GT3 is a beautiful car too, I even have to say the Corvette looks good too !
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Onboard camera feed from Le Mans is bloody epic at the moment !!!!!
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The Norris v Piastri battle was great until it wasn't
Le Mans was
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If your trying to suggest that Norris is getting preferential treatment compared to your hero, Max, you can stop. The stewards investigated after the race and gave Norris a 5-second penalty for causing a collision.Dogbert wrote: Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:20 pm What Penalty will Lando be given for causing a high speed collision ?
He is a little bit fortunate that he was classified in the race allowing the 5-second penalty to be served and totally irrelevant.Lobby wrote: Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:20 pmIf your trying to suggest that Norris is getting preferential treatment compared to your hero, Max, you can stop. The stewards investigated after the race and gave Norris a 5-second penalty for causing a collision.Dogbert wrote: Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:20 pm What Penalty will Lando be given for causing a high speed collision ?
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Naturally, he was classified as in the race. He caused the SC that ended it.Big D wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:38 amHe is a little bit fortunate that he was classified in the race allowing the 5-second penalty to be served and totally irrelevant.Lobby wrote: Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:20 pmIf your trying to suggest that Norris is getting preferential treatment compared to your hero, Max, you can stop. The stewards investigated after the race and gave Norris a 5-second penalty for causing a collision.Dogbert wrote: Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:20 pm What Penalty will Lando be given for causing a high speed collision ?
A complete nothing burger of a penalty. If Verstappen had pulled that reckless manoeuvre against Piastri , would you have been happy with a five second penalty - Be HonestLobby wrote: Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:20 pmIf your trying to suggest that Norris is getting preferential treatment compared to your hero, Max, you can stop. The stewards investigated after the race and gave Norris a 5-second penalty for causing a collision.Dogbert wrote: Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:20 pm What Penalty will Lando be given for causing a high speed collision ?
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Had that been only Max's 15th such incident perhaps it would have past without murmur, but Max is atop a much higher number, and it's that repeat history which sees Max earn some rebukes (and some praise for the single mindedness which also earns much success)
IIRC causing the accident has nothing to do with being classified? He had completed 90% of the laps allowing his classification, considering how boneheaded the move was the fact he crashed 6 laps from the end rather than 8 was fortunate in that it allows him to be classified and not carry a punishment into the next race.Guy Smiley wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:56 amNaturally, he was classified as in the race. He caused the SC that ended it.Big D wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:38 amHe is a little bit fortunate that he was classified in the race allowing the 5-second penalty to be served and totally irrelevant.Lobby wrote: Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:20 pm
If your trying to suggest that Norris is getting preferential treatment compared to your hero, Max, you can stop. The stewards investigated after the race and gave Norris a 5-second penalty for causing a collision.
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Verstappen received a complete nothing burger of a penalty the previous round when he DELIBERATELY DROVE INTO A COMPETITORS CAR.Dogbert wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 10:13 amA complete nothing burger of a penalty. If Verstappen had pulled that reckless manoeuvre against Piastri , would you have been happy with a five second penalty - Be HonestLobby wrote: Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:20 pmIf your trying to suggest that Norris is getting preferential treatment compared to your hero, Max, you can stop. The stewards investigated after the race and gave Norris a 5-second penalty for causing a collision.Dogbert wrote: Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:20 pm What Penalty will Lando be given for causing a high speed collision ?
No-one else on the grid comes close to the degree of petty aggression spiking into dangerous acts that Verstappen pulls almost as a matter of course.Everyone can see it. Trying to defend it OR suggest any other driver is guilty of the same thing is
a bit sad.
Congratulations for completely misrepresenting my poststo try to make a point.Guy Smiley wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:39 pmVerstappen received a complete nothing burger of a penalty the previous round when he DELIBERATELY DROVE INTO A COMPETITORS CAR.Dogbert wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 10:13 amA complete nothing burger of a penalty. If Verstappen had pulled that reckless manoeuvre against Piastri , would you have been happy with a five second penalty - Be HonestLobby wrote: Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:20 pm
If your trying to suggest that Norris is getting preferential treatment compared to your hero, Max, you can stop. The stewards investigated after the race and gave Norris a 5-second penalty for causing a collision.
No-one else on the grid comes close to the degree of petty aggression spiking into dangerous acts that Verstappen pulls almost as a matter of course.Everyone can see it. Trying to defend it OR suggest any other driver is guilty of the same thing is
a bit sad.
