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Kiwias wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:46 am

Biffer wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:40 am Jesus, hadn’t heard Rudy Giuliani’s thing about trial by combat from earlier today.

What is that?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 83428.html

Biffer wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:58 am

Kiwias wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:46 am

Biffer wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:40 am Jesus, hadn’t heard Rudy Giuliani’s thing about trial by combat from earlier today.

What is that?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 83428.html

He has totally lost it.

Matt Gaetz had all guns firing.

Have to say I’m a little entertained about all this political action going on live on TV and Trump is sitting in the whitehouse unable to tweet for twelve hours. He’ll be shouting at a lot of minions.

Biffer wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:14 am Have to say I’m a little entertained about all this political action going on live on TV and Trump is sitting in the whitehouse unable to tweet for twelve hours. He’ll be shouting at a lot of minions.

It is times like this that I'm glad he does not have a dog.

Biffer wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:58 am

Kiwias wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:46 am

Biffer wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:40 am Jesus, hadn’t heard Rudy Giuliani’s thing about trial by combat from earlier today.

What is that?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 83428.html

Rudy is willing to stake his and the orange shitgibbon’s reputation???

Kiwias wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:27 am

Biffer wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:14 am Have to say I’m a little entertained about all this political action going on live on TV and Trump is sitting in the whitehouse unable to tweet for twelve hours. He’ll be shouting at a lot of minions.

It is times like this that I'm glad he does not have a dog.

First President in a very long time not to have a dog.

Tells you all you need to know.

This is actually quite fascinating to watch.

Although that might be half a bottle of Aberfeldy malt talking.

Jesus, CNN is almost as bad as Fox on occasion. Don Lemon in particular is awful.

Biffer wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:44 am Jesus, CNN is almost as bad as Fox on occasion. Don Lemon in particular is awful.

I refuse to watch Lemon. Fox is actually broadcasting it without any commentary at all.

I hear there's talk of the African Union sending in peacekeepers and imposing sanction.

assfly wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:35 am I hear there's talk of the African Union sending in peacekeepers and imposing sanction.

Hong Kong wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:30 am

Biffer wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:58 am

Kiwias wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:46 am

What is that?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 83428.html

Rudy is willing to stake his and the orange shitgibbon’s reputation???

It’s just been revealed that Rudy fucked up again:

Rudy Giuliani yesterday evening committed another cell-phone slip-up, leaving a voice message apparently meant for freshman Republican Alabama senator Tommy Tuberville on someone else’s phone. The message has been published.

In the message, Giuliani encourages “Tuberville” to object to “every state” in order to prolong the current process. As demonstrated in the failed effort to object to the Michigan result, no objection in this process stands if it is not joined by a senator in writing.

Tuberville joined objections to both the Arizona and Pennsylvania results but not others. He must not have... gotten the message.

So even after the assault on the Capitol, Trump’s lieutenants are still trying to disrupt Biden’s election.

Christ, 4 protesters dead.

well most were fat Americans who died of heart attack possibly.. one was shot dead, she would still be alive today had she been at home in the kitchen as her lord and saviour Lord Shitgibbon had proclaimed..

Kiwias wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:09 am Matt Gaetz had all guns firing.

If he had them point blank to his own head he'd still miss

stemoc wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:50 am well most were fat Americans who died of heart attack possibly.. one was shot dead, she would still be alive today had she been at home in the kitchen as her lord and saviour Lord Shitgibbon had proclaimed..

Christ, I’d hate to hear what you thought of George Floyds death, if the above disdain is anything to go by.

He can't tweet it himself, because the stream of bile ,& hatred, & lies , has been temporarily stopped.

But it's not enough to just commit to something he should have done from the start; he has to admit the lie of election fraud.


If he won't; he has to be removed immediately !

fishfoodie wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:51 am

He can't tweet it himself, because the stream of bile ,& hatred, & lies , has been temporarily stopped.

But it's not enough to just commit to something he should have done from the start; he has to admit the lie of election fraud.


If he won't; he has to be removed immediately !

The Washington Post, and many others, are calling for his removal:

"The president is unfit to remain in office for the next 14 days. Every second he retains the vast powers of the presidency is a threat to public order and national security. Vice President Pence, who had to be whisked off the Senate floor for his own protection, should immediately gather the Cabinet to invoke the 25th Amendment, declaring that Mr. Trump is “unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.” Congress, which would be required to ratify the action if Mr. Trump resisted, should do so. Mr. Pence should serve until President-elect Joe Biden is inaugurated on Jan. 20."

