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Posted: **Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:24 am**

I will not interfere with your personal issues with other posters on here. I am here to talk about rugby only. I value different opinions.

Posted: **Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:28 am**

average joe wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:09 am I mean, the guy pretended to be an 18-year-old girl once so it's not beyond him.

I was the one who found him out, a hilarious moment. Sardy is a good guy and just shrugged it off.

Posted: **Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:29 am**

average joe wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:09 am That would imply that Sards is not a bad poster.

Perhaps, perhaps I've been dupped. I mean, the guy pretended to be an 18-year-old girl once so it's not beyond him. Luckily, I'm an adult and these things hardly faze me.

He is nowadays an Irish poster on PR.

Posted: **Tue Aug 15, 2023 10:44 am**

average joe wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 7:45 am
boere wors wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:44 pm
What exactly of Sards comments is considered trolling here? He has a valid point. Scotland is in good form already and by no means a walkover. It is a tough group and we have to be at our best right in the first game. Yet our latest showings haven’t installed much confidence. Only 3 weeks and 2 tests to go to get in form
I'm hesitant to waste my time to explain it to you because you parrot some of what he is posting. But I'll do it this once because I believe you're not as bad a poster even if a bit misguided, and because I have time to burn. If you look at my post, you'll notice that I didn't quote any other posts. You need to look at it just as that. A standalone post that encompasses a general theme

Let us not focus on this one point of Scotland's recent progress but address the issue that is Sards trolling. Sards, for most part, have been against everything and anything this coaching setup has done from the time they started back in 2017. I have my doubts on his motives but whatever they are, one has to consider his posting past. Whether it be provincial bias or a personal disliking in a certain player/coaches or a grudge against other posters, it all boils down to trolling anyways.

Rassie and Nienaber have been very open and clear from the get-go. If you cannot at least see the reasoning behind what they do and why they do it by now, then anything anyone says won't help.

Sards might post something now and then that resembles sanity but it's a drop in the ocean compared to the utter rubbish that he posts (a broken clock is right twice a day). And it's everywhere, each and every single South African rugby thread gets infected, it's unavoidable. So, no I'm not stalking him. I grew up with rugby and I'm a South African so naturally I'll click on these threads and read other peoples opinions. I have in the past felt it necessary to point out his bullshit to perhaps make him feel a sense of shame so that he stops, but I'm now at the point where I feel any time spent on him just feeds him.

What is absolutely hilarious is that you are being trolled by another poster whose opinion you value.....and no, I wont disclose.....that's between him and I. I TAKE IT TO THE GRAVE.
The point....you cant tell the trees from the forest and have no vokken clue what trolling actually is. I don't have time to troll some cnut that thinks he is of some importance on an internet vokken forum.....

Posted: **Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:17 pm**

South Africa: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 Canan Moodie, 13 Jesse Kriel, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Cheslin Kolbe, 10 Manie Libbok, 9 Jaden Hendrikse, 8 Jasper Wiese, 7 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 6 Siya Kolisi (captain), 5 RG Snyman, 4 Jean Kleyn, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Malcolm Marx, 1 Steven Kitshoff.
Replacements: 16 Bongi Mbonambi, 17 Ox Nche, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 Franco Mostert, 20 Marco van Staden, 21 Duane Vermeulen, 22 Grant Williams, 23 Damian Willemse

Posted: **Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:23 pm**

Fine team. 10 to 15 probably the first choice.

Posted: **Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:36 pm**

boere wors wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:23 pm Fine team. 10 to 15 probably the first choice.

With a strong set of forwards

Posted: **Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:56 pm**

Happy with that. Probably would have given Willie a rest but know that they want to work on combinations. Starting team is very white though and there must be some pressure there. Interested on how they'll manage it going forward.

