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Tichtheid wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:07 pm
Yr Alban wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:02 pm
And 1 guest wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:52 pm Aye. We coughed up blood to beat England then Wales put 40 points on them without doing anything special. And then we play Ireland who can strangle everything we try to do.
We did play England away, where we are renowned for choking. Ireland and Wales haven’t had the same mental block about it in recent years. I’m still marvelling slightly that when we play at Twickenham in 2023, it will be a full six years since England beat us there!

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Tichtheid wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:54 pm
Yr Alban wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:39 pm Anyone else feeling despondent that we can’t get anywhere close to a trophy no matter what, and Wales have basically won a Triple Crown by accident?

Wales will get battered in Paris. I think we are a better side than they are just now, but we are used to losing and they have had a good run of success over the last 20 years.

Our best players are not in the over 30s bracket and we have some serious talent coming up in the 20 year old sort of age group. So overall I'm not despondent, not yet
Yeah, I’m probably there or thereabouts. That Wales game was horrible but we are a decent team
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Ah lads, they're still in it. Once they've pumped France and Italy and they've both pumped Wales (assuming, of course, its not 14 v 15 or 15 v 16 😉) we'll be dancing in the streets. And by the time the France game is done we'll be allowed to.
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Slick wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 12:24 am
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:54 pm
Yr Alban wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:39 pm Anyone else feeling despondent that we can’t get anywhere close to a trophy no matter what, and Wales have basically won a Triple Crown by accident?

Wales will get battered in Paris. I think we are a better side than they are just now, but we are used to losing and they have had a good run of success over the last 20 years.

Our best players are not in the over 30s bracket and we have some serious talent coming up in the 20 year old sort of age group. So overall I'm not despondent, not yet
Yeah, I’m probably there or thereabouts. That Wales game was horrible but we are a decent team
Yeah we could've beat Wales but for just appalling discipline.

However we've said Wales will get pumped everyweek. They're clearly a decent enough team. Even with the unbelievable luck they get. Luck Vs England that is. Scotland and Ireland did it to themselves.
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Wales were already back in the game with the momentum in their favour when ZF lost his head.

Wales know how to win games and we don't bar the odd one or two. They have had bits of luck but there are things they have done very well.

I would take a triple crown any way we could get it. Something we haven't done in 31 years.
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Big D wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:27 am Wales were already back in the game with the momentum in their favour when ZF lost his head.

Wales know how to win games and we don't bar the odd one or two. They have had bits of luck but there are things they have done very well.

I would take a triple crown any way we could get it. Something we haven't done in 31 years.
Maybe they were, but despite us playing a man short for 30 mins, Wales won by a single point, and if a penalty had been called correctly on the final passage of play when Hogg was impeded, I have no doubt we would have won.

It isn’t Wales’s fault that Ireland and Scotland had players sent off, or that the referee yesterday made some howlingly bad decisions. But it’s undeniable that their Triple Crown has been delivered thanks to some outrageously good fortune.
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Yr Alban wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 2:54 pm
Big D wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:27 am Wales were already back in the game with the momentum in their favour when ZF lost his head.

Wales know how to win games and we don't bar the odd one or two. They have had bits of luck but there are things they have done very well.

I would take a triple crown any way we could get it. Something we haven't done in 31 years.
Maybe they were, but despite us playing a man short for 30 mins, Wales won by a single point, and if a penalty had been called correctly on the final passage of play when Hogg was impeded, I have no doubt we would have won.

It isn’t Wales’s fault that Ireland and Scotland had players sent off, or that the referee yesterday made some howlingly bad decisions. But it’s undeniable that their Triple Crown has been delivered thanks to some outrageously good fortune.
We gave away a big lead in that game before then and hadn't looked like scoring except for Hogg's try. There's no guarantee we would have won that.

It's too easy to say it is just luck. You still need to take full advantage of it. Agaisnt us they were the better side at the time of the red card and they were better than England yesterday.