At no point have I defended Verstappens crash into Norris, in the same fashion as Senna's crash into Prost in 1990 both were was stupid and unprofessional. However Norris's attempt on the overtake of Piasti was reckless and dangerous at such a high speed part of the circuit.
It merited points on Norris licence
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Congratulations for completely misrepresenting my poststo try to make a point.Guy Smiley wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:39 pmVerstappen received a complete nothing burger of a penalty the previous round when he DELIBERATELY DROVE INTO A COMPETITORS CAR.Dogbert wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 10:13 amA complete nothing burger of a penalty. If Verstappen had pulled that reckless manoeuvre against Piastri , would you have been happy with a five second penalty - Be HonestLobby wrote: Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:20 pm
If your trying to suggest that Norris is getting preferential treatment compared to your hero, Max, you can stop. The stewards investigated after the race and gave Norris a 5-second penalty for causing a collision.
No-one else on the grid comes close to the degree of petty aggression spiking into dangerous acts that Verstappen pulls almost as a matter of course.Everyone can see it. Trying to defend it OR suggest any other driver is guilty of the same thing is
a bit sad.
At no point have I defended Verstappens crash into Norris, in the same fashion as Senna's crash into Prost in 1990 both were was stupid and unprofessional. However Norris's attempt on the overtake of Piasti was reckless and dangerous at such a high speed part of the circuit.
It merited points on Norris licence
Lager & Lime - we don't do cocktails
Dogbert wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:24 pmCongratulations for completely misrepresenting my poststo try to make a point.Guy Smiley wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:39 pmVerstappen received a complete nothing burger of a penalty the previous round when he DELIBERATELY DROVE INTO A COMPETITORS CAR.Dogbert wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 10:13 am
A complete nothing burger of a penalty. If Verstappen had pulled that reckless manoeuvre against Piastri , would you have been happy with a five second penalty - Be Honest
No-one else on the grid comes close to the degree of petty aggression spiking into dangerous acts that Verstappen pulls almost as a matter of course.Everyone can see it. Trying to defend it OR suggest any other driver is guilty of the same thing is
a bit sad.
At no point have I defended Verstappens crash into Norris, in the same fashion as Senna's crash into Prost in 1990 both were was stupid and unprofessional. However Norris's attempt on the overtake of Piasti was reckless and dangerous at such a high speed part of the circuit.
It merited points on Norris licence
I think given Norris immediately accepted responsibility and apologised publicly on the radio deserves to be treated differently to a sociopath who asks if there is any difference between deliberately driving into an opponent or accidentally doing it after he has just driven deliberately into an opponent.
Catch up Dogbert. We’re talking about Barcelona when Max petulantly drive into Russell.Dogbert wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:24 pmCongratulations for completely misrepresenting my poststo try to make a point.Guy Smiley wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:39 pmVerstappen received a complete nothing burger of a penalty the previous round when he DELIBERATELY DROVE INTO A COMPETITORS CAR.Dogbert wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 10:13 am
A complete nothing burger of a penalty. If Verstappen had pulled that reckless manoeuvre against Piastri , would you have been happy with a five second penalty - Be Honest
No-one else on the grid comes close to the degree of petty aggression spiking into dangerous acts that Verstappen pulls almost as a matter of course.Everyone can see it. Trying to defend it OR suggest any other driver is guilty of the same thing is
a bit sad.
At no point have I defended Verstappens crash into Norris, in the same fashion as Senna's crash into Prost in 1990 both were was stupid and unprofessional. However Norris's attempt on the overtake of Piasti was reckless and dangerous at such a high speed part of the circuit.
It merited points on Norris licence
I have never seen a driver penalised by the Stewards for causing a collision , and the stewards gave Norris a 5 second penalty , without the Stewards also awarding at least one, usually 2 penalty points - that hasn't happened , ever.Sandstorm wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 8:51 pmCatch up Dogbert. We’re talking about Barcelona when Max petulantly drive into Russell.Dogbert wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:24 pmCongratulations for completely misrepresenting my poststo try to make a point.Guy Smiley wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 5:39 pm
Verstappen received a complete nothing burger of a penalty the previous round when he DELIBERATELY DROVE INTO A COMPETITORS CAR.
No-one else on the grid comes close to the degree of petty aggression spiking into dangerous acts that Verstappen pulls almost as a matter of course.Everyone can see it. Trying to defend it OR suggest any other driver is guilty of the same thing is
a bit sad.
At no point have I defended Verstappens crash into Norris, in the same fashion as Senna's crash into Prost in 1990 both were was stupid and unprofessional. However Norris's attempt on the overtake of Piasti was reckless and dangerous at such a high speed part of the circuit.
