The Brexit Thread

[I like neeps]

It’s slight tangent, but I’m very much enjoying the descriptions of Neil Oliver I’m seeing tonight

Conspiracy Gandalf
The Wish version of Charles Manson
McGonigall for the cable news era
Rubber bonsed middle aisle at Aldi fascist

It's funny I saw he was saying cashless payment is the state surveilling you. He's right cashless payment is surveillance but the state has nothing to do with it it's the corporations. And he right that the UK govt is trying to take away rights of citizens, this thread and brexit as a whole is full of examples of that.

[Biffer]

It’s slight tangent, but I’m very much enjoying the descriptions of Neil Oliver I’m seeing tonight

Conspiracy Gandalf
The Wish version of Charles Manson
McGonigall for the cable news era
Rubber bonsed middle aisle at Aldi fascist

It's funny I saw he was saying cashless payment is the state surveilling you. He's right cashless payment is surveillance but the state has nothing to do with it it's the corporations. And he right that the UK govt is trying to take away rights of citizens, this thread and brexit as a whole is full of examples of that.

A stopped clock is right occasionally. He's a pompous dick who's so full of himself he looks like he's on steroids

[tabascoboy]

[redderneck]

The FTA has one important stipulation, buried in the appendices. Ian Foster to remain as ABs coach through the next two RWC cycles. The Brits are no mugs.

[I like neeps]

It’s slight tangent, but I’m very much enjoying the descriptions of Neil Oliver I’m seeing tonight

Conspiracy Gandalf
The Wish version of Charles Manson
McGonigall for the cable news era
Rubber bonsed middle aisle at Aldi fascist

It's funny I saw he was saying cashless payment is the state surveilling you. He's right cashless payment is surveillance but the state has nothing to do with it it's the corporations. And he right that the UK govt is trying to take away rights of citizens, this thread and brexit as a whole is full of examples of that.

A stopped clock is right occasionally. He's a pompous dick who's so full of himself he looks like he's on steroids

Sure he is. But even the cranks occasionally get things right. Think of how much data your bank, card acquirer has on you. It's frightening really. The governments of the world don't have anything to do with it of course so he is wrong about that.

[tc27]

Pretty biased PoV - I mean the actual major implication is cheaper food for British consumers.

[tabascoboy]

Pretty biased PoV - I mean the actual major implication is cheaper food for British consumers.

To be fair, have to keep those food banks supplied somehow, since ever more people have to rely on them

[fishfoodie]

Pretty biased PoV - I mean the actual major implication is cheaper food for British consumers.

That's a very large assumption !

The UK Farmers, like everywhere, get screwed by the Supermarkets, over the price paid for their produce. What'll probably happen is the supermarket will just merge the NZ/Ozzie food into their existing supply chains, & they'll cut out the UK suppliers, & they'll pocket the higher margins.

Oh, & the Exchequer will lose out on the Tariffs they would have previously collected on this food, so these Trade deals will effectively funnel public money to private businesses, & the public will get lower standard, higher food mile, food; & UK Farmers, will go bust, or drop their standards too.

[fishfoodie]

This is the intellectually ability of the DUP; a significant increase in exports, & trade, is a disaster, & must be stopped, even if that means breaking International law, & triggering a trade war !

Brexit: Soaring cross-border trade shows need for Article 16, says DUP’s Sammy Wilson

Soaring trade between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland shows that the conditions for triggering Article 16 have been met, DUP MP Sammy Wilson has said.

Article 16 is a safeguard mechanism built into the post-Brexit trading arrangement known as the Northern Ireland Protocol that allows either the UK or EU to suspend parts of the deal.

One of the conditions required before triggering Article 16 of the deal is “diversion of trade”.

Mr Wilson said new statistics, from the Republic of Ireland’s Central Statistics Office (CSO), showing a substantial increase in the value of trade across the Irish border indicates that trade between Northern Ireland and Great Britain has likely been “displaced”.

According to the CSO data, exports from Northern Ireland to the Republic of Ireland for January to June 2022 increased by 413 million euro to 2.3 billion euro when compared with the same time period of 2021.

What a fucking moron

https://www.newsletter.co.uk/business/b ... on-3806826

[Insane_Homer]

[Hal Jordan]

Tory MPs on Twitter are getting ratioed into the far distance over shit on the beaches.

They throw up a "This is an outrage!" Tweet and immediately get reminded by all and sundry, human and bot alike, that they voted to allow this.

Who runs their social media? Chimps?

[fishfoodie]

Tory MPs on Twitter are getting ratioed into the far distance over shit on the beaches.