My point stands, they often find ways to win and we don't. We shouldn't have been relying on the ref maybe giving a penalty. We had plenty chance to win that game but still found a way to lose.
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Nakarawa a bit of a knock on machine right now.
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If the Glasgow game wasn’t over at 21-7 down it is now. Hastings sent off for kicking Kelleher in the face while catching a high ball. 🤦‍♂️
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KingBlairhorn wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:22 pm If the Glasgow game wasn’t over at 21-7 down it is now. Hastings sent off for kicking Kelleher in the face while catching a high ball. 🤦‍♂️
Trying to find the motivation to continue and watch the 2nd half.
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C T wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:27 pm
KingBlairhorn wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:22 pm If the Glasgow game wasn’t over at 21-7 down it is now. Hastings sent off for kicking Kelleher in the face while catching a high ball. 🤦‍♂️
Trying to find the motivation to continue and watch the 2nd half.
Here’s 2:

Nakarawa is off at half time.
Glasgow’s only points came a man down in the first half!
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Aye, there you go. Rufus McLean scored on the first play of the second half!
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KingBlairhorn wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:37 pm
C T wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:27 pm
KingBlairhorn wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:22 pm If the Glasgow game wasn’t over at 21-7 down it is now. Hastings sent off for kicking Kelleher in the face while catching a high ball. 🤦‍♂️
Trying to find the motivation to continue and watch the 2nd half.
Here’s 2:

Nakarawa is off at half time.
Glasgow’s only points came a man down in the first half!
I like your thinking! Good start to the half as well.
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KingBlairhorn wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:39 pm Aye, there you go. Rufus McLean scored on the first play of the second half!
Lol, and another, this time for Cole Forbes I think. 7 point game now.
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C T wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:13 pm Nakarawa a bit of a knock on machine right now.
Fat and uninterested. A total embarrassment.
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I like neeps wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:48 pm
C T wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:13 pm Nakarawa a bit of a knock on machine right now.
Fat and uninterested. A total embarrassment.
2021 Nakarawa thinks he’s 2015 Nakarawa.
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KingBlairhorn wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:47 pm
KingBlairhorn wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:39 pm Aye, there you go. Rufus McLean scored on the first play of the second half!
Lol, and another, this time for Cole Forbes I think. 7 point game now.
Terrible lack of faith from me!
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KingBlairhorn wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:22 pm If the Glasgow game wasn’t over at 21-7 down it is now. Hastings sent off for kicking Kelleher in the face while catching a high ball. 🤦‍♂️
Well I might have been wrong before, but Glasgow will go through the last 10 down to 13. NOW it’s over.
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Glasgow have some promising young players coming through. We'll call this season a changing of the guard.
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I’m impressed that they fought back to within a score with 14 on the pitch. The game’s a bogey once you’re down to 13 though, as we saw in Cardiff in 2010 with the amazing ‘comeback’.
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Some top performances from the young lads despite the circumstances. Dobie excellent, Forbes and McLean excellent, good cameos from Thompson and Brown. A strangely positive game for the score line.

Gray Snr is still a player, and Tom Gordon might be Hamish Watson reborn.

Looking forward to seeing what this lot can do over the next few years. This might have the makings of another stellar Glasgow side.
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Yr Alban wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:27 pm I’m impressed that they fought back to within a score with 14 on the pitch. The game’s a bogey once you’re down to 13 though, as we saw in Cardiff in 2010 with the amazing ‘comeback’.
The one rule of the Scottish rugby thread should be don't talk about Cardiff 2010. The second rule of the Scottish rugby thread should be do not talk about Cardiff 2010.
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KingBlairhorn wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:40 pm Some top performances from the young lads despite the circumstances. Dobie excellent, Forbes and McLean excellent, good cameos from Thompson and Brown. A strangely positive game for the score line.

Gray Snr is still a player, and Tom Gordon might be Hamish Watson reborn.

Looking forward to seeing what this lot can do over the next few years. This might have the makings of another stellar Glasgow side.
A real curates egg of a game for Glasgow; all kinds of positives mixed with the bad bits. The 2nd YC was another meathead card; & with the game still in Glasgows grasp; or at least bonus points.

With Leinsters depth on show on their side; the performance of the Scottish guys, after a horrible start, was a good to see.
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I like neeps wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:53 pm
Yr Alban wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:27 pm I’m impressed that they fought back to within a score with 14 on the pitch. The game’s a bogey once you’re down to 13 though, as we saw in Cardiff in 2010 with the amazing ‘comeback’.
The one rule of the Scottish rugby thread should be don't talk about Cardiff 2010. The second rule of the Scottish rugby thread should be do not talk about Cardiff 2010.
That was the case before, but now we have finally won away to Wales I think we have laid that bogey. Yes, it wasn’t in Cardiff and it was at a weird time of year. So what? Neither of those things was our fault.
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Glasgow add another under-the-radar Scottish-qualified signing with Sione Tuipulotu.

Not too many Super Rugby appearances under his belt but turned out a decent amount for the Australian u20s by the looks of things.
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Of course a guy called Tuipolotou has a granny from Wishaw - how could he not?