Posted: **Tue Aug 15, 2023 1:18 pm**

Chilli wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:17 pm South Africa: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 Canan Moodie, 13 Jesse Kriel, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Cheslin Kolbe, 10 Manie Libbok, 9 Jaden Hendrikse, 8 Jasper Wiese, 7 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 6 Siya Kolisi (captain), 5 RG Snyman, 4 Jean Kleyn, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Malcolm Marx, 1 Steven Kitshoff.
Replacements: 16 Bongi Mbonambi, 17 Ox Nche, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 Franco Mostert, 20 Marco van Staden, 21 Duane Vermeulen, 22 Grant Williams, 23 Damian Willemse

Why do you post it here? Need to go to viewtopic.php?t=2574&start=160

Posted: **Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:23 pm**

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 1:18 pm
Chilli wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:17 pm South Africa: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 Canan Moodie, 13 Jesse Kriel, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Cheslin Kolbe, 10 Manie Libbok, 9 Jaden Hendrikse, 8 Jasper Wiese, 7 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 6 Siya Kolisi (captain), 5 RG Snyman, 4 Jean Kleyn, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Malcolm Marx, 1 Steven Kitshoff.
Replacements: 16 Bongi Mbonambi, 17 Ox Nche, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 Franco Mostert, 20 Marco van Staden, 21 Duane Vermeulen, 22 Grant Williams, 23 Damian Willemse
Why do you post it here? Need to go to viewtopic.php?t=2574&start=160

Last I checked this is a Bok fred.

I've never seen that fred thst you are posting on.

Posted: **Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:27 pm**

Geez I feel sorry for Manie. I don't know what it is but he just gets all the shit. No wonder he has confidence issues. The press is full of doubt in him. And if you just follow the Stormers supporters, and now the bok supporters, one week he is God and the next week he is the reason why the Stormers / boks lost. Maybe it's because he is a shy kind of guy who doesn't look for the camera. I will keep repeating it. Him telling everyone to leave him alone and he worked his issues out himself, is a huge testament to his commitment.
I agree with Sandstorm he needs game time, but damn I would hate to lose him to injury

Posted: **Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:45 pm**

Money had confidence issues when he played for the Bulls and $hark$ because their preferred 10s was Morne Steyn and Curwin Bosch. Dobson allow him to play his normal game and boost his confidense to make him a Springbok.

So Sards for the vokken 100000 time , stop reading kak on facebook and face the real facts !

Posted: **Wed Aug 16, 2023 11:04 am**

Wales: 15 Liam Williams, 14 Alex Cuthbert, 13 Mason Grady, 12 Johnny Williams, 11 Rio Dyer, 10 Dan Biggar, 9 Kieran Hardy, 8 Aaron Wainwright, 7 Jac Morgan (captain), 6 Dan Lydiate, 5 Will Rowlands, 4 Ben Carter, 3 Keiron Assiratti, 2 Elliot Dee, 1 Corey Domachowski.
Replacements: 16 Sam Parry, 17 Nicky Smith, 18 Henry Thomas, 19 Teddy Williams, 20 Taine Basham, 21 Tomos Williams, 22 Max Llewellyn, 23 Cai Evans.

Not that many names that I've heard of.

Wales by 12

Posted: **Wed Aug 16, 2023 11:38 am**

That front row is going to get pulverized by the Boks.

Posted: **Wed Aug 16, 2023 12:14 pm**

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:45 pm Money had confidence issues when he played for the Bulls and $hark$ because their preferred 10s was Morne Steyn and Curwin Bosch. Dobson allow him to play his normal game and boost his confidense to make him a Springbok.

So Sards for the vokken 100000 time , stop reading kak on facebook and face the real facts !

Vokof. He is not appreciated at the Stormers. FB opinions are real facts .....

Posted: **Wed Aug 16, 2023 1:29 pm**

Sards wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 12:14 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:45 pm Money had confidence issues when he played for the Bulls and $hark$ because their preferred 10s was Morne Steyn and Curwin Bosch. Dobson allow him to play his normal game and boost his confidense to make him a Springbok.

So Sards for the vokken 100000 time , stop reading kak on facebook and face the real facts !
Vokof. He is not appreciated at the Stormers. FB opinions are real facts .....

You want to play Money at Full Back?

