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paddyor wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:52 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:12 pm

PornDog wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:09 pm

He's by a good distance the biggest whingeing twat across either bored. Even worse than the Saffa loons. I don't thunk he actually watches the rugby, just the refs through his one good eye.

Fucking tedious is right.

More quality reffing for you to digest

That’s not a yellow.

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 7:52 am Bollox. Good hard man's tackle. We have got ragdolled a few times hence why we have one Heino in 10 years. More of the same from Porter thank you very much only next time stand over him shouting obscenities

TheFrog wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 8:25 pm By the scale of Toulouse 's spanking, I am worried about France's prospect at the world cup.

La Rochelle made it to the Final thanks to its imported beef.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 8:37 pm

TheFrog wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 8:25 pm By the scale of Toulouse 's spanking, I am worried about France's prospect at the world cup.

La Rochelle made it to the Final thanks to its imported beef.

Nah.

Toulouse were hit with a preventable error with the 6:2 split, that left them having to move the best SH out of position, & spent the rest of match suffering from not having a utility back on the bench.

There's always a really good chance you'll need to go to Plan B in a top level game, & the Toulouse coaches fucked up by going with the bigger cattle approach, when they started with a ~70kg advantage in the pack.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 3:53 pm Wrong incidents. The feed I had said RTE but your point is probably valid i.e. TMO has own feed so all the bluster about Fre broadcasters not showing replays should be irrelevant.

Biffer wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:28 am Well, regardless of all that pish I think the two best teams in the competition are in the final. Should be a belter, just wish it was on neutral ground.

paddyor wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 3:48 pm

Biffer wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:28 am Well, regardless of all that pish I think the two best teams in the competition are in the final. Should be a belter, just wish it was on neutral ground.

It'd be a nuetral ground if Ulster Leicester or Toulouse had knocked us out.

Biffer wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 12:08 am

paddyor wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 3:48 pm

Biffer wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:28 am Well, regardless of all that pish I think the two best teams in the competition are in the final. Should be a belter, just wish it was on neutral ground.

It'd be a nuetral ground if Ulster Leicester or Toulouse had knocked us out.

And that has no relevance to the point. Usual dickhead Irish comment. DuR wE jUsT tWo GuD fIr DeM. Try to have a worthwhile opinion rather than wanking into your own coffee occasionally.

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 6:35 am

Biffer wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 12:08 am

paddyor wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 3:48 pm
It'd be a nuetral ground if Ulster Leicester or Toulouse had knocked us out.

And that has no relevance to the point. Usual dickhead Irish comment. DuR wE jUsT tWo GuD fIr DeM. Try to have a worthwhile opinion rather than wanking into your own coffee occasionally.

You mean Leinster. The rest of us are sound.

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 6:58 am

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 6:35 am

Biffer wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 12:08 am

And that has no relevance to the point. Usual dickhead Irish comment. DuR wE jUsT tWo GuD fIr DeM. Try to have a worthwhile opinion rather than wanking into your own coffee occasionally.

You mean Leinster. The rest of us are sound.

It's not even all Leinster, I've known a fair few folk from Skerries and they are sound too.

There does seem to be a bit of a nervous tick when it comes to some fans online. I took Biffer's original post to mean that a neutral venue would make for an even more interesting contest between two fantastic sides.
Home advantage counts for a heck of a lot.
It didn't seem like a dig at Leinster or even the set up of the competition to me.

Biffer wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 7:24 am

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 6:58 am

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 6:35 am

You mean Leinster. The rest of us are sound.

It's not even all Leinster, I've known a fair few folk from Skerries and they are sound too.

There does seem to be a bit of a nervous tick when it comes to some fans online. I took Biffer's original post to mean that a neutral venue would make for an even more interesting contest between two fantastic sides.
Home advantage counts for a heck of a lot.
It didn't seem like a dig at Leinster or even the set up of the competition to me.

That was exactly my point, but some Irish preciousness immediately jumped in.

