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Enjoy the game, that’s me done with rugby for a few weeks. Ludicrous decision, ludicrous game. Not interested

Anyone disputing that red clearly felt the SBW red in 2nd lions test was also harsh.

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:49 pm That’s an absolute disgrace, unbelievably pathetic stuff. Just give them the game if that’s how we’re going to play

What a thick fecker. He had the temerity to complain as well
High dangerous and stupid.
No not LD this time.

Big D wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:49 pm I don't think he meant harm but think the ref is right as per laws.

Yeah, happy to debate a yellow card as it was probably more reflex than intent, but I guess it's tricky territory when refs are guessing as to player's intent.

Grand Slam*

That's probably the worst ref decision I've seen, in an era of awful decisions.

C69 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:52 pm

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:49 pm That’s an absolute disgrace, unbelievably pathetic stuff. Just give them the game if that’s how we’re going to play

What a thick fecker. He had the temerity to complain as well
High dangerous and stupid.
No not LD this time.

Fuck off, you’d have whined for years if Wales had had that

Its something thats absolutely fine in real time.

He's also been penalised for being a shitebag.

Oh dear there will now have to be an asterisk by Irelands Grand Slam.

High degree of danger my arse!!

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:54 pm

C69 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:52 pm

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:49 pm That’s an absolute disgrace, unbelievably pathetic stuff. Just give them the game if that’s how we’re going to play

What a thick fecker. He had the temerity to complain as well
High dangerous and stupid.
No not LD this time.

Fuck off, you’d have whined for years if Wales had had that

Not where player safety is concerned princess.
The game will die if head shots are allowed.
Look at the group actions being taken atm by players with dementia.
I am on the side of player safety. I have seen professionally what happens to head contacts.

Definite red card.

There’s nothing in this at all, we probably would have faded in the last 20 anyway. What a waste, what a farce, you can’t play rugby like this

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:55 pm Lads the red is not that fucking controversial

Spot on as usual ER.

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:55 pm Lads the red is not that fucking controversial

It fucking should be it was a nothing!!

My objection is there is nothing Stewart could have done different.

Also Genge penalty that led to Irelands try was utterly mystifying , just bizarre

tc27 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:59 pm My objection is there is nothing Stewart could have done different.

He's turned himself that shape.

tc27 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:59 pm My objection is there is nothing Stewart could have done different.

Correct

Big D wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:01 pm

tc27 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:59 pm My objection is there is nothing Stewart could have done different.

He's turned himself that shape.

The whistle had been blown for knock on he was protecting himself from a player running into him.

C69 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:58 pm

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:55 pm Lads the red is not that fucking controversial

Spot on as usual ER.

Louw’s fault for throwing such a shithouse pass that Keenan had to turn and grovel to collect it.

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:01 pm

tc27 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:59 pm My objection is there is nothing Stewart could have done different.

Don't go for the ball and certainly don't turn I'm with your shoulder to brace into his head. This stuff is not complicated anymore

His shape was lead by going for the ball.


So the advice is not to go for the ball?

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:01 pm

tc27 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:59 pm My objection is there is nothing Stewart could have done different.

Don't go for the ball and certainly don't turn I'm with your shoulder to brace into his head. This stuff is not complicated anymore

Duty of care, standing up and elbow to head. Dangerous end of.

Clearest red by the laws of the game.

Peiper has always been an absolute shocking ref

tc27 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:59 pm My objection is there is nothing Stewart could have done different.

It was more like a brace for impact. Surely there was mitigation in that the Irisher was so low.

He probably should not have turned side on to that collision though, that was how he might have avoided it.

tc27 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:59 pm My objection is there is nothing Stewart could have done different.

Well, he could've committed to making a tackle. Even if Keenan never gathered the ball and Steward was thus tackling a man without it, that's a penalty only offence.

There's certainly an argument that maybe it should be a yellow, rather than a red, not least for Keenan's height/body position, but Steward chose to come steaming in towards a player not clearly in possession of the ball and made a late decision to brace for contact rather than make a tackle. It's a reckless action the outcome of which is not really under his control.

Red all fucking day. Stop digging.

tc27 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:59 pm My objection is there is nothing Stewart could have done different.

Well he could have not closed the gap to the point where wasn't going to be able to carry out a legal tackle ?

He was left with the choice of being fact to fact & probably having a head-on-head incident, result Red Card; or what he did, & turning, & shouldering the attacking player in the head, result Red Card.

Openside wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:02 pm

Big D wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:01 pm

tc27 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:59 pm My objection is there is nothing Stewart could have done different.

He's turned himself that shape.

The whistle had been blown for knock on he was protecting himself from a player running into him.

Fair point. If Keenan had run into Steward’s hip and sparked out, ref would have blown for the scrum.

Openside wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:02 pm

Big D wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:01 pm

tc27 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:59 pm My objection is there is nothing Stewart could have done different.

He's turned himself that shape.

The whistle had been blown for knock on he was protecting himself from a player running into him.

Except the ball was still live and play continued.

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:58 pm

Openside wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:57 pm Oh dear there will now have to be an asterisk by Irelands Grand Slam.

High degree of danger my arse!!

Elbow to the head. Are you all on the wind up

Ffs he didn’t lead with his elbow it was beside his body Keenan was running head down. I am not one of the rugby is going soft brigade but I find that decision mystifying it didn’t happen at speed that is at worst a YC but rugby incident for me.

Pound to a penny there will be no ban .

Keenan off, poor lad. I hope he is ok.
He may be back on soon. Anyone's game tbh.

They made the decision because of the day it is. What a joke

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:04 pm

Openside wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:02 pm

Big D wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:01 pm

He's turned himself that shape.

The whistle had been blown for knock on he was protecting himself from a player running into him.

Fair point. If Keenan had run into Steward’s hip and sparked out, ref would have blown for the scrum.

The ball was live.

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:01 pm

tc27 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:59 pm My objection is there is nothing Stewart could have done different.

don't turn I'm with your shoulder to brace into his head.

That’s it for me.

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:06 pm They made the decision because of the day it is. What a joke

No just no.

Glacial ball from the ruck.

tc27 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:59 pm My objection is there is nothing Stewart could have done different.

Other than not turn sideways and present his shoulder?

Faz at 15

Ireland gonna kick the leather off the ball

Openside and the Bear going full Dallaglio.

Never go full Dallaglio