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Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:25 am
by I like neeps
Biffer wrote: Sun Aug 14, 2022 1:13 am It’s slight tangent, but I’m very much enjoying the descriptions of Neil Oliver I’m seeing tonight

Conspiracy Gandalf
The Wish version of Charles Manson
McGonigall for the cable news era
Rubber bonsed middle aisle at Aldi fascist
It's funny I saw he was saying cashless payment is the state surveilling you. He's right cashless payment is surveillance but the state has nothing to do with it it's the corporations. And he right that the UK govt is trying to take away rights of citizens, this thread and brexit as a whole is full of examples of that.

Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:35 pm
by Biffer
I like neeps wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:25 am
Biffer wrote: Sun Aug 14, 2022 1:13 am It’s slight tangent, but I’m very much enjoying the descriptions of Neil Oliver I’m seeing tonight

Conspiracy Gandalf
The Wish version of Charles Manson
McGonigall for the cable news era
Rubber bonsed middle aisle at Aldi fascist
It's funny I saw he was saying cashless payment is the state surveilling you. He's right cashless payment is surveillance but the state has nothing to do with it it's the corporations. And he right that the UK govt is trying to take away rights of citizens, this thread and brexit as a whole is full of examples of that.
A stopped clock is right occasionally. He's a pompous dick who's so full of himself he looks like he's on steroids

Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:15 am
by tabascoboy

Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:39 am
by redderneck
The FTA has one important stipulation, buried in the appendices. Ian Foster to remain as ABs coach through the next two RWC cycles. The Brits are no mugs.

Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:53 am
by I like neeps
Biffer wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:35 pm
I like neeps wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:25 am
Biffer wrote: Sun Aug 14, 2022 1:13 am It’s slight tangent, but I’m very much enjoying the descriptions of Neil Oliver I’m seeing tonight

Conspiracy Gandalf
The Wish version of Charles Manson
McGonigall for the cable news era
Rubber bonsed middle aisle at Aldi fascist
It's funny I saw he was saying cashless payment is the state surveilling you. He's right cashless payment is surveillance but the state has nothing to do with it it's the corporations. And he right that the UK govt is trying to take away rights of citizens, this thread and brexit as a whole is full of examples of that.
A stopped clock is right occasionally. He's a pompous dick who's so full of himself he looks like he's on steroids
Sure he is. But even the cranks occasionally get things right. Think of how much data your bank, card acquirer has on you. It's frightening really. The governments of the world don't have anything to do with it of course so he is wrong about that.

Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:41 am
by tc27
tabascoboy wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:15 am
Pretty biased PoV - I mean the actual major implication is cheaper food for British consumers.

Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:21 am
by tabascoboy
tc27 wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:41 am
tabascoboy wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:15 am
Pretty biased PoV - I mean the actual major implication is cheaper food for British consumers.
To be fair, have to keep those food banks supplied somehow, since ever more people have to rely on them


Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:08 pm
by fishfoodie
tc27 wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:41 am
Pretty biased PoV - I mean the actual major implication is cheaper food for British consumers.
That's a very large assumption !

The UK Farmers, like everywhere, get screwed by the Supermarkets, over the price paid for their produce. What'll probably happen is the supermarket will just merge the NZ/Ozzie food into their existing supply chains, & they'll cut out the UK suppliers, & they'll pocket the higher margins.

Oh, & the Exchequer will lose out on the Tariffs they would have previously collected on this food, so these Trade deals will effectively funnel public money to private businesses, & the public will get lower standard, higher food mile, food; & UK Farmers, will go bust, or drop their standards too.

Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:12 pm
by fishfoodie
This is the intellectually ability of the DUP; a significant increase in exports, & trade, is a disaster, & must be stopped, even if that means breaking International law, & triggering a trade war !
Brexit: Soaring cross-border trade shows need for Article 16, says DUP’s Sammy Wilson

Soaring trade between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland shows that the conditions for triggering Article 16 have been met, DUP MP Sammy Wilson has said.

Article 16 is a safeguard mechanism built into the post-Brexit trading arrangement known as the Northern Ireland Protocol that allows either the UK or EU to suspend parts of the deal.

One of the conditions required before triggering Article 16 of the deal is “diversion of trade”.

Mr Wilson said new statistics, from the Republic of Ireland’s Central Statistics Office (CSO), showing a substantial increase in the value of trade across the Irish border indicates that trade between Northern Ireland and Great Britain has likely been “displaced”.

According to the CSO data, exports from Northern Ireland to the Republic of Ireland for January to June 2022 increased by 413 million euro to 2.3 billion euro when compared with the same time period of 2021.
What a fucking moron :roll:

https://www.newsletter.co.uk/business/b ... on-3806826

Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:27 am
by Insane_Homer
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Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:03 am
by Hal Jordan
Tory MPs on Twitter are getting ratioed into the far distance over shit on the beaches.

They throw up a "This is an outrage!" Tweet and immediately get reminded by all and sundry, human and bot alike, that they voted to allow this.

Who runs their social media? Chimps?

Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:47 am
by fishfoodie
Hal Jordan wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:03 am Tory MPs on Twitter are getting ratioed into the far distance over shit on the beaches.

They throw up a "This is an outrage!" Tweet and immediately get reminded by all and sundry, human and bot alike, that they voted to allow this.

Who runs their social media? Chimps?
Princes Nut Nut ?

Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:03 am
by dpedin
fishfoodie wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:47 am
Hal Jordan wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:03 am Tory MPs on Twitter are getting ratioed into the far distance over shit on the beaches.

They throw up a "This is an outrage!" Tweet and immediately get reminded by all and sundry, human and bot alike, that they voted to allow this.

Who runs their social media? Chimps?
Princes Nut Nut ?
That beanpole of piss JRM?

Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:27 pm
by fishfoodie
Insane_Homer wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:27 am Image
Now what could have happened to cause massive increase ????
Huge increase in raw sewage released into UK waterways and sea, data reveals

The figure is an increase of 2,553% over five years, according to the Labour Party's analysis of Environment Agency (EA) data, released under the Freedom of Information Act.
https://news.sky.com/story/huge-increas ... s-12677730

Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 6:36 pm
by petej
fishfoodie wrote: Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:27 pm
Insane_Homer wrote: Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:27 am Image
Now what could have happened to cause massive increase ????
Huge increase in raw sewage released into UK waterways and sea, data reveals

The figure is an increase of 2,553% over five years, according to the Labour Party's analysis of Environment Agency (EA) data, released under the Freedom of Information Act.
https://news.sky.com/story/huge-increas ... s-12677730
A genuine brexit benefit.

Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:31 pm
by tabascoboy
Guess some really dislike being called out...


Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:03 pm
by tabascoboy
Oh and now #TurdReich is trending...

Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:49 am
by tabascoboy



Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:58 am
by Insane_Homer


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Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 7:46 am
by I like neeps
Insane_Homer wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 6:58 am

:problem:
He's not opening new stores because of the energy prices. You don't even need to read the article to see that ffs it says in the title!

Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:47 am
by ia801310
Don't know if this is a Brexit issue. Over the last few years the New York Times has been publishing Anti British articles, apparently this is to appeal to the FBPE crowd and hopefully make them subscribers/followers. It appears to have gotten worse since the Queen died.

The fence sums it up well.


Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 9:42 am
by tabascoboy

Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:23 pm
by petej
EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:18 pm
ia801310 wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:47 am Don't know if this is a Brexit issue. Over the last few years the New York Times has been publishing Anti British articles, apparently this is to appeal to the FBPE crowd and hopefully make them subscribers/followers. It appears to have gotten worse since the Queen died.

The fence sums it up well.

I'd say is because Britain has weakened a US western ally which for some unknown reason *cough pisstapes the republicans are cool with
They've not attacked Britain. They have mostly just pointed the ineptitude of our elite. Pointing out the failings of our elite according to many particularly those who read certain publications means you hate or are anti-British. You can also hate Britain by looking at the history of certain British elite families and pointing out the shitty things they were involved in.

Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2022 1:18 pm
by fishfoodie
Brewery hailed as a Brexit export champion calls in administrators

A Kent brewery that the government proclaimed as an export champion after Brexit, is racing to find a buyer weeks after it revealed it had only one EU customer left.

Old Dairy Brewery, which appeared in a promotional video by the Department for International Trade last year to showcase post-Brexit opportunities, has filed notice of its intention to appoint administrators, in an effort to fend off creditors while it tries to find a buyer.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brew ... -qkw6d7djf

Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:43 pm
by Insane_Homer
Oh...


Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:58 pm
by dpedin
Insane_Homer wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:43 pm Oh...

Ain't no growth without better access to EU market, resolved NI Protocol and better trading relationships with US. Looks like the tories, having created huge amounts of economic and social deficits, have eventually figured this out? Twats!

Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:35 pm
by fishfoodie
I hope the Tories are planning on giving UK workers more annual leave, because anyone planning on leaving thru Dover on those busiest weekends, will need the extra few days to spend queueing in Kent !
Port of Dover fears ‘significant and continued disruption’ from EU Entry-Exit system

Port’s CEO Doug Bannister warns MPs that checkpoint times for motorists leaving the UK could increase seven-fold

The Port of Dover boss has warned that the new EU entry-exit system could cause “significant and continued disruption for a very long time”.

Doug Bannister, chief executive of the UK’s busiest ferry port, told MPs at Wednesday’s transport select committee meeting that seven months before the proposed introduction of new biometric checks, the port does not know the rules and procedures that will apply.

The Brexit withdrawal agreement made the UK a “third country” with strict controls on entry and exit. At Dover, frontier controls are “juxtaposed” with French officials conducting checks on British soil.

At the start of the main summer peak in July, long queues built up due to the need to stamp every passport and, said Mr Bannister, the delayed arrival of some Police aux Frontières officers from France.

Next summer, tougher border checks that the UK helped develop while a member will apply to British passport holders.

....

“What we have heard is that it could be two minutes per person to register, plus two minutes for the car, so that’s 10 minutes for a car full of four people,” he said.