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 6:31 am What's this thing about our fans being nobs anyway. Where? On Facebook with all the other international nobs? Never saw it on PR and in fact we are too magnanimous and prone to following whatever trend like 'Dupont is actually the best player that ever lived with a head the same size as his torso'.

Biffer wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 7:24 am

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 6:58 am

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 6:35 am

You mean Leinster. The rest of us are sound.

It's not even all Leinster, I've known a fair few folk from Skerries and they are sound too.

There does seem to be a bit of a nervous tick when it comes to some fans online. I took Biffer's original post to mean that a neutral venue would make for an even more interesting contest between two fantastic sides.
Home advantage counts for a heck of a lot.
It didn't seem like a dig at Leinster or even the set up of the competition to me.

That was exactly my point, but some Irish preciousness immediately jumped in.

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 8:03 am

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 7:54 am

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 6:31 am What's this thing about our fans being nobs anyway. Where? On Facebook with all the other international nobs? Never saw it on PR and in fact we are too magnanimous and prone to following whatever trend like 'Dupont is actually the best player that ever lived with a head the same size as his torso'.

If you couldn't see any Irish being dickheads on PR then you'll never see it!

It was massively overplayed by lads like you. Just repeated again and again and again when there wasn't much evidence for it bar some piss taking. Now we have cycled into a 2018 like good period we are in the crosshairs and that is fine. I will say I don't frequent anywhere online outside of here really these days but saw some of the Irish lads having a go off the womens Irish rugby on social media and its been bottom feeding stuff. So yeah there may now be a sizeable element of cunts spread far and wide. World is fucked with all this culture wars fuckology. Murdoch should be hung drawn and quartered

Biffer wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 7:24 am

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 6:58 am

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 6:35 am

You mean Leinster. The rest of us are sound.

It's not even all Leinster, I've known a fair few folk from Skerries and they are sound too.

There does seem to be a bit of a nervous tick when it comes to some fans online. I took Biffer's original post to mean that a neutral venue would make for an even more interesting contest between two fantastic sides.
Home advantage counts for a heck of a lot.
It didn't seem like a dig at Leinster or even the set up of the competition to me.

That was exactly my point, but some Irish preciousness immediately jumped in.

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 8:04 am

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 7:57 am

Biffer wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 7:24 am

That was exactly my point, but some Irish preciousness immediately jumped in.

Leinster.
I will keep correcting you until you acknowledge.

Munster were and are always the really grating twiddle dee fans. Make everyone sick Fester though as noted you are more a true blue royal

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 9:37 am

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 8:04 am

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 7:57 am

Leinster.
I will keep correcting you until you acknowledge.

Munster were and are always the really grating twiddle dee fans. Make everyone sick Fester though as noted you are more a true blue royal

We were and remain loveable scamps who knew the good times wouldn't last.

Leinster fans on the other hand think they are the rugby equivalent of a thousand year Reich.

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'Even staunch Blues now fear a hiding'
IN THE RED CORNER: Three years ago Munster fan NIALL KIELY found it hard to be humble when faced with Leinster's delusions…
Sat May 2 2009 - 01:00
IN THE RED CORNER:Three years ago Munster fan NIALL KIELY found it hard to be humble when faced with Leinster's delusions of adequacy. Today, he says it is impossible to be humble and much easier to be patronising.

DREADFUL CANARDS and shameful slights are doing the rounds of Munster textland this weekend. Sly, sleekit, faux-innocent questions. This column agonised through a dark night of the soul before it became obvious that in our Information Age, it would be venal to break an SMS joke-chain. Thus:

Question one: What do you call a Leinster supporter in Europe after May 2nd?

Question two: Felipe Contepomi said what to the garda who caught him speeding?

READ MORE

Question three: What do General Pinochet and Leinster have in common? (Answers at the end.)

Seriously, though. Now that we’ve finalised the Larne- Stranraer bookings, I suppose the Croke Park business must be got through somehow. It might even prove a semi-decent warm-up for Edinburgh, though the suspicion lingers that a team with more need in the gut than Leinster might lay down a stiffer test.