Posted: **Thu Aug 17, 2023 12:44 pm**

Watching that bizarre press conference Eddie Jones just gave, makes me wonder what the reaction would be if it was Rassie or Jacques that told a team of journalists to "give themselves an upper cut".

He'd be crucified.

Posted: **Thu Aug 17, 2023 1:29 pm**

assfly wrote: ↑Thu Aug 17, 2023 12:44 pm Watching that bizarre press conference Eddie Jones just gave, makes me wonder what the reaction would be if it was Rassie or Jacques that told a team of journalists to "give themselves an upper cut".

He'd be crucified.

He's sure not making any friends over in Aus at the moment. If he does not get the results in the RWC, I think he'll be toast.

Posted: **Thu Aug 17, 2023 3:00 pm**

RasNaber set for the future
Naber to Leinster
Ras to Ireland

Dobson Bok coach

Posted: **Thu Aug 17, 2023 3:27 pm**

LoveOfTheGame wrote: ↑Thu Aug 17, 2023 1:29 pm
assfly wrote: ↑Thu Aug 17, 2023 12:44 pm Watching that bizarre press conference Eddie Jones just gave, makes me wonder what the reaction would be if it was Rassie or Jacques that told a team of journalists to "give themselves an upper cut".

He'd be crucified.
He's sure not making any friends over in Aus at the moment. If he does not get the results in the RWC, I think he'll be toast.

I think he is only contracted till the end of the RWC.....or that's what he indicated.

Posted: **Thu Aug 17, 2023 3:29 pm**

I am backing the boys to do the job against Wales. God help us if they don't. My only surprise is Esterhuizen not getting another run.

Posted: **Thu Aug 17, 2023 4:16 pm**

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu Aug 17, 2023 3:00 pm RasNaber set for the future
Naber to Leinster
Ras to Ireland

Stick Bok coach

Fixed.

Posted: **Thu Aug 17, 2023 4:27 pm**

If the Boks win or at least do well, then I doubt Rassie is going anywhere.

Posted: **Thu Aug 17, 2023 5:32 pm**

Rassie is contracted until 2025

I thought Eddie Jones had a contract until the RWC 2027

Posted: **Thu Aug 17, 2023 5:53 pm**

Wat ‘n debakel
net een losskakel
sy naam is Manie
Manie watnie kanie
net jammer
sy skoppe issie danie
ken jy vir Pollard
hy is nou vir jou n lanie
ma hy ganie mee samie
en ken jy vir willie
hy raak met die ref so silly
ek wetie of hy kan jollie
hy kannie mee vinnig hollie
O dan is daar nog een
sy naam is Dy-meen
ma hy kannie skoppie
nie pale nie en okkie droppie
Die manne sè Rassie is laf
want hy gebruik dalk vir Faf
dan is Kolbe ook innie ry
hy mag dalk net n kansie kry
Al wat ek wil sê
van wanner af sukkelie bokke
om n flaaihaf te hê.....

Posted: **Sat Aug 19, 2023 7:33 pm**

Didnt watch the game today... any new insights?

Posted: **Sat Aug 19, 2023 9:55 pm**

boere wors wrote: ↑Sat Aug 19, 2023 7:33 pm Didnt watch the game today... any new insights?

Mostly through bad luck we're going into a RWC without a place kicker. Still no signs of Libbok being an 80%+ place kicker. On the plus side Pollard is likely to return at some point as an injury replacement.

Which means the Boks will have to out try score opponents. Bit of a myth the Boks cannot do this, it just isn't an optimal strategy so isn't the Bok default. On the plus side, the attack is improving each match and is getting more dynamic. They were attacking and scoring for the full 80 minutes. I'm uncomfortable with this strategy, but if we've ended up with no reliable place kicker so there's not much option. If the Boks can make it to the semis it could be enough.

When Willemse came on, I think this happened: Le roux went off, Willemse played 12 with De Allende at 13, Moodie 15 and Kriel wing. Which to me looked like RWC preparation, for Willemse coming on at 12, De Allende moving to 13, Kriel going off. It's the maximum attack option. Probably also puts De Allende ahead of Andre (who is a 12 only).