“If it comes in, in the worst possible way, in the way that we fear, it’s going to have significant and continued disruption for a very long time.

“For next summer’s getaway, we’re in a whole new ball game.

“If the border gets sticky, it backs up very, very quickly.”

Huw Merriman, the senior Tory MP who is the committee chair, asked: “So there’s seven months to go and you still don’t know what the rules of the road going to be in terms of what you need to do and what passengers need to do to comply with this?”

“Correct,” said Mr Bannister.

Mr Merriman described the situation as “completely bizarre and unacceptable”.


https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/ne ... 01037.html

Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:36 am
by The sun god
The gift that keeps on giving !!!

Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:32 am
by fishfoodie
If you want to see how badly Brexit has fucked SMEs exports, you need to look at media outside the UK.
Ireland “stands out” as having had a particularly large reduction in imports from the UK due to Brexit, while Irish exports to the region have suffered no notable impact, according to new research by the Economic and Social Research Institute (ESRI)

The research suggests there has been a 16 per cent reduction in goods traded from the UK to the EU, while trade from the EU to UK is down by 20 per cent relative to the scenario in which Brexit had not occurred.

Under that scenario, trade with the UK should have been expected to grow at a similar pace to that of the same products being traded with other EU partner countries around the world.

While goods traded between the EU and UK recovered most of their previous level in value terms following the sharp fall in the early months of 2021, it is still well below the levels that would have been expected if it had performed on a comparable level with other trade partners.
....

The research also looked across EU member states using this hybrid data approach and found that Brexit has led to a significant decline in trade with the UK in almost all cases although by varying magnitudes.

For most countries across the EU, the size of the impact is broadly similar for both export and imports.

However, Ireland “stands out” as having had a particularly large reduction in imports from the UK relative to its other international trade patterns.

Exports from Ireland to the UK, on the other hand, continue to perform in line with those of other markets with no notable impact to date of Brexit on the total levels traded.
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/eco ... sri-finds/

And if you're thinking; so what, we don't need Ireland, we have new trade deals with Oz, & that other place down there, with the Elves .... look at where most of your exports go.

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kin ... by-country

"They need us, more than we need them"

Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:45 am
by The sun god
I had to put my cursor on the untitled boxes in that diagram to find out the value of exports to the land of the long white cloud..... a whopping 0.26%..... But Truss was delighted so I guess it's all good.

Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:01 am
by The sun god
EnergiseR2 wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 7:24 am That was one of the Brexit wanks Patterson who started that shite. Said something stupid like trade wrh Ireland was tiny when he was looking at the trade from NI rather than the whole of the UK. The export figure was of course much higher pre Brexit
Bunch of either complete idiots or corrupt bastards. Your guess as good as mine.

Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:04 pm
by dpedin

Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 1:27 pm
by Insane_Homer
Taking back Control!!!


Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 1:24 pm
by dpedin
Although car production is falling world wide the UK seems particularly hard hit since 2016 - I wonder why?


Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 9:53 pm
by dpedin


Read thread .... this is where our lack of growth has gone!

Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:43 am
by dpedin
More Brexiteers rowing back from Brexit! This was not the Brexit I wanted says prominent Brexiteer Lord Wolfson as his company suffers from the Brexit he voted for. Why can't they just say we fecked up and we are sorry?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63573988

Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 2:13 pm
by sturginho
Brexit isnt bad, it just hasn't been done properly!

Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 3:50 pm
by Hal Jordan
dpedin wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:43 am More Brexiteers rowing back from Brexit! This was not the Brexit I wanted says prominent Brexiteer Lord Wolfson as his company suffers from the Brexit he voted for. Why can't they just say we fecked up and we are sorry?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63573988
Sunk cost fallacy, or genuine true believer fervour.

Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 8:49 am
by Mahoney
dpedin wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 1:24 pm Although car production is falling world wide the UK seems particularly hard hit since 2016 - I wonder why?

That’s a dreadful graph:
  • Y index not going to 0
  • No context prior to 2016 - is this a new trend?
  • No comparator - what’s been happening in other car producing nations?
Perhaps the trend is new from 2016, significant, and unique to the UK, but that graph does not show it.

Re: The Brexit Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 10:43 am
by dpedin
Mahoney wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 8:49 am
dpedin wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 1:24 pm Although car production is falling world wide the UK seems particularly hard hit since 2016 - I wonder why?

That’s a dreadful graph:
  • Y index not going to 0
  • No context prior to 2016 - is this a new trend?
  • No comparator - what’s been happening in other car producing nations?
Perhaps the trend is new from 2016, significant, and unique to the UK, but that graph does not show it.
Don't disagree about the index not going to 0 - contact SMMT to criticise. Although this impacts on the visual interpretation of the graph it doesn't negate the figure provided.

As I said in my post car production fell world wide since 2016 but for wider context in EU it fell by 33% in the UK it has fallen 56% since the same date. Whilst the implication is that this is related to Brexit decision and impact on car manufacturing in UK it is also true that correlation does not imply causation. However .....

I would humbly suggest that the 6 years of data begins to suggests this is a trend.