They throw up a "This is an outrage!" Tweet and immediately get reminded by all and sundry, human and bot alike, that they voted to allow this.

Who runs their social media? Chimps?

Princes Nut Nut ?

[dpedin]

Tory MPs on Twitter are getting ratioed into the far distance over shit on the beaches.

They throw up a "This is an outrage!" Tweet and immediately get reminded by all and sundry, human and bot alike, that they voted to allow this.

Who runs their social media? Chimps?

Princes Nut Nut ?

That beanpole of piss JRM?

[fishfoodie]

Now what could have happened to cause massive increase ????

Huge increase in raw sewage released into UK waterways and sea, data reveals

The figure is an increase of 2,553% over five years, according to the Labour Party's analysis of Environment Agency (EA) data, released under the Freedom of Information Act.

https://news.sky.com/story/huge-increas ... s-12677730

[petej]

Now what could have happened to cause massive increase ????

Huge increase in raw sewage released into UK waterways and sea, data reveals

The figure is an increase of 2,553% over five years, according to the Labour Party's analysis of Environment Agency (EA) data, released under the Freedom of Information Act.

https://news.sky.com/story/huge-increas ... s-12677730

A genuine brexit benefit.

[tabascoboy]

Guess some really dislike being called out...

[tabascoboy]

Oh and now #TurdReich is trending...

[tabascoboy]

[Insane_Homer]

[I like neeps]

He's not opening new stores because of the energy prices. You don't even need to read the article to see that ffs it says in the title!

[ia801310]

Don't know if this is a Brexit issue. Over the last few years the New York Times has been publishing Anti British articles, apparently this is to appeal to the FBPE crowd and hopefully make them subscribers/followers. It appears to have gotten worse since the Queen died.

The fence sums it up well.

[tabascoboy]

[petej]

Don't know if this is a Brexit issue. Over the last few years the New York Times has been publishing Anti British articles, apparently this is to appeal to the FBPE crowd and hopefully make them subscribers/followers. It appears to have gotten worse since the Queen died.

The fence sums it up well.

I'd say is because Britain has weakened a US western ally which for some unknown reason *cough pisstapes the republicans are cool with

They've not attacked Britain. They have mostly just pointed the ineptitude of our elite. Pointing out the failings of our elite according to many particularly those who read certain publications means you hate or are anti-British. You can also hate Britain by looking at the history of certain British elite families and pointing out the shitty things they were involved in.

[fishfoodie]

Brewery hailed as a Brexit export champion calls in administrators

A Kent brewery that the government proclaimed as an export champion after Brexit, is racing to find a buyer weeks after it revealed it had only one EU customer left.

Old Dairy Brewery, which appeared in a promotional video by the Department for International Trade last year to showcase post-Brexit opportunities, has filed notice of its intention to appoint administrators, in an effort to fend off creditors while it tries to find a buyer.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brew ... -qkw6d7djf

[Insane_Homer]

Oh...

[dpedin]

Oh...

Ain't no growth without better access to EU market, resolved NI Protocol and better trading relationships with US. Looks like the tories, having created huge amounts of economic and social deficits, have eventually figured this out? Twats!

[fishfoodie]

I hope the Tories are planning on giving UK workers more annual leave, because anyone planning on leaving thru Dover on those busiest weekends, will need the extra few days to spend queueing in Kent !

Port of Dover fears ‘significant and continued disruption’ from EU Entry-Exit system

Port’s CEO Doug Bannister warns MPs that checkpoint times for motorists leaving the UK could increase seven-fold

The Port of Dover boss has warned that the new EU entry-exit system could cause “significant and continued disruption for a very long time”.

Doug Bannister, chief executive of the UK’s busiest ferry port, told MPs at Wednesday’s transport select committee meeting that seven months before the proposed introduction of new biometric checks, the port does not know the rules and procedures that will apply.

The Brexit withdrawal agreement made the UK a “third country” with strict controls on entry and exit. At Dover, frontier controls are “juxtaposed” with French officials conducting checks on British soil.

At the start of the main summer peak in July, long queues built up due to the need to stamp every passport and, said Mr Bannister, the delayed arrival of some Police aux Frontières officers from France.

Next summer, tougher border checks that the UK helped develop while a member will apply to British passport holders.

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“What we have heard is that it could be two minutes per person to register, plus two minutes for the car, so that’s 10 minutes for a car full of four people,” he said.

“If it comes in, in the worst possible way, in the way that we fear, it’s going to have significant and continued disruption for a very long time.