Posted: **Sun Aug 20, 2023 5:45 am**

Moodie is a machine. Guaranteed starter now. Pity KLA didn't get a run too. I think they are our best 2.
But let's celebrate Moodie. Phenomenal player. Nothing fancy about his footwork but the proof is in the pudding.

Posted: **Sun Aug 20, 2023 5:45 am**

Where did Kriel played? Wing?

Posted: **Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:05 am**

Thanks. Did Manie miss a lot of kicks again? They will have to give the kicking to faf or Kolbe then probably.
I understood Os that kriel played 13, then shifted to wing later on when Willemse came on.

Posted: **Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:54 pm**

boere wors wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:05 am Thanks. Did Manie miss a lot of kicks again? They will have to give the kicking to faf or Kolbe then probably.

A lot of his kicks were in front because of all the tries under the posts, so his kicking (from memory missed 4 kicked 5) looks a bit better than it was. He put some pressure on himself by choosing to kick a penalty to end the match, and missed that one.

boere wors wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:05 am I understood Os that kriel played 13, then shifted to wing later on when Willemse came on.

That's correct.

Posted: **Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:29 pm**

Team is looking good, apart from 4 issues:

Libbok’s kicking still sub-par
Using Ox to carry. He’s too slow and doesn’t make ground.
Wiese still won’t pass. He blew 2 clear overlaps that should have been tries.
Willemse picking up too many yellow cards.

Posted: **Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:07 am**

I really must take my hat off to Kriel. I've never been a fan of him, but he's really stepped up. His speed for this try was unbelievable.

Posted: **Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:24 am**

The Boks played more expansive rugby then I'm used to. Do you guys think that's a genuine change in game plan for the RWC or was it purely because the Welsh were kak and gave then room to play like that?

Posted: **Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:49 am**

clydecloggie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:24 am The Boks played more expansive rugby then I'm used to. Do you guys think that's a genuine change in game plan for the RWC or was it purely because the Welsh were kak and gave then room to play like that?

No Faf, no box-kick. Expect more of a shite fan spectacle when he starts.

Posted: **Mon Aug 21, 2023 7:14 am**

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:49 am
clydecloggie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:24 am The Boks played more expansive rugby then I'm used to. Do you guys think that's a genuine change in game plan for the RWC or was it purely because the Welsh were kak and gave then room to play like that?
No Faf, no box-kick. Expect more of a shite fan spectacle when he starts.

This unfortunately. He'll probably get an opportunity to play this Friday against the AB's, let's hope he adds actually passing the ball from the ruck to his impressive defensive display against Arg.

Posted: **Mon Aug 21, 2023 7:19 am**

Faf will play as instructed by the coaches.

Posted: **Mon Aug 21, 2023 7:59 am**

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:29 pm Team is looking good, apart from 4 issues:

Libbok’s kicking still sub-par
Using Ox to carry. He’s too slow and doesn’t make ground.
Wiese still won’t pass. He blew 2 clear overlaps that should have been tries.
Willemse picking up too many yellow cards.

We are so lucky that wasn't called a red...head contact is worse than a Farrell shoulder charge and should have seen a lengthy ban.....I reckon they didn't see the point of a red as the game was already done before he returned.......and the Welsh didn't ask for a review.

Dodged a bullet

Posted: **Mon Aug 21, 2023 8:37 am**

clydecloggie wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:24 am The Boks played more expansive rugby then I'm used to. Do you guys think that's a genuine change in game plan for the RWC or was it purely because the Welsh were kak and gave then room to play like that?

This has been happening since last year. Look at some of the tries from our November tour, they were electric. With Willie at the back and 4 outstanding wingers (Kolbe, Mapimpi, KLA and Moodie), we've probably got the most exciting back 3 we have ever had to choose from.

Posted: **Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:03 am**

It happened exactly when Pollard became unavailable...

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