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Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 12:33 am
by _Os_
laurent wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 5:34 pm
tc27 wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 5:24 pm I had written off Bakmut but the latest news is more optimistic.
It's very Fluid though
This guy has reliable sources usually.
Ukraine rotated their troops in the Bakhmut area recently.

I've seen video of Georgian Legion deploying there on foot (ruined urban terrain), weighed down by rucksacks and what they were carrying in their hands, they did not look like they were going for a short stay. I've also seen what looked like TDF (guessing based on how they were using RPGs, the lining up a stack against a wall method, then the best shot/bravest fires them all quickly in a volley from the same spot giving away his position but firing it all into one target, a 2014 volunteer technique) in heavy fighting there. I think I've seen Azov there in recent video too. Fairly sure those groups are confirmed to be in the Bakhmut area on some maps too.

The thing about Georgian Legion/veteran TDF (it's not going to be raw TDF sent into Bakhmut)/Azov. They may not strictly be regulars (although Azov has been fully regularised), but they are volunteers who've been doing this awhile. Not special forces with all the new gear but they may as well be elite, they're probably some of the most experienced light infantry on the planet in this type of full blown combat. They would keep going even if they were surrounded like the Mariupol defenders. Which could well be why veteran volunteer units were sent in.

Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:12 am
by Flockwitt
Mixed messages about Bahkmut but Ukraine has just banned journalists and humanitarian aid from going in which is not positive.

Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:08 am
by laurent
Flockwitt wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:12 am Mixed messages about Bahkmut but Ukraine has just banned journalists and humanitarian aid from going in which is not positive.
That's a few days old (before the recent push). There was most likely too much chatter (and the Russian target civilian volunteers) .

Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:49 am
by Flockwitt
laurent wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:08 am
Flockwitt wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:12 am Mixed messages about Bahkmut but Ukraine has just banned journalists and humanitarian aid from going in which is not positive.
That's a few days old (before the recent push). There was most likely too much chatter (and the Russian target civilian volunteers) .
Just is relative, I should have left it out of the sentence. The point is it's the same action and done for the same reason like there was in Lysychans'k just before it fell. The Ukrainians prepared for the worst case event, and fair enough given the situation. Bakhmut's most definitely in the balance.

Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:21 pm
by fishfoodie
I wonder how long it'll be before someone decides to take advantage of >95% of the Orcs army committing suicide in Ukraine ?

Another Long read
Land forces at Kola reduced to one-fifth, Norwegian Intelligence says


"The land forces on Kola are reduced to a fifth of their original numbers before the invasion of Ukraine," says Chief of the Norwegian Intelligence Service, Vice Admiral Nils Andreas Stensønes to the Barents Observer. He warns that the consequence is a Russia which may lower the threshold for nuclear escalation, also near Norway.

...

Tears are flowing to the Pechenga River from young widows and children as names of fallen soldiers are telegrammed north from Vladimir Putin’s battlefields in Ukraine. The bloody fate of the men that just over a year ago were based near Russia’s peaceful border with Norway and Finland is much worse than previously known, according to a report issued on Monday by the Norwegian Intelligence Service.

1,500 troops are killed. Maybe more.

The men with the 200th Separate Motor Rifle Brigade had their training camps along the Pechenga River; at 19 km, in Loustari and in the village of Pechenga. All are less than an hour’s drive from the border with Norway.

In late 2021, the first orders were given to load up tanks, armored vehicles, guns, artillery, and other gear onto railway wagons at the train station in Loustari. Soldiers were ordered into passenger railroad cars.

Exercise in southern Russia, they were told.

On the night of February 24, Putin ordered his military commanders to invade Ukraine. A few hours later were vehicles from the 200th Motorized brigade rolling towards Kharkiv, the second largest city in Ukraine, just 30 kilometers south of the Russian border.

Putin’s soldiers were met not with flowers, but fierce resistance.

In the early stage of the war, the 200th Separate Brigade from the Kola Peninsula lost two battalion tactical groups. The Barents Observer reported about 645 killed during the first month, while other reports hinted the numbers of casualties were higher.

Before schools started in the Murmansk region last autumn, regional authorities launched free meals for pupils whose parents were killed or wounded in Ukraine. At the time, 1,274 children qualified, a strong indication of the wave of deaths among fathers who would never again see their children become students.

The Norwegian Intelligence, which since the second world war has kept close eyes on the military ups and downs in the Pechenga region, says in its FOKUS 2023 report that about three battalion groups, with 3,000 soldiers, were sent to the battlefields.