Amazing find, even if he turns out to be rubbish.
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clydecloggie wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:53 pm Of course a guy called Tuipolotou has a granny from Wishaw - how could he not?

Amazing find, even if he turns out to be rubbish.

I think my favourite name, part from IrnDru, is when Jade Te Rure came over to Edinburgh from New Zealand, injury did for him, but he gained the nickname Jade Te Ruaridh
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clydecloggie wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:53 pm Of course a guy called Tuipolotou has a granny from Wishaw - how could he not?

Amazing find, even if he turns out to be rubbish.
It is truly amazing that a guy from the South Island named McKay isn’t SQ, but this guy is! There you go. The more the merrier, though what would make me really happy would be if they could unearth another SQ international class tighthead.
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clydecloggie wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:53 pm
Amazing find, even if he turns out to be rubbish.
I actually suspect that scouting is getting easier for the SRU. Players may be more likely to come forward of their own volition as the prospect of playing for Scotland is probably more attractive now that there's more to look forward to than battling it out with Italy for the wooden spoon in the 6 Nations. Glasgow and Edinburgh have probably developed better playing reputations as well.
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robmatic wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:09 am
clydecloggie wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:53 pm
Amazing find, even if he turns out to be rubbish.
I actually suspect that scouting is getting easier for the SRU. Players may be more likely to come forward of their own volition as the prospect of playing for Scotland is probably more attractive now that there's more to look forward to than battling it out with Italy for the wooden spoon in the 6 Nations. Glasgow and Edinburgh have probably developed better playing reputations as well.
Makes sense, build it and they will come.
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robmatic wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:09 am
clydecloggie wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:53 pm
Amazing find, even if he turns out to be rubbish.
I actually suspect that scouting is getting easier for the SRU. Players may be more likely to come forward of their own volition as the prospect of playing for Scotland is probably more attractive now that there's more to look forward to than battling it out with Italy for the wooden spoon in the 6 Nations. Glasgow and Edinburgh have probably developed better playing reputations as well.
I think the pro teams will have a reputation of looking after their players well too, particularly Scottish qualified ones.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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TheNatalShark wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:52 am
robmatic wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:09 am
clydecloggie wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:53 pm
Amazing find, even if he turns out to be rubbish.
I actually suspect that scouting is getting easier for the SRU. Players may be more likely to come forward of their own volition as the prospect of playing for Scotland is probably more attractive now that there's more to look forward to than battling it out with Italy for the wooden spoon in the 6 Nations. Glasgow and Edinburgh have probably developed better playing reputations as well.
Makes sense, build it and they will come.
Not really sure this is true. He looks an interesting prospect sure but how good is a player who can't make it in the Australian game? It's not a strong club scene over there. It's a good roll of the dice for players who want to get international honours.

I like the look of Forbes as NZ under20s is very strong but he wasn't getting much mitre 10 gametime. And Conor De Bruyne in the Glasgow academy was in the SA under18s 7s squad so must have some ability. Savala a league convert to union is interesting too. But they're all outside bets.

It's not as if we have Sean Maitland coming over. And he did when we were absolutely crap.
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What happened to the young suffering Centre at embra? He must be there now, no?
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Jock42 wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:05 am What happened to the young suffering Centre at embra? He must be there now, no?
Sometimes spellcheck is scarily accurate!

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dpedin wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:12 am
Jock42 wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:05 am What happened to the young suffering Centre at embra? He must be there now, no?
Sometimes spellcheck is scarily accurate!

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Edinburgh are teasing a new signing on Twitter. Former age-grade star, premiership experience and "certified lightning" :think:
So I squares up, casual like.
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Was just coming on to ask if anyone had ideas as to who it could be?
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Jock42 wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:56 am Was just coming on to ask if anyone had ideas as to who it could be?
Just announced, it's Ben Vellacott.
So I squares up, casual like.
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Begbie wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:02 am
Jock42 wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:56 am Was just coming on to ask if anyone had ideas as to who it could be?
Just announced, it's Ben Vellacott.
Groom is moving on isn't he?

EDIT: I assume he'll get involved with Scotland now
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Jock42 wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:08 am
Begbie wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:02 am
Jock42 wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:56 am Was just coming on to ask if anyone had ideas as to who it could be?
Just announced, it's Ben Vellacott.
Groom is moving on isn't he?

EDIT: I assume he'll get involved with Scotland now

I hadn't heard that about Groom moving on.
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