Sounds shaken to me.

Lobby wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:56 am

fishfoodie wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:51 am

He can't tweet it himself, because the stream of bile ,& hatred, & lies , has been temporarily stopped.

But it's not enough to just commit to something he should have done from the start; he has to admit the lie of election fraud.


If he won't; he has to be removed immediately !

The Washington Post, and many others, are calling for his removal:

"The president is unfit to remain in office for the next 14 days. Every second he retains the vast powers of the presidency is a threat to public order and national security. Vice President Pence, who had to be whisked off the Senate floor for his own protection, should immediately gather the Cabinet to invoke the 25th Amendment, declaring that Mr. Trump is “unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.” Congress, which would be required to ratify the action if Mr. Trump resisted, should do so. Mr. Pence should serve until President-elect Joe Biden is inaugurated on Jan. 20."

It's in pretty much every newspaper & editorial column across the country

Ymx wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:44 am Christ, 4 insurrectionists dead.

FTFY. That it's not more says a lot about how certain groups get policed in the US.

fishfoodie wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:16 am

sockwithaticket wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:06 am

dpedin wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:57 am Trump 'Ship of Shit' sinking fast now. Rats are deserting the ship faster than the Blonde Bumblecunt makes a U turn. His staff are escaping WH and many now saying he is as mad as a hatter. Being called openly a narcissistic psychopath on CCN by democrats and Mitt Romney ... and no-one including Republicans disagrees. VP is running the ship, which is not reassuring. Tango Twat has flipped, gone loco, lost his marbles and is gone rogue. Goes on video thanking the nutters and giving them compliments, saying they did a good job.Serious discussion now about getting him out of office asap.Twitter banned him. The KKK, white militia, Nazi thugs and Proud Boys, etc gone away to get assault rifles and will kick off big style somewhere soon. Expecting more Town Halls to be invaded by thugs tomorrow. Washington DC going into full lock down from now until Biden is anointed. Congress meeting soon to resume certification of vote which will trigger Trump and his mob into even more violence.

Better late than never I guess?

Nope !

If they left after a few days maybe; but after that they are willing participants; just like
The hypocritical fuckers now deploring the violence they ignored until it threatened them.

Where were they when the scum said there were good people on both sides ?

I probably should have added a /s.

From the Beeb

Pottinger, said he was "dismayed by the attack on the Capitol and Trump's incitement of protesters

. It's the equivalent of crocodile tears, these people knew who they were working for, while they might not have anticipated the extent to which some of the bases have invested a cultist devotion into Trump, if they're genuinely surprised by this and by Mango Mussolini's egging it on, then they're too stupid to be anywhere near high level politics. They're not though, they're amoral chancers hoping they can dodge consequences of their actions.

The thing that gets me is why are some of these seemingly well educated folk in senior positions still supporting Trump after all this? For me it can only be because Trump has so much dirt on them and has been using it to ensure they did his bidding. They are more scared of what is going to come out than ruining their political ambitions. Ok - one or two might have been suckered into all the hype and one or two might want to take over the Trump mantle but I suspect the overwhelming majority are just shit scared of the man and what he is capable of. It will be really interesting to see what shit emerges over the next few weeks and months and you can bet your bottom dollar that Trump will try and drag them all down with him, he will have no problem in throwing a few to the wolves to save his own skin. Many will stick with him in the hope of a pardon but Trump wont save others and watch himself going down! The concrete wellies will be on everyone.

The even bigger question is who has what dirt on Trump? There will be the inevitable court cases, led by NY over his finances and alleged rape but once he is of no longer any use to possible 'foreign interests' then it will be interesting to see what they do with him. His handler Melania will have a big role here. He is obviously shitting himself big style and I don't think it is about tax avoidance, he has been there before and can stall that type of issue for years. I suspect the Steele dossier is probably pretty close to the truth - I look forward to the pee tapes suddenly appearing on YouTube!

It's an interesting point and I'd say there is also a part of me that actually wants some competent people working for morons like Trump. He's the president and is going to serve a 4 year term so there's an argument for having people doing what hey can.