“About half is lost,” the report concludes. That is 1,500 dead soldiers.

The Northern Fleet has in addition lost up to 100 tanks and armored vehicles.

...


https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/secur ... -wiped-out

Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:29 pm
by Frop.E
fishfoodie wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:21 pm I wonder how long it'll be before someone decides to take advantage of >95% of the Orcs army committing suicide in Ukraine ?

Another Long read

Never, that would be insanity.

Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:37 pm
by tabascoboy
Even with large initial numbers, if the assessment is correct it's a staggering loss for Russia


Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 5:00 pm
by PornDog
Frop.E wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:29 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:21 pm I wonder how long it'll be before someone decides to take advantage of >95% of the Orcs army committing suicide in Ukraine ?

Another Long read

Never, that would be insanity.
That would depend on who the someone is and what manner of advantage it is they are taking.

Obviously Norway invading Russia would be insanity - but Georgia or Maldova retaking control of their borders may be less so. And then you have a plethora of internal republics with varying degrees of allegiance to Moscow. Not all together likely I don't think, but not beyond the realms of possibility either.

Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 6:26 pm
by tabascoboy
Mixed reports coming from Bakhmut: RU claims more success - UA says they are still holding


Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 6:27 pm
by fishfoodie
PornDog wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 5:00 pm
Frop.E wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 4:29 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:21 pm I wonder how long it'll be before someone decides to take advantage of >95% of the Orcs army committing suicide in Ukraine ?

Another Long read

Never, that would be insanity.
That would depend on who the someone is and what manner of advantage it is they are taking.

Obviously Norway invading Russia would be insanity - but Georgia or Maldova retaking control of their borders may be less so. And then you have a plethora of internal republics with varying degrees of allegiance to Moscow. Not all together likely I don't think, but not beyond the realms of possibility either.
Precisely !

All I'd add, is that the republics that are theoretically loyal, are run by lick-spittle's who aren't generally popular, & if internal dissent started up, they'd normally call on the Orcs to help them out, or at least withdraw their Orcs from the main force, to come back home & help restore order.

Just look at Lukashenko, in Belarus !

Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:20 pm
by Hellraiser
For the matériel nerds.




Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:49 pm
by Hellraiser

Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:22 am
by tabascoboy

Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:02 am
by Hellraiser

Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:07 am
by tabascoboy
A little tangential, but WRT the alleged US led conspiracy to destroy NordStream. Read it at the link provided as it's very long and detailed with supporting images
Blowing Holes in Seymour Hersh's Pipe Dream

On the surface Seymour Hersh's story looks passable, but as you dig deeper it has more holes than the Nord Stream pipeline.

I would like to preface this post by stating that I will not be making any conclusions on who is responsible for the Nord Stream pipeline explosions in this piece. While I have my suspects, all publicly available information regarding the explosions is circumstantial and there is none that conclusively points to a specific culprit. The purpose of this post is to debunk the claims made in Seymour Hersh’s Substack post titled “How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline” using publicly available information.

In regards to Seymour Hersh’s past, both his time as a Pulitzer Price winning journalist in the 1970s and his recent factually incorrect takes on the Syria gas attacks and Skripal poisoning, I will let people like Eliot Higgins who worked on these cases give their opinion. This post will solely focus on the claims made in the recent Substack post.


The tl;dr summary

Seymour Hersh’s story would have been a lot harder to pull apart, had he decided to be more sparing with the details instead of going into depth with meaningless details that make little sense. A simpler story could have been believable, but this piece of Tom Clancy fan fiction is subpar.

Finally, through this entire detailed account there is one key thing Seymour Hersh neglects to mention or provide reasoning for. If Biden launched this operation with the express purpose of destroying Russia’s ability to supply Germany with natural gas, why only blow up three of the four Nord Stream pipelines? Why leave one of the two Nord Stream 2 pipelines intact, when they were the ones that Russia was able to open up at a moments notice.

https://oalexanderdk.substack.com/p/blo ... ershs-pipe

Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:12 pm
by fishfoodie
A top Russian official has been found dead after an apparent fall from her high-rise apartment in St Petersburg.

The body of Marina Yankina, 58, the head of finance and procurement of the Russian Defense Ministry’s Western Military District, was found by police under the windows of the tower block in the Kalininsky district, according to reports.

Russian Telegram channel Mash and other Russian media outlets reported that documents and other items belonging to Yankina were discovered on the 16th-floor balcony of the building.