Why has the gap widened to the extent that even staunch Blues are sweating bricks, and (the honest ones) now fear a hiding?

Liverpool would be pleased if their Boot Room succession- model of old was still delivering Munster-smooth continuity. In Leinster, Michael “Butch” Cheika and his Sundance farceur, David Knox, strutted into town and inherited a pretty decent, albeit soft-centred squad. What’s been developed in the years since?

Frankly, not much. Importing instant-fix, High Veldt muscle isn’t going to provide either a medium or long-term solution – given a pack that still doesn’t get the difference between “want” and “need” to win – and gives not even immediate succour when any bought-in, beef-to-the-heel Boer heifer has Achilles’ hooves.

The organisation? It gave us the farce of Felipe Contepomi’s cocked-up original registration. It managed to let slip easily the best outhalf package it ever had: neat, unshowy David Holwell, who looked the playmaker most likely to let slip the hounds of O’Driscoll and D’Arcy. Even the daft loss of press officer Pat Geraghty has been Munster’s considerable gain. And as for Isa Nacewa: Lord, have mercy.

Last month’s ticketing debacle? Leinster rushed into sales, made a mess of that, as well as the aftermath of the Ticketmaster fiasco. Some genius then tried to strong-arm the province’s clubs with dire threat of consequence should Reds appear in “Blue” seating: ye gods. And the clubs were short-changed and left angry over their miserly allocations.

The Leinster playing style? To the external tracker, there’s evident spoor of internal dissonance. Is the “Real Leinster” the team which wiped Wasps off the RDS pitch, or the side which limped through the later ERC pool games – or is it the limp lot who went down tamely, home and away, to Munster in the Magners?

How can dependable, all-weather gameplans evolve with a unbiddable head-banger at outhalf; a superannuated Aussie crabbing inconsequentially at scrumhalf and a backrow lacking either a linking rover (sin of omission: Keith Gleeson was deaf to all pay or persuasion to give it a Johnny Logan?) or a lethal lumberjack (one of commission: non-selection of Seán O’Brien).

And contrast the disaffection among Leinster clubs with Munster Rugby. Munster Rugby has the goodwill of its provincial clubs. Not just the top-table Shannons, Garryowens, Cork Cons – it’s just as much the nascent likes of Cashel, the Castleislands and Carrick-on- Suirs. Most people I know in Leinster junior rugby are Munster supporters by inclination: they relate to a genuine entity that well represents them abroad. Chapters of Reds in Connacht, Ulster and across the diaspora have viscerally connected to a noble concept: a group of sportsmen has truly earned the troth of its motley; and a roiling terrace knows its faith is acknowledged in kind.

Reggie Corrigan had a weekend slap at “Lunsters” – Jonathan-come-latelies turned Redcoats. Some may of course be prawn-sandwich opportunists, but the vast majority I reckon became disenchanted over bitter years on the concrete steps of Donnybrook by the fundamentally uncaring “performance” of so-called professionals who simply couldn’t be arsed.

Appreciation of Munster’s simple virtues is now widespread. The text questions above came from Llanelli stalwarts. They know their rugby, their captain for years has been the revered Simon Easterby – who in his prime would have dovetailed seamlessly with most Munster backrows – and they are envious but admiring aficionados of the Munster project. The Scarlets even “get” Leinster: they’ve got their local ladyboys, the Neath-Swansea Ospreys. As my Llanelli friend Dewi might put it: “Niall bach, our Ashtrays are just like your Leinster – all fur coat and no knickers.”

One feels sorry for Leinster diehards – almost – and those three-quarter thoroughbreds. Just a couple of Magners from that sleek slew of gilded genius, lads? As Felipe might say: Jesús,

María y José!

But it’s really, genuinely not just about results. We’ve been to Lille and back, suffered the Backhand. Folks, it’s this simple: we Reds love the magnificent gestalt that is our Munster, we care deeply for these people who have leavened our quotidians with joy and brio and serious fun, we have endless time for our players who viscerally reciprocate our ardour.