It merited points on Norris licence
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To be fair I can't recall many collisions resulting in penalties where there was no damage at all to the car driven into. Was a strange incident all round from Norris effectively panicking into a move that wasn't there to the contrasting states the cars were left it with Piastri not impacted at all and Norris in the wall.Dogbert wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 10:17 pm
I have never seen a driver penalised by the Stewards for causing a collision , and the stewards gave Norris a 5 second penalty , without the Stewards also awarding at least one, usually 2 penalty points - that hasn't happened , ever.
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Interesting for McLaren now they can see they're not always the fastest car and Piastri's lead isn't massive that Norris has granted them an easier out for putting one driver ahead of the other, and really Norris can only blame himself
Love this post... mist have been a fantastic trip too...Flockwitt wrote: Fri Jun 06, 2025 9:05 pm It's a weird thing, this human potential across the globe and amongst us. I remember going upriver in Borneo, Sarawak, to a long house where you could stay for free, just roll in and the tribe'd put you up. That's the communal building where everybody in the tribe lived. I'd pulled down a wicker basket hanging from the roof in the living room as it were, there were a fair few of them, to discover it was full of human skulls. You see grandad in the corner there to get married had to go and get a skull. Yep, actual headhunters. Now the chief of this tribe was barely 2nd generation non-headhunter, and he was one of the most impressive individuals I've ever met in my life. Focused, utterly professional in his demeanour and actions who radiated considered thought and charisma. Handled family disputes, managed the tribes finances and purchases (I met him again when he came down to Sibu for business), education (they got volunteer teachers to come over from Malaysia proper). Spoke a bunch of different languages including English and Mandarin. An extraordinarily intelligent and talented man capable of anything.
His potential was not wasted as it were, but I find it utterly fascinating this source of ability that can be found anywhere amongst anybody. And you have to realize in wars and despotism how much of this goes to waste.
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Dream FP1 for Alex Dunne today; I'm not sure how it could have gone better for the young man !
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Verstappen has had a car purpose built for him, and only him, for the last 6 years. All that R&D, investment and 1200 people in the factory dedicated to building a bespoke Verstappen car.
I know that. I said it was a poor strategy, especially when the opponent TEAMS catch up and RB don’t have another driver bringing points to the Constructor’s ChampionshipKawazaki wrote: Sun Jun 29, 2025 2:58 pm
Verstappen has had a car purpose built for him, and only him, for the last 6 years. All that R&D, investment and 1200 people in the factory dedicated to building a bespoke Verstappen car.
Sandstorm wrote: Sun Jun 29, 2025 3:00 pmI know that. I said it was a poor strategy, especially when the opponent TEAMS catch up and RB don’t have another driver bringing points to the Constructor’s ChampionshipKawazaki wrote: Sun Jun 29, 2025 2:58 pmSandstorm wrote: Sun Jun 29, 2025 2:44 pm
That 2nd RB car is undrivable for anyone but Max. Dumb designing themselves into a corner.
Verstappen has had a car purpose built for him, and only him, for the last 6 years. All that R&D, investment and 1200 people in the factory dedicated to building a bespoke Verstappen car.
I wasn't criticising you, just shining light on Verstappen's achievements. He's a spoilt brat - far more than Stroll in fact.
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Compare & contrast with McLaren !Sandstorm wrote: Sun Jun 29, 2025 3:00 pmI know that. I said it was a poor strategy, especially when the opponent TEAMS catch up and RB don’t have another driver bringing points to the Constructor’s ChampionshipKawazaki wrote: Sun Jun 29, 2025 2:58 pmSandstorm wrote: Sun Jun 29, 2025 2:44 pm
That 2nd RB car is undrivable for anyone but Max. Dumb designing themselves into a corner.
Verstappen has had a car purpose built for him, and only him, for the last 6 years. All that R&D, investment and 1200 people in the factory dedicated to building a bespoke Verstappen car.
Dunne comes in in his first FP2 session & ends up in the top 4 in the session, within tenths of the other McLaren driver; and Alex wasn't exactly identified at birth as a future World Champion, but at a pinch McLaren now know they have someone on the bench who can do a job if one of their top drivers can't race.
What have the vaunted RedBull leadership learned the last few years ???? ..... that they still have a car that only one person on the planet can drive, & he might bugger off to Merc at the earliest possible opportunity.
That's how you end up with your only remaining car finishing last on your home GP !
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