Her death came a year after she demanded on-air apologies from anyone who suggested that Russia would invade Ukraine accusing strategists in London and Washington of playing a “scary, strange, wild” political game.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/r ... 60924.html

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Now she'll never receive the highest award that Ukraine can award for services to the State :razz:

Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:07 pm
by Uncle fester
Hellraiser wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:49 pm
Bit surprised they'd go to the effort of retrieving their own.

Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 9:05 am
by TB63
fishfoodie wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:12 pm
A top Russian official has been found dead after an apparent fall from her high-rise apartment in St Petersburg.

The body of Marina Yankina, 58, the head of finance and procurement of the Russian Defense Ministry’s Western Military District, was found by police under the windows of the tower block in the Kalininsky district, according to reports.

Russian Telegram channel Mash and other Russian media outlets reported that documents and other items belonging to Yankina were discovered on the 16th-floor balcony of the building.

Her death came a year after she demanded on-air apologies from anyone who suggested that Russia would invade Ukraine accusing strategists in London and Washington of playing a “scary, strange, wild” political game.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/r ... 60924.html

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Now she'll never receive the highest award that Ukraine can award for services to the State :razz:
(Stolen from Twitter) It seems Russian officials have more airtime than their Air Force..

Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 1:38 pm
by tabascoboy
This relates to an arrest made in December last, there are always scum seeking to profit from treachery
According to the German Federal Prosecutor's Office, German citizen Carsten L. was arrested on Wednesday on the basis of an arrest warrant issued by an investigating judge of the Federal Supreme Court on December 16.



Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 3:47 pm
by Niegs
Did they take a six figure sum giving coordinates of MOBILE weapon systems? :grin: I'd happily give some random locations for a suitcase full of cash if they're still paying out.

Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:08 pm
by Hellraiser
tabascoboy wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 1:38 pm This relates to an arrest made in December last, there are always scum seeking to profit from treachery
According to the German Federal Prosecutor's Office, German citizen Carsten L. was arrested on Wednesday on the basis of an arrest warrant issued by an investigating judge of the Federal Supreme Court on December 16.


Not just HIMARs, they wanted the data on the IRIS-T AA system too. Unsurprising as it has had 100% intercept rate.

Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:37 pm
by Hellraiser

Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:53 pm
by tabascoboy

Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:04 pm
by Hellraiser

Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:47 pm
by Hellraiser

Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:52 pm
by Hellraiser

Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:53 pm
by tabascoboy
Hellraiser wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:47 pm

Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:53 pm
by Hellraiser

Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:45 pm
by fishfoodie
EnergiseR2 wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 9:32 pm
Hellraiser wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:53 pm
https://files.catbox.moe/iim0yh.mp4

That's the longer version. It's pretty mad
Bizarre :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :wtf

It's like the Orcs missed the last century or so of warfare.

At least in the American Civil war, they had artillery, to support the infantry, & then in WWI they added machine guns, & tanks.

In that video we see a single Orc getting between fighting holes, & getting slaughtered like a steer because he was all on his lonesome, & there's zero support ; no machine guns, no artillery, no tanks, not even an AFV.

The Orcs are so fucked.

Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:50 pm
by _Os_
EnergiseR2 wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 9:32 pm
Hellraiser wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:53 pm
https://files.catbox.moe/iim0yh.mp4

That's the longer version. It's pretty mad
Looks like regulars, they've got high spec gear. Searching around it's apparently the 22nd Motorized Infantry Battalion, they started life in 2014 as the Kharkiv TDB (Territorial Defence Battalion, later replaced by the TDF/Territorial Defence Forces when TDBs were regularised), civilians who took up arms when Russia invaded the first time and did the heavy lifting beating Russia back (because the Ukrainian military was in such a poor state back then). They've been regularised since.

Part of 92nd Mech, which has a fearsome reputation ... as you would expect having joined battle immediately at the start of the full scale invasion where they've been ever since and are still standing a year later. They've broken whole tank armies and rifle battalions on their own. Heavy fighting like that is probably nothing to that guy by now. Madness.

When you read anodyne stuff like "Russian attacks were repulsed in xyz", fighting like that is what's actually happening.

Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 11:16 pm
by _Os_
fishfoodie wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:45 pm
EnergiseR2 wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 9:32 pm
Hellraiser wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:53 pm
https://files.catbox.moe/iim0yh.mp4

That's the longer version. It's pretty mad
Bizarre :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :wtf

It's like the Orcs missed the last century or so of warfare.

At least in the American Civil war, they had artillery, to support the infantry, & then in WWI they added machine guns, & tanks.

In that video we see a single Orc getting between fighting holes, & getting slaughtered like a steer because he was all on his lonesome, & there's zero support ; no machine guns, no artillery, no tanks, not even an AFV.