Soon after seven o’clock this evening, the ultimate Red shout of the evening will succumb to susurrus, and in that fine sibilance will resonate our most recent epiphany. Bless these men.

And the answers: 1 A tourist; 2 At this stage, I’ll do anything for points; 3 Both gather people in stadiums and torture them.

Niall Kiely is a former Irish Timesjournalist and contributes to RTÉ's What it Says in the Paper

PornDog wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 9:33 am

Biffer wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 7:24 am

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 6:58 am



It's not even all Leinster, I've known a fair few folk from Skerries and they are sound too.

There does seem to be a bit of a nervous tick when it comes to some fans online. I took Biffer's original post to mean that a neutral venue would make for an even more interesting contest between two fantastic sides.
Home advantage counts for a heck of a lot.
It didn't seem like a dig at Leinster or even the set up of the competition to me.

That was exactly my point, but some Irish preciousness immediately jumped in.

TBF, there's a lot of bleating about Leinster having an unfair advantage getting home ties, when there was no such bleating when La Rochelle and Toulouse had actual home stadium (not home country, but their own actual home stadia) semi final ties in 2021, or Exeter had in 2020. Not a peep out of anyone.

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 9:51 am I am happy with thousand year Reich. Snappy uniforms

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 10:15 am

PornDog wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 9:33 am

Biffer wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 7:24 am

That was exactly my point, but some Irish preciousness immediately jumped in.

TBF, there's a lot of bleating about Leinster having an unfair advantage getting home ties, when there was no such bleating when La Rochelle and Toulouse had actual home stadium (not home country, but their own actual home stadia) semi final ties in 2021, or Exeter had in 2020. Not a peep out of anyone.

Did no one say that the home team would have an advantage in those games, not one single person?

For the record, La Rochelle's upcoming fixture list is Leinster away in the Euro final, their Top 14 fixtures before the knock outs are; Toulon away, Montpellier away and Stade Francais at home. Each of these teams are jockeying for position for the play offs.

Leinster's likely run in for the remainder of the season is La Rochelle at home in the Euros, Sharks at home in the league 1/4, Glasgow or Munster at home in the 1/2 and one of Stormers, Bulls, Ulster or Connacht at home in the final

They're not breaking any rules, but in a game where the elite matches can be decided by the smallest of things, I don't see the problem with pointing out the fact that Leinster have a great chance of the double, especially with how the fixtures play out.

Personally I'd love it if Edinburgh were in that position, I wouldn't start roarin and greetin about others saying our cause is helped by playing all the games in Edinburgh, there is no asterisk put beside the record depending on where the game is played.

CM11 wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 12:01 pm

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 10:15 am

PornDog wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 9:33 am

TBF, there's a lot of bleating about Leinster having an unfair advantage getting home ties, when there was no such bleating when La Rochelle and Toulouse had actual home stadium (not home country, but their own actual home stadia) semi final ties in 2021, or Exeter had in 2020. Not a peep out of anyone.

Did no one say that the home team would have an advantage in those games, not one single person?

For the record, La Rochelle's upcoming fixture list is Leinster away in the Euro final, their Top 14 fixtures before the knock outs are; Toulon away, Montpellier away and Stade Francais at home. Each of these teams are jockeying for position for the play offs.

Leinster's likely run in for the remainder of the season is La Rochelle at home in the Euros, Sharks at home in the league 1/4, Glasgow or Munster at home in the 1/2 and one of Stormers, Bulls, Ulster or Connacht at home in the final

They're not breaking any rules, but in a game where the elite matches can be decided by the smallest of things, I don't see the problem with pointing out the fact that Leinster have a great chance of the double, especially with how the fixtures play out.

Personally I'd love it if Edinburgh were in that position, I wouldn't start roarin and greetin about others saying our cause is helped by playing all the games in Edinburgh, there is no asterisk put beside the record depending on where the game is played.