“For next summer’s getaway, we’re in a whole new ball game.

“If the border gets sticky, it backs up very, very quickly.”

Huw Merriman, the senior Tory MP who is the committee chair, asked: “So there’s seven months to go and you still don’t know what the rules of the road going to be in terms of what you need to do and what passengers need to do to comply with this?”

“Correct,” said Mr Bannister.

Mr Merriman described the situation as “completely bizarre and unacceptable”.

https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/ne ... 01037.html

[The sun god]

The gift that keeps on giving !!!

[fishfoodie]

If you want to see how badly Brexit has fucked SMEs exports, you need to look at media outside the UK.

Ireland “stands out” as having had a particularly large reduction in imports from the UK due to Brexit, while Irish exports to the region have suffered no notable impact, according to new research by the Economic and Social Research Institute (ESRI)

The research suggests there has been a 16 per cent reduction in goods traded from the UK to the EU, while trade from the EU to UK is down by 20 per cent relative to the scenario in which Brexit had not occurred.

Under that scenario, trade with the UK should have been expected to grow at a similar pace to that of the same products being traded with other EU partner countries around the world.

While goods traded between the EU and UK recovered most of their previous level in value terms following the sharp fall in the early months of 2021, it is still well below the levels that would have been expected if it had performed on a comparable level with other trade partners.
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The research also looked across EU member states using this hybrid data approach and found that Brexit has led to a significant decline in trade with the UK in almost all cases although by varying magnitudes.

For most countries across the EU, the size of the impact is broadly similar for both export and imports.

However, Ireland “stands out” as having had a particularly large reduction in imports from the UK relative to its other international trade patterns.

Exports from Ireland to the UK, on the other hand, continue to perform in line with those of other markets with no notable impact to date of Brexit on the total levels traded.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/eco ... sri-finds/

And if you're thinking; so what, we don't need Ireland, we have new trade deals with Oz, & that other place down there, with the Elves .... look at where most of your exports go.

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kin ... by-country

"They need us, more than we need them"

[The sun god]

I had to put my cursor on the untitled boxes in that diagram to find out the value of exports to the land of the long white cloud..... a whopping 0.26%..... But Truss was delighted so I guess it's all good.

[The sun god]

That was one of the Brexit wanks Patterson who started that shite. Said something stupid like trade wrh Ireland was tiny when he was looking at the trade from NI rather than the whole of the UK. The export figure was of course much higher pre Brexit

Bunch of either complete idiots or corrupt bastards. Your guess as good as mine.

[dpedin]

[Insane_Homer]

Taking back Control!!!

[dpedin]

Although car production is falling world wide the UK seems particularly hard hit since 2016 - I wonder why?

[dpedin]

Read thread .... this is where our lack of growth has gone!

[dpedin]

More Brexiteers rowing back from Brexit! This was not the Brexit I wanted says prominent Brexiteer Lord Wolfson as his company suffers from the Brexit he voted for. Why can't they just say we fecked up and we are sorry?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63573988

[sturginho]

Brexit isnt bad, it just hasn't been done properly!

[Hal Jordan]

More Brexiteers rowing back from Brexit! This was not the Brexit I wanted says prominent Brexiteer Lord Wolfson as his company suffers from the Brexit he voted for. Why can't they just say we fecked up and we are sorry?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63573988

Sunk cost fallacy, or genuine true believer fervour.

[Mahoney]

Although car production is falling world wide the UK seems particularly hard hit since 2016 - I wonder why?

That’s a dreadful graph:

• Y index not going to 0
• No context prior to 2016 - is this a new trend?
• No comparator - what’s been happening in other car producing nations?

Perhaps the trend is new from 2016, significant, and unique to the UK, but that graph does not show it.

[dpedin]

Although car production is falling world wide the UK seems particularly hard hit since 2016 - I wonder why?

That’s a dreadful graph:

• Y index not going to 0
• No context prior to 2016 - is this a new trend?
• No comparator - what’s been happening in other car producing nations?

Perhaps the trend is new from 2016, significant, and unique to the UK, but that graph does not show it.

Don't disagree about the index not going to 0 - contact SMMT to criticise. Although this impacts on the visual interpretation of the graph it doesn't negate the figure provided.

As I said in my post car production fell world wide since 2016 but for wider context in EU it fell by 33% in the UK it has fallen 56% since the same date. Whilst the implication is that this is related to Brexit decision and impact on car manufacturing in UK it is also true that correlation does not imply causation. However .....

I would humbly suggest that the 6 years of data begins to suggests this is a trend.