The Orcs are so fucked.
I've watched a few times, he sends RPGs into a BTR at the start and kills some guys. That's why he's throwing grenades in that direction to take out any stragglers hiding around the destroyed BTR.

He takes on a mounted infantry attack on his own and kills them all.

Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 11:44 pm
by fishfoodie
_Os_ wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 11:16 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:45 pm Bizarre :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :wtf

It's like the Orcs missed the last century or so of warfare.

At least in the American Civil war, they had artillery, to support the infantry, & then in WWI they added machine guns, & tanks.

In that video we see a single Orc getting between fighting holes, & getting slaughtered like a steer because he was all on his lonesome, & there's zero support ; no machine guns, no artillery, no tanks, not even an AFV.

The Orcs are so fucked.
I've watched a few times, he sends RPGs into a BTR at the start and kills some guys. That's why he's throwing grenades in that direction to take out any stragglers hiding around the destroyed BTR.

He takes on a mounted infantry attack on his own and kills them all.
Well I see RPGs getting fired, but I can't see what they're being aimed at, & I can't hear the rumble of engines, or someone on them rattling away on any muzzle flash they see from these BTRs ?

The lack of any signs of anyone firing on him is kinda jarring.

Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:07 am
by _Os_
fishfoodie wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 11:44 pm
_Os_ wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 11:16 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:45 pm Bizarre :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :wtf

It's like the Orcs missed the last century or so of warfare.

At least in the American Civil war, they had artillery, to support the infantry, & then in WWI they added machine guns, & tanks.

In that video we see a single Orc getting between fighting holes, & getting slaughtered like a steer because he was all on his lonesome, & there's zero support ; no machine guns, no artillery, no tanks, not even an AFV.

The Orcs are so fucked.
I've watched a few times, he sends RPGs into a BTR at the start and kills some guys. That's why he's throwing grenades in that direction to take out any stragglers hiding around the destroyed BTR.

He takes on a mounted infantry attack on his own and kills them all.
Well I see RPGs getting fired, but I can't see what they're being aimed at, & I can't hear the rumble of engines, or someone on them rattling away on any muzzle flash they see from these BTRs ?

The lack of any signs of anyone firing on him is kinda jarring.
Get it up on your biggest screen chief. :lol:

That sound for the first minute is a BTR's turret mounted 30mm auto cannon (that's my guess), you see it's muzzle flash at 30 seconds when he sends the first RPG in, it starts firing directly on his position at about 50 seconds after he fires one RPG into it (you can see the dirt getting thrown up), and he just ignores it and keeps getting his RPGs ready. He sends the second RPG in at about 1 minute you can see it hits (flash from the explosion), him and his loader shout, and there's no more auto cannon noise. Then he starts working on the dismounted infantry/crew. You can hear the Russians shouting to each other before he starts working on them. If you watch carefully you can see there's more than the one Russian caught in the open, he guns down at least two. At 4 minutes 30 seconds he eyes up the BTR again, there's at least two Russians on/around it and he sends an RPG into them.

Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:39 am
by _Os_
His TikTok has higher resolution of the first 2 minutes:
https://www.tiktok.com/@_lost_generatio ... 8060643590

Mr."_lost_generation", is who he is. Quite funny there's other vids of him manically defending other trenches with all the firepower he can get, and comments are mocking him for firing at nothing. And then 'nothing' emerged from the trees speaking Russian and carrying an AK and now he's the Ukrainian Rambo meme.

Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:45 am
by Uncle fester
Upshot of all this is that Ukraine are going to be invincible on battlefields for at least a generation.

Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:48 am
by tabascoboy

Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:31 am
by dkm57
How long before another RS Windows crash requires a reboot

Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:14 am
by tabascoboy

Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:32 am
by _Os_
EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 8:51 am
_Os_ wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:39 am His TikTok has higher resolution of the first 2 minutes:
https://www.tiktok.com/@_lost_generatio ... 8060643590

Mr."_lost_generation", is who he is. Quite funny there's other vids of him manically defending other trenches with all the firepower he can get, and comments are mocking him for firing at nothing. And then 'nothing' emerged from the trees speaking Russian and carrying an AK and now he's the Ukrainian Rambo meme.
Video gone. Presumably because of the death and shit
Do you reckon his other videos are from the same trench or a different one? If it's the same trench it shows how heavy the Russian offensive is and how some parts of the line must be struggling to hold. Not long ago the comments on his TikTok (now deleted as you say) were mocking him for videos like this.


Re: What's going on in Ukraine?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:25 pm
by Hellraiser