No one has said we don't have an advantage.

It's the bleating about how it's so unfair that's the problem.

The irony of course being that we (the Irish) weren't in favour of any changes to the comp 10 years ago yet those changes have led to the situation where we've four knockouts in a row in our home city.

CM11 wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 12:21 pm It's a general theme, being led by the English media.

You can't guarantee the finalists (last two in Lansdowne were all French affairs) so no point even discussing it.

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 12:23 pm

CM11 wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 12:21 pm It's a general theme, being led by the English media.

You can't guarantee the finalists (last two in Lansdowne were all French affairs) so no point even discussing it.

No one here is discussing it (the unfairness of it all) except you guys.

PornDog wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 12:29 pm

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 12:23 pm

CM11 wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 12:21 pm It's a general theme, being led by the English media.

You can't guarantee the finalists (last two in Lansdowne were all French affairs) so no point even discussing it.

No one here is discussing it (the unfairness of it all) except you guys.

Biffer felt agrieved because he felt an Irish poster was taking offence at his reference to 'nuetral ground'. I explained why we're currently a bit sensitive about this and are pissed off at the bullshit narrative emanating from the English media - whether it exists on this forum or not is not exactly the point.

Biffer wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 12:08 am

paddyor wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 3:48 pm

Biffer wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:28 am Well, regardless of all that pish I think the two best teams in the competition are in the final. Should be a belter, just wish it was on neutral ground.

It'd be a nuetral ground if Ulster Leicester or Toulouse had knocked us out.

And that has no relevance to the point. Usual dickhead Irish comment. DuR wE jUsT tWo GuD fIr DeM. Try to have a worthwhile opinion rather than wanking into your own coffee occasionally.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 8:37 pm

TheFrog wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 8:25 pm By the scale of Toulouse 's spanking, I am worried about France's prospect at the world cup.

La Rochelle made it to the Final thanks to its imported beef.

Nah.

Toulouse were hit with a preventable error with the 6:2 split, that left them having to move the best SH out of position, & spent the rest of match suffering from not having a utility back on the bench.

There's always a really good chance you'll need to go to Plan B in a top level game, & the Toulouse coaches fucked up by going with the bigger cattle approach, when they started with a ~70kg advantage in the pack.

paddyor wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 3:45 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 3:53 pm Wrong incidents. The feed I had said RTE but your point is probably valid i.e. TMO has own feed so all the bluster about Fre broadcasters not showing replays should be irrelevant.

The thing about French broadcasters was they never showed replays at all where there might be a question about illegality. And sometimes refs can be influenced to go back and look at stuff due to whats on the big screen. And a French TV producer freely admitted this.

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 6:31 am What's this thing about our fans being nobs anyway. Where? On Facebook with all the other international nobs? Never saw it on PR and in fact we are too magnanimous and prone to following whatever trend like 'Dupont is actually the best player that ever lived with a head the same size as his torso'.

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 12:57 pm

PornDog wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 12:29 pm

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 12:23 pm


No one here is discussing it (the unfairness of it all) except you guys.

Biffer felt agrieved because he felt an Irish poster was taking offence at his reference to 'nuetral ground'. I explained why we're currently a bit sensitive about this and are pissed off at the bullshit narrative emanating from the English media - whether it exists on this forum or not is not exactly the point.

Okay, Biffer's post was misunderstood and the repeated references to "bleating" were from outwith this forum.

CM11 wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 2:22 pm

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 12:57 pm

PornDog wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 12:29 pm

Biffer felt agrieved because he felt an Irish poster was taking offence at his reference to 'nuetral ground'. I explained why we're currently a bit sensitive about this and are pissed off at the bullshit narrative emanating from the English media - whether it exists on this forum or not is not exactly the point.

Okay, Biffer's post was misunderstood and the repeated references to "bleating" were from outwith this forum.

Eh, no. Biffer misunderstood the post he initially got in a tizzy about.