Pottinger is an interesting case. He gets a very sympathetic write up in this excellent New Yorker piece on the pandemic

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021 ... lague-year

dpedin wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:30 am The thing that gets me is why are some of these seemingly well educated folk in senior positions still supporting Trump after all this? For me it can only be because Trump has so much dirt on them and has been using it to ensure they did his bidding. They are more scared of what is going to come out than ruining their political ambitions. Ok - one or two might have been suckered into all the hype and one or two might want to take over the Trump mantle but I suspect the overwhelming majority are just shit scared of the man and what he is capable of. It will be really interesting to see what shit emerges over the next few weeks and months and you can bet your bottom dollar that Trump will try and drag them all down with him, he will have no problem in throwing a few to the wolves to save his own skin. Many will stick with him in the hope of a pardon but Trump wont save others and watch himself going down! The concrete wellies will be on everyone.

The even bigger question is who has what dirt on Trump? There will be the inevitable court cases, led by NY over his finances and alleged rape but once he is of no longer any use to possible 'foreign interests' then it will be interesting to see what they do with him. His handler Melania will have a big role here. He is obviously shitting himself big style and I don't think it is about tax avoidance, he has been there before and can stall that type of issue for years. I suspect the Steele dossier is probably pretty close to the truth - I look forward to the pee tapes suddenly appearing on YouTube!

I think this is overthinking it. They just want to hold on to their cushy jobs and not go back to the real world. If they think Trump is the best way to get votes they will stick with him, if not, they won't. I don't think he has any particular cunning plan or dirt, he is just a cunt who has no problem destroying lives, careers and reputations.

Thank fuck Trump is such a moron.

If he wasn't completely brain dead he might have actually done some damage.

dpedin wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:30 am The thing that gets me is why are some of these seemingly well educated folk in senior positions still supporting Trump after all this? For me it can only be because Trump has so much dirt on them and has been using it to ensure they did his bidding. They are more scared of what is going to come out than ruining their political ambitions. Ok - one or two might have been suckered into all the hype and one or two might want to take over the Trump mantle but I suspect the overwhelming majority are just shit scared of the man and what he is capable of. It will be really interesting to see what shit emerges over the next few weeks and months and you can bet your bottom dollar that Trump will try and drag them all down with him, he will have no problem in throwing a few to the wolves to save his own skin. Many will stick with him in the hope of a pardon but Trump wont save others and watch himself going down! The concrete wellies will be on everyone.

A Republican Senator rang BBC and said that anyone who goes against Trump not only has their own career to worry about, but that of their family and even friends too. He's a vindictive cnut.

Rinkals wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:50 am Thank fuck Trump is such a moron.

If he wasn't completely brain dead he might have actually done some damage.

Ummm...is this a troll or have you mis-read the situation again?

Slick wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:49 am

dpedin wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:30 am The thing that gets me is why are some of these seemingly well educated folk in senior positions still supporting Trump after all this? For me it can only be because Trump has so much dirt on them and has been using it to ensure they did his bidding. They are more scared of what is going to come out than ruining their political ambitions. Ok - one or two might have been suckered into all the hype and one or two might want to take over the Trump mantle but I suspect the overwhelming majority are just shit scared of the man and what he is capable of. It will be really interesting to see what shit emerges over the next few weeks and months and you can bet your bottom dollar that Trump will try and drag them all down with him, he will have no problem in throwing a few to the wolves to save his own skin. Many will stick with him in the hope of a pardon but Trump wont save others and watch himself going down! The concrete wellies will be on everyone.

The even bigger question is who has what dirt on Trump? There will be the inevitable court cases, led by NY over his finances and alleged rape but once he is of no longer any use to possible 'foreign interests' then it will be interesting to see what they do with him. His handler Melania will have a big role here. He is obviously shitting himself big style and I don't think it is about tax avoidance, he has been there before and can stall that type of issue for years. I suspect the Steele dossier is probably pretty close to the truth - I look forward to the pee tapes suddenly appearing on YouTube!

I think this is overthinking it. They just want to hold on to their cushy jobs and not go back to the real world. If they think Trump is the best way to get votes they will stick with him, if not, they won't. I don't think he has any particular cunning plan or dirt, he is just a cunt who has no problem destroying lives, careers and reputations.

I tend to agree; for the GOP he represented an opportunity, a useful idiot.

Happlily, he will go down as the worst President in American history.

Unhappily, the long lasting notoriety might be just fine with him.

Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:25 am

Kiwias wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:09 am Matt Gaetz had all guns firing.

If he had them point blank to his own head he'd still miss

No matter how incompetent he is - there is no way he is missing that massive forehead from point blank range.

Sandstorm wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:52 am

Rinkals wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:50 am Thank fuck Trump is such a moron.

If he wasn't completely brain dead he might have actually done some damage.

Ummm...is this a troll or have you mis-read the situation again?

Irony?

fishfoodie wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:54 am I tend to agree; for the GOP he represented an opportunity, a useful idiot.

A useful idiot they thought they could just about keep on a leash, and misjudged the depth of his amoral unpredictably.

And even worse, for the sake of diplomatic expedience our own government has kowtowed to him.

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fishfoodie wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:54 am

Slick wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:49 am

dpedin wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:30 am The thing that gets me is why are some of these seemingly well educated folk in senior positions still supporting Trump after all this? For me it can only be because Trump has so much dirt on them and has been using it to ensure they did his bidding. They are more scared of what is going to come out than ruining their political ambitions. Ok - one or two might have been suckered into all the hype and one or two might want to take over the Trump mantle but I suspect the overwhelming majority are just shit scared of the man and what he is capable of. It will be really interesting to see what shit emerges over the next few weeks and months and you can bet your bottom dollar that Trump will try and drag them all down with him, he will have no problem in throwing a few to the wolves to save his own skin. Many will stick with him in the hope of a pardon but Trump wont save others and watch himself going down! The concrete wellies will be on everyone.

The even bigger question is who has what dirt on Trump? There will be the inevitable court cases, led by NY over his finances and alleged rape but once he is of no longer any use to possible 'foreign interests' then it will be interesting to see what they do with him. His handler Melania will have a big role here. He is obviously shitting himself big style and I don't think it is about tax avoidance, he has been there before and can stall that type of issue for years. I suspect the Steele dossier is probably pretty close to the truth - I look forward to the pee tapes suddenly appearing on YouTube!

I think this is overthinking it. They just want to hold on to their cushy jobs and not go back to the real world. If they think Trump is the best way to get votes they will stick with him, if not, they won't. I don't think he has any particular cunning plan or dirt, he is just a cunt who has no problem destroying lives, careers and reputations.

I tend to agree; for the GOP he represented an opportunity, a useful idiot.

I think it’s more a question of them seeing the fan base of the orange shitgibbon and not wanting to alienate them, agree to support him to ensure the dullards follow the GOP candidate in 2024

I think we had a robust discussion on this a few months ago, when I pointed out that the Tea Party takeover of the GOP had led to this. Insane, anti-reason, anti-intellectual, xenophobic, populist nightmares were suddenly mainstream in the GOP.

JM2K6 wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:04 am I think we had a robust discussion on this a few months ago, when I pointed out that the Tea Party takeover of the GOP had led to this. Insane, anti-reason, anti-intellectual, xenophobic, populist nightmares were suddenly mainstream in the GOP.

Yep and his fan base love him for it

I wonder if it dawned on the Republicans in the Chamber that the mob might not have been too fussy about who was who if it bullets had started flying at them.

Slick wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:56 am Happlily, he will go down as the worst President in American history.

Unhappily, the long lasting notoriety might be just fine with him.

Not according to him..

"Even though I totally disagree with the outcome of the election, and the facts bear me out, nevertheless there will be an orderly transition on January 20th," Trump said in the statement released overnight after Congress certified his defeat. "I have always said we would continue our fight to ensure that only legal votes were counted. While this represents the end of the greatest first term in presidential history, it's only the beginning of our fight to Make America Great Again."

There's 3 tiers of elected Republicans as far as I can tell.

Genuine loons who reject science, reason and reality.

Those happy to ride Trump's coat tails and willing to say or do whatever in the process because they don't give a shit about anything except retaining their seat.

The ones who think of him as useful idiot for their personal and donor enrichment ventures.

I supposes there's a 4th tier of one or two individuals who might actually have some principles, but they're negligible.


As for competent staffers and such... most of those are long gone aren't they? The ones still hanging around know who and what they're dealing with and either don't care so long as they've got a job or are still telling themselves lies about it being necessary to support the office.